Pretty close to safe in baseball means an out. This wasn't running home, the ball wasn't hit that deep, nor too much in the gap. There was no reason to turn and waste an out like that. He has done this continuously...has it ever paid off?

He was trying to get in scoring position. Not the brightest move, but again, it was wet, it isn't like the Sox were playing for a divison title...if he was safe, just like the time Eaton came home when he should have been out a mile, people would have praised his aggressiveness. And there is always a possibility he learned something.

What was most annoying was that he tried to get Robin to come out and challenge it.

 

I want people to remember that the next time they say Robin should have just "trusted his veteran" on that Alexei debacle in Detroit. Players are often wrong.

He was trying to get in scoring position. Not the brightest move, but again, it was wet, it isn't like the Sox were playing for a divison title...if he was safe, just like the time Eaton came home when he should have been out a mile, people would have praised his aggressiveness. And there is always a possibility he learned something.

 

Yes, stupid plays are often less stupid when they work. But this isn't rickey henderson, he keeps failing at this on a team that isn't good offensively. We should stop praising his aggressiveness when he just keeps eliminating himself from the basepaths and creating outs.

What was most annoying was that he tried to get Robin to come out and challenge it.

 

I want people to remember that the next time they say Robin should have just "trusted his veteran" on that Alexei debacle in Detroit. Players are often wrong.

 

Robin should have challenged that because he should be aware of what is happening in a baseball game. Doesn't mean he should have challenged this one. Surprisingly, two things can be similar (player asks to challenge) but be different (completely different scenarios and plays). On the same token, every day I wake up and go to bed, but much of the time the day is different!

Robin should have challenged that because he should be aware of what is happening in a baseball game. Doesn't mean he should have challenged this one. Surprisingly, two things can be similar (player asks to challenge) but be different (completely different scenarios and plays). On the same token, every day I wake up and go to bed, but much of the time the day is different!

The umpires wouldn't even look at it.

The umpires wouldn't even look at it.

 

Good. He had already challenged the previous inning.

Robin should have challenged that because he should be aware of what is happening in a baseball game. Doesn't mean he should have challenged this one. Surprisingly, two things can be similar (player asks to challenge) but be different (completely different scenarios and plays). On the same token, every day I wake up and go to bed, but much of the time the day is different!

I'm not even referring to whether he should have challenged the play in Detroit. I'm talking specifically about people using "because the player said he should challenge" as a reason he should challenge. It should never be a reason, or only ever a minor consideration at most.

I will say seeing it live I was shocked that Reyes had his foot on bag in 7th. Live it seemed like he caught it way off, and he was very out.

I will say seeing it live I was shocked that Reyes had his foot on bag in 7th. Live it seemed like he caught it way off, and he was very out.

 

Same here. I yelled at my TV live.

I'm not even referring to whether he should have challenged the play in Detroit. I'm talking specifically about people using "because the player said he should challenge" as a reason he should challenge. It should never be a reason, or only ever a minor consideration at most.

That's why they have guys specifically looking at replays.

 

Generally, 99.99% of the time, a runner knows if he is out or safe on the throw to 1B, anyone who ever complains when they are called out on a groundball in the infield and replay confirms it, was just putting on a show. Tags are different. Avi looked like he was out a mile, but the replay showed it to be pretty close.