WestEddy

I'm not really concerned about the White Sox nailing rankings on listicles. The handling of Colson shows the White Sox aren't, really, either. Should we care about Hagen Smith's "prospect luster"? I'd rather he develop as a strong pitching prospect. The rankings will take care of themselves.

I think I've read that Getz felt he had to nail his first 1st rounder, so made a choice they felt they could develop properly. Bannister was already in place, and Fuller wasn't. As "bad" as Smith looks like, the Sox avoided an injury. He's pitching with reworked mechanics, and is striking out 12.8 per 9IP at a level he's 3.5 years young for. He's walking guys, but I'd imagine that'll work itself out as he grows into his delivery.

Yeah, that's kind of how the word "if" works.

Did you just make an insane leap in logic that had nothing to do with the discussion to dunk on a point nobody made?

I'm not sure what this means, but they're around a .420 w-l % since about May 1, last I checked.

Your comment was vague. I took it to mean that if he was any good, other orgs would be sniffing around. My bad. If Getz builds a winner with a slashed budget, and basically rebuilding the entire scouting, development and procurement apparati from the ground up - on the fly, half of the league would be throwing PBO offers at him after his first high profile finish. Dombrowski and Friedman both had success in weird, cheap organizations, and when they hit the open market, they were spoiled for choice.

If you wanted to do one or two wins better than last year, they could have just kept Jesse Scholtens and Jared Shuster to eat innings.

Getz started with a team basically assembled from parking lot tryouts, and 2 years later, has a team playing somewhere between a 68-80 win pace over 162.

Placating the owner and carving out the space one needs to do one's job is an important skill. So perhaps you're saying that Getz was uniquely qualified to take a job that would have had few applicants.

Civale asked for the trade, Milwaukee didn't "punish" him by trading him. I think all of the White Sox, Brewers, Civale and Vaughn all won. Everybody got what they wanted.

Is "what" now? Rockway pointed out that Vaughn has had 100 PA runs like this before. I stated that he needed a change-of-scenery kick-in-the-pants to focus him. Vaughn's success doesn't change my opinion on development from 2017-2020.

Of course. Whether Getz was qualified, or "deserved" his promotion has been talked to death. Development was not getting the best out of what was acquired. I found it affirming that as soon as he became GM, he made a slew of changes to scouting and development. That told me he wanted those changes all along, and was using his authority to enact them. They're still a long way off, and a lot of assets are still going to fall through the cracks. I find it amazing to look at the history of White Sox first rounders, and during the period between the drafting of Alex Fernandez (1990) and Chris Sale (2010), there was a vast wasteland of opportunity. Aaron Rowand put up 12 bWAR for us, and Gordon Beckham put up about 7 bWAR. That's it.

You both seem to have said the same thing.

I hope so. At the very least, he replaces Cannon while he gets his s%*# back together.

Frankly, I'm surprised that Shuster made it this long.

@Y2Jimmy0, why no love for a guy like Grant Umberger? He seems to have been dominant for a stretch at Kanny and has similar or better numbers than Luis Reyes. Is it that somebody like Reyes exhibits better mechanics and ceiling, is it age or pedigree? Thanks.

He had the same coaches that Monty, Meidroth, Vargas, Robert, Sosa, Quero and Teel had. Vaughn needed a kick in the pants to focus, and he's done that.

I don't even think another club can request an interview unless it's for a clear promotion, which means that teams would have to interview Getz for PBO. That's ludicrous.

Winnah! 12-11 since the All-Star break.

He was starting in AAA, but we'll see how long he goes.

The White Sox 40-man was full, so somebody had to get bumped to roster Yoendrys Gomez. That turned out to be Julks. Because we're on the other side of the TDL, Julks has to be waived. If he passes through waivers, he has the option to refuse an outright assignment and declare for free agency. Martin Perez is still on the 60-day IL, so he is not taking up a roster spot. He will force a DFA somewhere when he's ready in the next week.

Somebody longing for the days when the Sox had one bad utility infield prospect in their minor league system was not on my bingo card.

Gray plays SS, Mead doesn't. Mead was a top 40 prospect, and isn't 25 yet. This seems like a weird bone to pick. Houser was a scrap heap 5th starter. Getz procured a post-hype top 40 infield bat for him. Do you know of any trade rumors for Houser that had us getting a significantly better prospect package?