Look at Ray Ray Run

Because Bauer told us himself last year. He has increased his spin rate this year significantly and he told us last year the only way to do that was with a foreign substance... and he said if no one is going to enforce it... Steroids clearly are significantly more beneficial. Record books were rewritten because of steroids. People have been stealing signs for eons and the Astros weren't the only team doing this. They were wrong, they got caught, and they should have faced stricter punishment but it wasn't more beneficial to the AStros than the entire team using steroids for example. And i think the benefit has been overplayed by guys like Bauer because pitchers love being victims.

because they're all pitchers and they're idiots. Pitchers could take steroids too so they felt they could level the playing field. Steroids clearly is much more beneficial, if you don't believe me go look at the record books. Additionally, Bauer is cheating himself so he might want to step off his soap box.

No team is going to name a new manager during the middle of the World Series; the only people who announce things during the World Series are people like A-Rod. The rest of people throughout the game will allow the spotlight to shine on the playoffs before making any off-season moves to draw attention away from the games being played.

And nah, Jerry is friends with the Wilpons. I think Jerry believes Cohen is dirty and bad for the game, but then again he's friends with crook Wilpon so it's hard to tell with these guys. Jerry has always hated Cohen though - pushed against his drive to buy the Dodgers earlier too. Odds are Jerry liked Fred because Fred helped suppress salaries with him and shared that same goal as an owner lol

I don't recall, but as someone who is heavily invested in the broken financial system Steve Cohen is everything that is wrong with Wall Street. He paid a 1.8 billion dollar fine because he made all his money with insider tactics and dirty trading and was caught multiple times. He made 14 billion dollars by stealing from the average Joe, and the price he paid was a fine that didn't hurt him one bit. The guy should have given back every single dollar he made since his hedge fund was basically a legalized mafia group that intimidating companies and people at them. There's one story about Fairfax Insurance - a Canadian company. Stevie and his goons had thought it was the next Enron so they started shorting the shit out of the stock. When it turned out they were wrong and Fairfax wasn't underwater and going under, they paid people to intimidate employees and staff members to get them to quit and etc. Late night threatening phone calls, using media connections to smear them with fake info, all in hopes of tanking the company so they wouldn't lose money. Steve Cohen isn't a genius; he's a market manipulator who doesn't play by the rules and literally stole 15 billion dollars from people like you and me.

Stevie Cohen is a crook who literally stole his billions; MLB claiming Mark Cuban wasn't worthy while voting this clown and McCourt in as owners is awful; that's not even counting the fact that Loria was an embarrassment and The Wilpons are criminals themselves.

There was literally nothing intelligent about ChiSox1917's ignorant post filled with inaccuracies and mistruths. The fact that the guy wrote this sentence: "i dont agree that their experiences trump impersonal data and statistics that there is a systemic issue of racism in this country." Shows how ignorant and misinformed he is. People that continue to spew this nonsense should not be respected for "having a differing opinion." Their unwillingness to listen is exactly why things haven't improved for so many.

Willfull ignorance is not an excuse for bigoted views. Saying its disrespectful to the veterans while not listening to the actual meaning of it - understanding it has nothing to do with the military - is the problem. Also, when did the military take over the national anthem again? Did I miss that? TlR was telling a black man how he should and shouldn't protest systemic injustice. He may not have been trying to be racist, but it's actions and people like Tony whose willful ignorance has exasperated and carried on these racist systems for eternity. I'm done making excuses for idiots like that.

Uh, yes. I'm going to risk my career to stop my chemical company from polluting the Mississippi. One is literally killing people; the other is... uh... a baseball game. Same difference

My goodness; as much as I think we like to view ourselves as moralistic absolutists who would always do what is right... I have a hard time buying this. 1. Manfred doesn't care; he was told multiple times and ignored it 2. You will be done with baseball for good; no one will hire someone that does that. However right or wrong. I think Hinch had more control and power and obviously could have stopped it; it's a cop out to argue otherwise imo.

by not mortgaging any part of rhe future for a shortened weird covid season? Yeah I'm not buying that for one second. Jerry's mad that hahn didn't spend and invest more at the deadline? Please.

Agree with you as well; I mentioned in another post but the stage clearly got too big and the guy was a nervous wreck. Pacing... hands on the knees... nervous face.. etc. He blew it and is being held accountable. In big spots every .01 run matters and renteria choking hurt the team in those spots. The termination was 100% warranted BUT it wasn't Rick renterias fault they didn't win it all.

Super bummed; opened this thread assuming the managerial candidate list news had been updated but it was just an opinion.

The umpires had a bigger impact on the White Sox win % in the playoffs than the Manager did. My point is essentially the Sox over performed - you will justify that performance as solely a representation of PD and career years and etc. Ricky didn't make optimal game decisions late in the season, but those decisions direct impact on the game is smaller than what it is represented as here. For example, in a 3-3 game in the 7th there were 42+ opportunities to do something prior, just counting outs, and there were multiple AB's with RISP, or multiple errors that put them in the spot; maybe a missed signed, or etc... you get the point. A game in which Renteria puts the wrong reliever in during the 8th, when the game is tied or Sox are up 1, but Madrigal made 2 errors early that led to 3 runs was not a game that Renteria "lost." And this is exactly where the idea that a manager loses all these games is nonsense. The Manager made an ERROR just like a player did. A certain amount of errors and that leads to an increase in expected runs against or decrease in runs for; enough of those added up and it can equal a win. A manager might impact some runs over the season, but he DIDN't lose the game in those games. The players had many more opportunities than the manager to make a difference, and they simply didn't get it done. The biggest difference too is that a managing error - even when egregious - isn't worth a whole run like a fielding error or baserunning gaffe. It's putting a guy who is 6% more likely to give up a hit, or 8% more likely to allow a run to score. It's not like the choice is between a guy with a .100 BAA and a guy with a .600 BAA. Renteria made a lot of errors down the stretch.

I agree with both of you, for the record .

I've posted the article here a few times but cooper is directly credited with helping turn it around in an August piece done by Fegan from two years back.

I mean, there's only no evidence if you ignore Giolitos own words.

Good info, thanks.

Thought that became pretty clear when I left the thread for hours and the conversation continued on between 6 other posters but apparently orlando has them all blocked

what are you even talking about? Go cry somewhere else. We were discussing a manager in a manager thread. Its not a tony la russa news only thread. If it were your posts in it are worthless as well.

Dude I answered the question twice. I'm not going to repeat myself just to carry on a never ending discussion.

Yeah, I agree to an extent. If you could get a DeGrom over depth at SP I'd likely do that. I just don't think Bauer is in that group. I'd like Gausman/Quintana over Bauer as well..

My problem with Gausman, as someone who has watched a lot of Gaus over the past few years, is he's a worser version of Javier Vazquez (low stranded rate, elevated HR rate, higher ERA than FIP); that's my favorite comp. Gausman has always been tantalizing because his stuff has been + but he's always gotten in trouble. For a while, the thought was Baltimore had just ruined another arm but then he went to Atlanta and was awful. Now, the changes could have taken time, and he was fantastic this year with the Giants - some of the best KK/BB rates in the game - but that ballpark helps a lot of shitty arms look better... although it couldn't help too much with the K's. I'd take Gausman over Stroman because I've always been a huge fan of the tools, and it's POSSIBLE - similarly to how I felt about Wheeler last year but on a smaller level - that Gausman actually has his best years in his low-mid 30's as a pitcher as he finally learned how to use his stuff and his mind to get batters out. Small pitchers really don't age as well either; Stroman already has broken barriers with his height, but I don't want to bank on a guy of his stature aging well. I'm not a fan of Bauer for what he'll cost; he's inconsistent, and a me-first guy. He cheated this year to increase his spin rate - don't mistaken that, he told you himself. That means his results are slightly artificial to me, if people want to enforce the substance on the ball rule for once.

Guy, I don't have a son. I was just messin' around. Lighten up, Francis. I presented my point multiple times; if you haven't grasped it yet, that's on you. Have a great weekend my man.

It's FRIDAY SS2k, and I'm taking a 3 day weekend after finishing up the midterms of my masters, and completing my first week with the new job! It's going to be soxtalk troll city today!!!!!!!! Get your popcorn ready! All jokes aside, please no La Russa. BOCHY! BOCHY! BOCHY!