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Hmmm so roman is an asshole cuz hes standing up for what he believes in and you just dont happen to agree with it? were the f*** do you get that from? Psycho and I are old and good friends. You think it is trashing on my good friend to say that we should try and change the world rather than leave it as it is? Don't you think that others tried to make the world better for you? Do you disagree that we should try and improve the world in which we live and not just accept evil? If we talk about this, am I trashing psycho - or you? I thought this was conversation between friends. The only one with rolling eyes right now are the ones looking at you in the mirror

Thank you Jason. None uf us should ever accept the way things are. We are here to change things, or at least try, to make something better for someone else whenever we can.

That is the least surprizing statement I have seen, ever. Self-absorbtion must be wonderful.

1. Sorry I am too stupid to please you. Will you ever forgive me? 2. Wins and losses are what, a matter of, say, production? If baseball is a game based on production, then how do we measure that apart from the final product? Production, product - that would be wins and losses. It is not the only way to measure but it remains of most importance - sorry that I am so stupid that I believe that. The season will be judged by who many wins and losses we have - or has baseball given that up? 3. A superior pitcher will triumph over a bad team. Look at Steve Carlton in 1972. And that raises the point of how old are you? I do not ask that to be insulting - I am curious if you ever saw Ryan pitch the first ten-fifteen years of his career. As it turns out, I did. He had a high number of strike outs and also wild pitches and pitches hitting the backstop (an old school term) and the guy's success was predicated in large part by the fear of the batters - the ball could be down the middle of the strike zone as well as 5 feet over their heads as well as hit them. Randy Johnson had sort of the same thing going for much of his career. I find it a tad amusing when someone who wasn't alive when a player was playing tells me what that player did when I saw that player. Nolan Ryan had a hall of fame career. He stayed in the majors the first part of his career because of his potential, not so much because of what he was actually doing. And his no hit games were amazing but so was his lack of control and his essentially 500 pitching record. This is not a knock on Ryan - and it is also a tad amusing the defensiveness of trying to insist that a favorite player is perfect and had no flaws. Everyone has their good and bad points. Given a pitcher to win any one game, no one would pick a Nolan Ryan - you'd take a Seaver, a Gibson, a Koulfax. No one will probably ever touch those Ryan no hitters. 4. Try suggesting to Selig and the Cy Young voters that counting wins and losses are "stupid." Maybe you can find a way to talk us into the World Series and Todd Ritchie could win the 2002 Cy Young retroactively. But then again, I am too stupid to understand, I guess. I think producing = production. Damn am I am dumb f***!

very well stated.

my good friend, that question is almost offensive. Before you phrase a question like that, think of the possibilities. I would suggest a trip to google.com and type the name in and see what you get. I find it really hard to believe that someone of your general intelligence and awareness would even have to ask this question.

that generally is enough. if a player needs a manager to be motivated, the player isn't playing, and shouldn't be.

Your boys are Joe B, Miguel, Mags, me - how many boys are you claiming? I know nothing about this guy - tell me, please...

is it possible to get a name here?

bottom line is I think that for many of Ryan's years, his record sucked. I posted the stats to show why. Agree or disagree, but do not tell others what they should or should not post. MB's stats for this point in his career are better than Ryan's. No idea what they will mean at the end of MB's career, but it should keep anyone freom being too judgmental. Young talent takes time to develop, often. It did in Ryan's case.

of some interest is when sosa - who used the corked bat at Wrigley - when sosa puts on any show for the chicago fans since their batting practice is almost always over before the gates open - lies compound here

I just looked up the story on chicagosports.com The dude collected $300,000 from the Dodgers for his damages in a settlement and a cook county jury awarded $475,000 from the cubs for their lack of security - it was a cubs fan who sued - actually it was probably a rather open and shut case in terms of liability - and since we have no way of knowing the severity of the injuries received by this individual, we have no way of judging the fairness of the jury decision

when the thread goes on and on with hate and violence... remember it is real 4+ years and we have learned nothing

Ah, but one argument for extra tax on alcohol is the increased medical costs that the system bears because of drinking. One argument for the extra taxes on cigarettes is the increased medical costs that the system bears because of smoking. Now what about the extra costs that the system bears - and thus me, as someone with high health insurance premiums and who pays taxes - because of all the people who eat fatty foods to excess? I am not for or against, just pointing out the logical consistency of the proposition. It is the same justification used to mandate seat belts and motorcycle helmets and many other things - it is the rest of us who pay.

you still don't even know who got the judgment and you keep going on and on. You have no clue as to what the facts were that were offered as proofs. You select those things that you remember and expect that to be the standard of truth. That is why we have courts, and I am glad the American constitutional system provides for that, for places to determine liability rather than have someone who lies 2,000 miles from the incident and whose sole knowledge of it is what the saw on Sportscenter be the arbitrator of truth.

you are the only person who used that phrase.

Thanks bud but I did not misuse the word "suck." Notice how I referred to seasons in which Nolan Ryan sucked and that was twiosted to mis-state that I said Ryan sucked. In fact, look at the double digit losses that Nolan Ryan had 10 years in a row . 1971 24 NYM NL 10 14 1972 25 CAL AL 19 16 1973 26 CAL AL 21 16 1974 27 CAL AL 22 16 1975 28 CAL AL 14 12 1976 29 CAL AL 17 18 1977 30 CAL AL 19 16 1978 31 CAL AL 10 13 1979 32 CAL AL 16 14 1980 33 HOU NL 11 10 Look at those losses from 72-77. Can you imagine what would be said about any Sox pitcher, MB included and especially, if in 6 consecutive seasons he lost 16, 16, 16, 12, 18, and 16? I actually remember in real life when Nolan Ryan did in fact suck as a pitcher - look at the stats. I was probably older than some posters here, ahem, when Ryan was a young wild picther who was all potential and double digit losses season after season. That does not take way that he ahd a Hall of fame career. But for 10 years of that career, Ryan's loss totals were in the Ritchie-esque category. In 10 years, Ryan won what, a total of only 14 more than he lost with double digit losses. Call it what you may - I remember it well. And I refuse to anyone's homework, but MB's record for his first 3 years is superiuor to Ryan's. I am not sying that at the end of MB's career he will be greater than Ryan, or even a hall of famer. Time will tell. But when the rap it put on our players, I like to ask people: check the stats before you trash. And Ryan sucked for a few years and didn't hit any type of consistent winning stride until the 2nd half of his career - still outside of the living memory of many.

yowza yowza yowza!

right now they are b****ing about having to do the post game shows this weekend at that minor league park - they'd prefer to do it somewhere, anywhere else!

lol i dont know...but sometimes its hard to resist the cookin in the kitchen....... nothin' says lovin' like somethin' in the oven...

hells bells - how do you do what you do to me?

What are you talking about man? Do you not remember the incident? A guy took Chad's hat, probably yelled some drunken obscenties in his face, and Chad choked him. Is that allowable in a civil society? To start choking a guy because he takes your hat and says some words to you? If you think that is acceptable and commendable.... And you're right, the justice system is perfect, so let's blindly accept any and all court decisions that are made I remember the incident very well. I also know who is clueless about what statute law and case law in civil cases. It is not what you personally think because you saw something on tv news once. It is what is presented to the court in light of all of the rules of evidence and who is liable for what and what the law defines.

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and I also had a tiger in my tank!