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I linked the wrong cdc page, but i figured i don't need to update it because the other three articles i listed quoted fauci or the CDC so it was just duplicate information. That link is about the approved covis vaccines though, which is being discussed. This is the first line of the page "Now that there is an authorized and recommended COVID-19 vaccine in the United States, accurate vaccine information is critical."

Yes, this is true and it's why I didn't put that it "does not prevent contagion" because we just don't know... at the same time, all we can go off of is what we do know and a lack of knowing is proof enough to hold off on proclaiming everyone has to be vaccinated to go out in public. I'm also a bit concerned because the CDC and pharma companies have really pushed the narrative of social distancing and mask up into 2022 even with everyone vaccinated, which allows my cynical side to speculate that they have some data showing the opposite but that is entirely speculatory based on no facts or evidence.

I've already posted the link to pfezier, Moderna and Fauci saying the exact thing; if you want to spread disinformation though, be my guest. Here's other sources; https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/verify/will-covid-vaccine-stop-people-from-spreading-virus-verify/65-980a9c42-2790-4658-96ff-26d144fc6bb8 https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/vaccine-benefits/facts.html "The goal of the vaccines is stop the spread of disease once the virus is inside the body. But whether an immunized person is no longer contagious is not known yet." It's important for people to actually understand what the vaccine provably does; as of right now, it does not provably stop the people from getting the virus and potentially being contagious/spreading it to others.

What? As of now, all we know is that the vaccine helps fight the symptoms. No one is saying you will not get COVID if you take the vaccine. Neither companies have even tested that, and we have no idea if it's true. No studies show it even reduces the likelihood of getting covid (they didn't have enough time to test this) As of today, just because you get the vaccine does not mean you cant get covid and spread it asymptomatically. Which makes requiring a vaccine to attend an event entirely meaningless. People who are vaccinated can possibly still give other people covid.

How can it be prevented by a vaccine that has no data - yet - showing that it prevents you from being contagious? I honestly feel like people aren't getting this part. This is a new kind of vaccine that has never been developed before around RNA; as of now, there is no evidence that it prevents the spread of the virus. How would getting the vaccine help prevent the spread when there's no proof it actually prevents the spread?

I've read this a couple times in this thread so I just went to look up if this was true and found this: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/11/17/fact-check-ticketmaster-not-requiring-vaccine-entry/6305223002/ It doesn't seem like this is true. "We know there’s been some incorrect information being reported around safety/entry requirements and want to ensure everyone has all the facts," the tweet reads. "To clarify, there is absolutely no requirement from Ticketmaster mandating vaccines/testing. In a full statement on Ticketmaster's site, the company writes that it is "trying to prepare for potential possibilities in the future," adding that if this is something venues ask fans to do in the future, it wants to be prepared. " Sounds like they are just being prepared for venues maybe forcing them to have this process but they do not plan on doing it themselves. And I don't see how a vaccine helps any of this if it doesn't prevent the spread of the virus. Honestly, if people chose not to get it - when made available - their health should be on them; as someone who wants to wait and see until other countries start giving it out, I would be one of those people at the beginning. If this virus just prevents you from getting symptoms and getting sick, then it really is a personal choice because it won't actually accelerate any spreading.

again though, until there's actual proof that the vaccine stops the spread/contagion you can't do something like this. That very likely may happen, but as of today it just hasn't.

I actually agree with this as well; especially college sports. No idea why we have college kids (hoping Keyontae is ok) playing sports for profit right now and being put at risk.

Agree 100%; and I want to be safe first. I also want them to just play without fans because I'm selfish lol

What did I say that was wrong exactly? https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/08/health/covid-vaccine-mask.html The new vaccines will probably prevent you from getting sick with Covid. No one knows yet whether they will keep you from spreading the virus to others — but that information is coming https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-southkorea/south-korea-to-buy-millions-of-coronavirus-vaccine-doses-but-sees-no-need-to-hurry-idUSKBN28I053 “We don’t see the need to hurriedly begin vaccination without ensuring that the vaccines’ risks have been verified,” he said. It's not informed? It may not agree with what you believe, but it's based off those two reports above which have both come out witin the past week. Sorry if I'm hesitant to be well-run countries guinea pig with a vaccine technology that has never existed prior.

Don't want to take this off-course so I'll just say this is 100% true, but do we really want to be taking a vaccine that countries that managed the virus well aren't taking yet for safety reasons, just because our leadership screwed up? I want to take a vaccine because it's safe, not because my government fucked up managing the virus. As for your second point, I understand that view for sure and can see that being the reason. I don't have much faith in ownership though, but you could absolutely be correct.

What am I an authority on? I have concerns on a vaccine, just as the entire country of South Korea does. I am not a doctor or a scientist; I am merely pointing out that they themselves told us a vaccine this year was IMPOSSIBLE and it was impossible due to the amount of time the safety process took. I am also pointing out that Dr Fauci himself said the vaccine has not yet been proven to contain the spread of the virus. Would you like me to link my sources in the future? I am not advising anyone to listen to my opinion and concerns on a vaccine. People are free to do what they want. I am giving my opinion on the concern some people have. Sources for my buddy: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/08/health/covid-vaccine-mask.html "The new vaccines will probably prevent you from getting sick with Covid. No one knows yet whether they will keep you from spreading the virus to others — but that information is coming." https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-southkorea/south-korea-to-buy-millions-of-coronavirus-vaccine-doses-but-sees-no-need-to-hurry-idUSKBN28I053

Sure, but we know MLB doesn't actually care about the health and safety of anyone. Hence how they had fans in the stands in the playoffs and let ginger man ignore all protocols and celebrate. This is all about paying the players less and having them subsidize the losses for another year; yet as I noted before, they never give players raises as the games revenues have skyrockted changing the split from about 51/49 or 50/50 down to roughly 46/54 now. And Balta, I don't want to get into a vaccine discussion but as of today there is no evidence (yet) that the vaccine itself limits contagion. What we do know is that it helps the body overcome the virus without symptoms. The rushed process - South Korea, for example is taking a "wait and see how safe" approach with the vaccine and that should be alarming at least somewhat - has caused people to be genuinely concerned. Young people really shouldn't be lining up to get a vaccine that may not prevent contagion, and in theory could have a bigger long term risk than the actual disease. Just five months ago the media and doctors on TV told us it was IMPOSSIBLE to have a vaccine by the end of the year; after Trump said otherwise. The reason being? They said we needed proper procedures that take time to assure safety. Now the virus is here and they wonder why some people are hesitant to take it. South Korea is even taking a wait and see approach as I noted, which to me is a bit curious and concerning.

While this is true; Hendriks did used to be a starter. Additionally, as a professional Hendriks has thrown 1270 innings and Yates 649 innings. I think I said this elsewhere but I for sure have big concerns about how much Hendriks was used by the A's over the last two years. Over that period, only Jalen Beeks has pitched more innings out of relief than Hendriks (111 v 108) and Beeks is a long reliever so he's actually made less than half the appearances (which is more damaging than the inning count for relievers IMO). Only Craig Stammen, Ty Buttrey and Yusmeiro Petit have made more appearances than Hendriks 97 (of guys who average at least 1 IP per appearance). Lastly, Hendriks ranks 9th amongst all relief pitchers in pitches thrown in the last 2 years; and is the only pitcher in the top 10 who pitched in high leverage situations primarily.

I have no idea how Bob can look in the mirror with all the water he carries for ownerships: Joe Biden isn't talking about a National Shutdown; this is a blatant lie from an owner (probably Jerry) that Bob pushed. Owners don't want to open up until they can get 100% of gate; it's absurd, and obnoxious. They could easily start the season on time (they literally played through the pandemic last year lol) but they simply don't want to. Baseball is doing everything it can to push fans further and further from the game. They've laid off hundreds - if not thousands of employees - all while maintaining their anti-trust exemption and their absurd wealth. They took public money to fund stadiums that they'll now close unless they can make as much money as possible off them. These guys are crooks.

Seek. Help.

This is true for futures, because their hold is so high you cant really beat the market- especially with the time value of money too so futures do move on air and they also hedge in spots they're overly exposed. The win totals market is better but still has its flaws due to false moves to even out the combined totals. The day to day game odds are pretty darn close to equal odds because of how much is invested and how much lower the hold is. Im talking about the closing line though not openers. No reputable book moves on air when dealing -110.

The World Series futures market is not predictive. When they release season win totals, those are usually more efficient predictors of team results than the publicly available projection systems though.

Which is my concern. I think the Twins and Yankees will get better over the next few weeks (Yankees will get who they want despite their posturing) and if the Sox made their big splash (Lynn), the projected win total isn't going to be moved much by a Hendriks move. I also think if the Angels. say, sign Bauer that they could basically put themselves on an even level. The A's and Rays will likely find value to make up for their losses. Twins, Yankees, Rays, Angels(longer shot), Oakland, and Astros are all teams that I think could be within 2 wins of the Sox projection wise which is a problem. Don't sleep on the Astros; they lose Springer, sure, but Tucker is going to get a full year and he's a stud. I think Whitely is one of the big surprises and break out stars in baseball next year, and the Astros lineup is every bit as good as the White Sox. If the Sox would have signed a viable RF'er, they'd have a little bit of a cushion heading into the rest of the off-season but we didn't so

Because I have the twins and astros players being projected to be worth more than the White Sox. Sox could have taken the lead and been the favorite or second favorite in the AL, but they simply haven't yet. The race is pretty tight between the top 5 teams in the AL. Id argue the Angels are even in the mix but if they don't finally add some depth and get some production out of SP they'll be in trouble again. I'm not overly high on Keuchel next year, and sox have nothing at 4-5 right now. So their rotation is a concern. Position player wise sox are deep but they've still got non-gtees in RF and at 2B. Offensively luis isn't guaranteed next year but he'll be an impact player regardless which is nice.

Behind Yankees, Astros, and Twins. A's and Rays have a few bigger holes to fill first.

Yeah, I still have them as the 4th best team in the AL as of today (depending on rest of off-season) which leaves too much margin for actually missing the playoffs for my liking.

I admittedly wasn't a big reader when I was a kid (meaning I couldn't read a book if my life depended on it). When I hit my twenties, I actually read the first book I recommended above and I became infatuated with not just Native history, but with non-fiction tales that exposed the lies sold to us in our broken educational system. Today I focus more on economics and finance, and the exploitation of all of us - by a very select few - but I'll never forget the book that made me realize that I had been sold a crock of shit in school as a child; no different than how North Korea teach propagated history to their citizens. IDK if you haven't figured it out yet, but citing your middle school and elementary school history classes as your basis of expertise has already told on yourself without anyone ever having to respond.

Two great reads for someone who actually wants to learn about what our ancestors did and the genocide they participated in : "Not Genocide" just the systematic destruction of an entire group of people and their culture.

I'm going to bow out because you clearly just have no idea what you're talking about and you'll just deny until you die which is your right to do. America's broken education system has produced denialist like you in bulk. This guy really said "And hell america is easily one of the least racist in comparison" The entire countries initial economy was built on racism. That racism existed well into the 1950's legally. I'd say give this book a read, but we know that won't happen: