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Twins @ White Sox, 9/13/15

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Another game thread. Maybe we can take this series.

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let us strive mightily to smite those two-headed Twinkies

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Let's go Sale!!!!!!

Sale doesn't deserve many Cy Young votes. Very disappointing season for him.

What is his ERA this year in games he's pitched in besides the Twins?

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QUOTE (Mike F. @ Sep 13, 2015 -> 02:28 PM)
What is his ERA this year in games he's pitched in besides the Twins?

As of right now. 7.84 against the Twins, 2.62 against everyoen else.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 13, 2015 -> 01:31 PM)
As of right now. 7.84 against the Twins, 2.62 against everyoen else.

He'd be the Cy Young front runner if he didn't have to face the Twins...dammit.

 

I'm serious when I say that they should never have him face the Twins again. He's always awful against them.

Sale imploding against the Twins again?

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QUOTE (pettie4sox @ Sep 13, 2015 -> 02:37 PM)
Sale imploding against the Twins again?

Yes, already 4-0, just going to enjoy the Bears actually having a 2nd half shot against GB for now.

Eaton is very unlikable.

wow, ERA over 3.5 right now. Time to give him some extra rest the next few weeks. Also, how about trying a new catcher with him?

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Hahn should just walk out there and relieve Ventura and Cooper of their duties right now.

 

Thompson should play center

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QUOTE (GreenSox @ Sep 13, 2015 -> 07:00 PM)
Hahn should just walk out there and relieve Ventura and Cooper of their duties right now.

 

Cooper's done a great job with Sale and Samardzija this year....:(

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QUOTE (GreenSox @ Sep 13, 2015 -> 03:00 PM)
Hahn should just walk out there and relieve Ventura and Cooper of their duties right now.

The one thing we know for certain is that this roster can't be Rick Hahn's fault.

I would really like to see Sale paired up with Soto in his next start just to see what happens.

 

A pitcher as good as he is should not be as bad as he has been pitching lately, and I think the blame has to partially be on Flowers for his pitch selection.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 13, 2015 -> 02:01 PM)
The one thing we know for certain is that this roster can't be Rick Hahn's fault.

JR can relieve him and KW of their duties next.

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Montas is in, 3 of first 4 hitters to face him have reached, bases loaded.

QUOTE (fathom @ Sep 13, 2015 -> 02:01 PM)
Cooper's done a great job with Sale and Samardzija this year....:(

Cooper should have a job forever here as long as Sale avoids longterm injury

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Sep 13, 2015 -> 02:20 PM)
Cooper should have a job forever here as long as Sale avoids longterm injury

One team ERA in the top 1/2 of MLB in 7 seasons.

Tied himself to Ventura

Bye bye

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QUOTE (GreenSox @ Sep 13, 2015 -> 03:22 PM)
One team ERA in the top 1/2 of MLB in 7 seasons.

Tied himself to Ventura

Bye bye

As I pointed out the last time someone said that one, between the White Sox playing in a park that often plays as an above average hitters park and the White Sox having had the 29th or 30th worst defense in MLB over the past 10 years, ERA isn't telling you everything, and both bWAR and fWAR find the White Sox pitching staff a lot better than ERA does. A top pitching staff and a 30th ranked defense probably still won't have an ERA in the top 1/2 of the league.

QUOTE (Mike F. @ Sep 13, 2015 -> 01:35 PM)
He'd be the Cy Young front runner if he didn't have to face the Twins...dammit.

 

I'm serious when I say that they should never have him face the Twins again. He's always awful against them.

I just don't understand it. How can someone with his stuff not mow down their lineup? He has to be tipping something in his delivery. it's actually kind of embarrassing, because an ACE should not be avoiding any team. Expecially a division rival. Someone bettter figure it out

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Sep 13, 2015 -> 02:22 PM)
One team ERA in the top 1/2 of MLB in 7 seasons.

Tied himself to Ventura

Bye bye

So meaningless for a team that rarely spends on pitching (in part because of Cooper), has terrible defenses, and is otherwise effective. No idea how he's tied to Ventura considering he's been in the organization for 27 years now including under 3 managers as pitching coach.

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QUOTE (Flash Tizzle @ Sep 13, 2015 -> 08:27 PM)
I just don't understand it. How can someone with his stuff not mow down their lineup? He has to be tipping something in his delivery. it's actually kind of embarrassing, because an ACE should not be avoiding any team. Expecially a division rival. Someone bettter figure it out

 

Hunter absolutely looks like he knows what's coming

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