WestEddy

Reinsdorf has spent in the past. He's just not invested wisely, then stopped short when that one big signing could have put them over the top for a period. I'll agree with that. And I'd also agree that they're in a self-induced cash crisis that severely limits their ability to play with the big boys right now. I don't think Getz is boy wonder, or anything. He's delivered two pretty pedestrian bullpens. Maybe Katz played a part in some of that. But letting Mike Shirley do his job, letting Bannister, Fuller and Venable do theirs, I think they start this offseason as a 70 win team, and the choices they make determine where in the 70's they wind up. I still say it wouldn't surprise me if a lot of things went right, and they won 82, or something like that. Just shoring up the bullpen could give them a couple of wins. Antonacci outplaying Meidroth/Mead and becoming a regular, B. Monty pushing Benny out of the OF mix, Schultz could pull a Colson and start looking like the pitcher he's supposed to be in the majors - pushing Cannon out of the rotation. I'm not guaranteeing it, just saying I wouldn't think I was living in an alternate reality if a handful of things went right for a change, and they were a .500 team.

Sure, if this team never hits .500 after 6 seasons of Getz, he didn't do his job. I think that's the extreme end of "worst that can happen". That would probably mean that all of Schultz, Hagen Smith, Grant Taylor, and others never develop into front line starters. That would probably also mean that the two Montys don't become first division starters, as well as Billy Carlson and 2026's first rounder. That also means that Teel, Vargas, Baldwin, Quero, Antonacci, none of them get significantly beyond league average hitters. That's, like, everything going wrong. In order for Getz to have 6 losing seasons.

Not good enough for what? Liptak said that if "everything went right", they'd be a worse team in 2026 than they were in the 2nd half of 2025. If they just tread water, get the same production from the likes of Benintendi, Robert, Tauchman and their pitching staff, that's a 70-win team. Nobody thinks they're going to sign Kyle Tucker or Schwarber, but they could do better around the edges in the bullpen and rotation. And they probably aren't in the position where adding big money free agents even puts them over the top at this point. Add Tucker, Cease and a closer, and they're maybe pushing for .500? They're most likely one season away from that type of push gets them far enough along the win curve to assure the playoffs.

I think it's silly to expect a multi-billionaire to set himself back 5 years, clearing out an entire front office that just completely upgraded the organization - out of spite. The Sox farm system just pumped 4 offensive starters and a handful of starting pitchers onto the 26-man roster. Sorry if I don't take the people seriously who thought the Sox would have trouble clearing 41 wins again this year, and whose answer to everything is "nothing changes until Getz is fired". That's most likely not happening before 2029, so I guess we'll see you back here then, huh?

Well, they played at a .430 clip after the All-Star Break, while they played .329 ball before. So, they went from a 53 to a 69 win pace. Adrian Houser made two starts after the ASB, so it's not like he was responsible for half a dozen wins. Teel, Vargas, Sosa, Baldwin and C. Monty all hit better in the 2nd half of the season. I would think that 5+ key players delivering at the same production rate as where they left off in 2025 would be "everything going right for them".

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In the "bold predictions" thread, I said 60 wins. I down graded that to 54 in the "pick the win total" thread, as I thought their offense was going to be as bad as 2024. I didn't see them fixing C. Monty, or the others (Teel, Vargas, Meidroth, Sosa) producing as they did. I do believe what I write here. I've said that I think this team, as constructed this moment, is a 70 win team. If they continue to develop, a couple of hot prospects replace lesser players on the 26-man, they could bump that to the mid 70's. Add a real starting pitcher, a couple good bullpen arms and an OF, and they could be high 70's, maybe even at .500, 81-82 wins.

I mean, really. Katrina happened. My father-in-law died. The things that happened around Katrina will be discussed in historical takes of this time. My wife's family watched the TV in the hotel outside of Baltimore as they dealt with their father's demise. We got a stray cat at that time. We called him Mr. October.

Probably zero. Getz is good at his job. It wouldn't surprise me if the 2026 team won 82.

I really try to shut up about the Cubs 2016 Championship. We all have family members and friends whose Parents lived for that moment, so we shut up. It's sacred. 2005/2016. b**** about other s%*#. Seriously, those years are sacred for baseball fans in Chicago.

Thanks. And sorry. That World Series was truly special. My nephews, and my Dad and I were calling back and forth every inning. This was a special thing.

Homer is a good thing. People who bend themselves into a pretzel to prove they're not "homers" are pathetic. Go find another fanbase, and maybe they'll let you "fluff" them. Good luck. Get a dental dam.

They're a baseball team. Compete. They get the extra draft choices, the extra international draft pool. Billionaires are billionaires. They have the entire tax code handed to them on a silver platter. We scream about how cheap Reinsdorf is, then the Brewers should be throwing the $600M contracts at everyone. They have all of Wisconsin as a fan base.

In that you're no longer a Sox fan. Good riddance to bad garbage. Good luck rooting for the Marlins. LOL.

I really don't want to hear about how great the Brewers' org is. Beat the Dodgers.

1) Drohan is a starting pitching prospect. Which means, if he develops, they'll push him into starting. Of course, this is two years later. Prove me wrong or stop dragging this out. I'm guessing Getz acted on the old guard's scouting when they chose him. Bold choice, didn't work out. 2) You incessantly whine about the losses record. I don't care about it. So if you think anything's funny, it's the guy in the mirror you're laughing at. 3) The major league team matters. The GM tries to get players for the major league team. I'm not sure what you're not understanding about this. A pitcher who might contribute to the bullpen matters more than next year's Rule 5 dude. If you're going to declare victory every time a waiver wire pitcher doesn't come in and dominate, you're going to wear Canaan Smith-Nigba, Joey Bart and Alexander Canario. Weird how the Pirates aren't on the precipice of repeating as World Series champions on your guaranteed stud acquisitions.

They're all "prospect rankings". I'm not sure where your question comes from. No rankings guarantee success. Yet, while claiming a prospect is a "bum", just because, the rankings do introduce an air of credibility around a player's prospect. But because a player isn't rank high doesn't mean he can't develop.

How much of a troll do you have to be to roll into a thread celebrating the 20 year anniversary of the WS victory, and start babbling your "White Sox sux" BS? You literally have thousands of strings here to whine about how the White Sox aren't dominating baseball, and you choose a celebration of 2005 to complain? My 43-year-old brother died 6 years before this, and the World Series was a very emotional catharsis for my family. Everything isn't about you. I guess I'm making this about me. Sorry. Said in my own voice.

What are you even talking about? None of this has anything to do with my comment you're responding to.

And you've played zero.

Ratings are a snapshot. They're not something to be attained, they're just a photo of what some "scouts" think of your system. Fajardo, matt Thompson, Cristian Mena, Aaron Combs, Luis Rodriguez, - none of these guys would have helped this team, and none have helped their new teams yet. I haven't seen anybody wonder here whether Will Venable could have motivated that Reds team to finish four games over 500 and make the playoffs on a participation seed. I may even be the first here to suggest that Francona's "manager's war" added a win to the Red's effort and got them past the Mets. Again, the discussion was that when Francona managed the Sox to a 60-102 record, or a 61-101 record, the usual suspects would not have praised Francona for his managerial prowess, and Getz for his wisdom in hiring Francona.

Players don't get paid during a strike or lockout. I think the hesitation would be for teams to see how any changes to the CBA roll out pertaining to salary caps and so forth. there's probably also a collusion-y agreement to not sign anybody in that 3 weeks between the end of the world series and the lockout.

Having dudes to pitch in the major league bullpen probably trumps a guy who was coming back slow from his injury, and most probably would have not lasted 90 days on the major league roster, thus pushing his Rule 5 status to the next season. I'm guessing Getz decided to cut bait. Perhaps you would have rather the Sox lost 125 games because they were short a man in the bullpen. Seeing how that 121 losses eats at you on a daily basis, I'm sure you'd appreciate Getz trying to get a better option on the major league roster than a rehabbing Rule 5 pick who wasn't tearing it up at the moment. But by all means, please tell me how a guy who was walking 9 per 9 IP at AAA could have been easily retained. I'm not sure what Cam Booser has to do with this. As far as the rest, you seem to be throwing sand in the sandbox because you don't want anybody comparing Will Venable to Terry Francona. I'll put the same question to you, Do you actually think that Terry Francona would have taken the 2025 White Sox team to the playoffs? That seems silly.

FanGraphs had him at #41 on their Red Sox prospects list. Thanks for pointing out another Getz development success. I hope he does better than Matthew Thompson or Cristian Mena, your last guaranteed ROY candidates.

Thus, proving my point that some pitching prospects go unprotected. Thank you, Holden.