WestEddy

Work him out with Fuller, play the s%*# out of Kelenic in Spring Training, and maybe he makes the team. But yeah, 10-D is a league average hitter. Kelenic is a little better than you and me at this point.

Yeah, what you stated was perfectly reasonable. I think with the additions they've made, they're already somewhere above 75 wins. If they add Imai and keep Robert, getting above .500 wouldn't surprise me, and a couple rookies breaking out could push them into contention.

Baseball Errorist

He appears to be saying he believes the Sox are trying to tie up a long-term deal.

I understand that you're talking about sending money in general, but another thing hit me about Robert. Once you trade him, you lose all control over where he winds up. Trade him and $10M to the Reds for a guy who's already opening his own car wash business, and when the Reds are quite out of it in June, they trade him to the Royals, and now the Sox are paying him to play for the Royals, and he comes back around and kills us for a year and a half.

I think Tanner Murray makes Mead and Ramos superfluous. Dude has options and plays all 3 positions well.

There was a guy who wrote for FutureSox about 10 years ago. He wrote a scathing column about how there's just too much information available to the average fan, and they don't know how to process it. Minor league free agency, low level depth trades, Rule 5 protection, once this information became widely available in the internet, people would start screaming over every move. Not protecting Jordan Guerrero from a Rule 5 draft (he was never drafted) or sending Jake Peter to the Dodgers in a 3-way for Joachim Soria caused "is this a sauce or condiment" level melees on forums. Guys who never did or would do anything suddenly became very important depth pieces that never should have been moved. I think this carries on today. Every single quote gets parsed, and we all must feel embarrassed by it. That's some malarkey.

Maybe because entertaining a trade of Robert isn't about the money? If they didn't want to pay him, they could have just let him walk. They have no better options for CF right now, either in AA/AAA or even on the free agent market. It seems like he's their 2026 CF until he isn't. The Reds are in their competitive window. If they want to piddle around over a post-hype prospect and two TJS dudes, then they can enjoy another first round sweep, if they even make the playoffs again.

To be fair, I'd wait for Getz to utter Hahn's nonsense before attributing it to him. Getz seems to have his own, personal form of gibberish that doesn't exhibit a fondness for just being in the room.

Nothing to this, just posting for the spectacle of random trade ... I won't even call them rumors. Brain worms.

Don't know. I thought that was presented as the level of what the Reds were offering, and that Getz was trying to get another player added.

Oh wait, that's the one of 3 rehabbing arms, right?

It's probably the most tantalizing off-season trade rumor, so everybody keeps publishing teaser articles about teams kicking the tires on him. I'm settling on "Getz really saw Robert as the strongest ceiling of the CF options out there, so kept him for $20M. If somebody wants to suffocate him with prospects, he's all for it, but otherwise, he's got other targets."

I must have missed that. How bad?

Which means, "If Getz gets himself into meth rehab and comes down off his lofty asking price, the Reds could take Robert and $15M off his hands in exchange for an A-ball arm who's already passed his real estate licensing exam."

Yeah, comparing similar levels, Meidroth has always walked more. They only disparity is comparing Antonacci's 13.3% walk rate across 3 levels (low A to AA) to Meidroth's major league rate of 8.9%. Apples and oranges.

Why are we releasing him? He put up positive production this last season, and he's relatively cheap.

Not that somebody leaked that info to him, but that Getz was asking for a player beyond Petty (which Wittenmeyer has already told us) AND the Comp pick, which we know Getz wants to get his hands on.

Well, if the Bartolo Colonoscopy tweet has any veracity, they'd get a starting pitcher they could work on this season, a CF who hasn't made the transition to AAA yet, and a Comp pick that pads out the 2026 draft even further. While that is certainly not the Crochet return, this would definitely be workable for $10 and Robert.

I think that's where we are. The league sees Robert as what he's produced in the last 2 seasons, and Getz sees him as the post ASB guy, which means he won't be dealt unless it's for a price that nobody really wants to pay. Which is fine. I look forward to the old Robert awakening and making the league rue their miserly off-season ways.

I agree and disagree. I'm still in the trade him camp, although the Reds looked like the best trade partner. I don't know if they match up with the Pirates or Mariners for their Comp pick. I think the Sox could get 2 WAR in CF some way, and Robert being out of the picture forces them to get creative. That said, Robert does fill a huge hole out there, and if he does break through in the manner he's being marketed, hoo-boy, get outta his way.

Stretching for the sake of argument. He plays at the rate of an average major league player, even if it's just for 2/3 of a season.