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I'm getting the game on MLB radio today - at work - it didn't work on Monday so very happy to have it today - glad I manage this office so no one can tell me to turn the baseball off!

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so do I

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Haven't missed a home opener since 1988, when I was 12 years old. not necessarily - you could be wealthy person with no job. Walked 10 miles to attend openers in years 1989, 90, 91 and 92. this is a definite upper deck thing to do - but why not take the bus or el? Slept outside Comiskey in 2000 for playoff tickets. another upoper deck winner! Blew a red light while in the car listening to Jeff Abbott hit game-winning home run off Minnesota's Bob Wells. Received citation. can't give you this one. Real upper deck person would have kept on driving and never seen the cop behind them, let alone stoip for a citation. And what the hell was wrong with the cop anyway? Owned season tickets in 1997, 98, 99, 01. and you gave them up? Overall you could be upper deck material! I be in section 533 Friday - usually in 534 but had to make due. I actually love the upper deck. What I can't stand is the bleachers. I feel a million miles away from the game out there.

.1 inning, 27 hits, 54 walks, 18 hbp, and the computers break trying to calculate era. I agree with those who said lets not jinx this. As far as staying on topic, I feel like someone is trying to be my mommy but she is deceased and I don't need another one. Lectures and chiding are not needed here. Dooes anyone besides me wonder how can there be any "sin" in "sincere" and where is the "good" in "goobye"? What is Royal about Kansas City? Why doesn't zach23 post more often? Is Bartolo the full name or is it short for Bartelemeo? I think that Robert Morse was the best Barlelby to ever play that role in the Matchmaker.

540 is 6 sections down from me and I'll thank you not to knock the upper deck. How do we know you are good enough to qualify as an upper deck person?

Tony Graffanino will be the starting shortstop today, and manager Jerry Manuel will continue to sit switch-hitter Jose Valentin against left-handed pitchers. LHP Jeremy Affeldt will pitch for Kansas City, and Valentin is a career .217 hitter against southpaws. Manuel said if the White Sox win a World Series, he would think about walking away from the game. LHP Mark Buehrle is 6-3 with a 2.91 ERA against Kansas City after losing the opener. C Sandy Alomar, 36, is the oldest player on the roster, and RHP Jon Garland, 23, is the youngest.

well f***, I wish all the damned swearing would just f***ing cease, it makes this site look like s*** to see all the f***ing cuss words on it.

SI, did you read my post? What is before the court is the particular UM policy (and all of those that will be impacted by it), the facts of this case. Read my post and tell me if what I said, or what UM is doing, is all about race. As far as one particular potential law student who says, I'm qualified, who knows whose place would have lost had she been admitted.

I wonder how many listened to the extensive coverage on NPR last night of the arguments before the Supreme Court? The Michigan case has nothing to do with lowering standards and it is wrong to suggest that affirmative action has done that in general, or that that is the issue in particular in the Michigan case. This case involves both the underfrad and the law school. The UM law school has taken no one who was not in the top 16% of the scores of the prelaw school exams and has consistently been one of the top ranked law schools in the country, currentl ranked 7th as the justices noted. Lowering of standards is not, not at issue. Racism still exists in our society and expresses itself in many ways. The question at Michigan is how to choose from a pool of generally equally qualified applicants to maintain the very high standards that Michigan has, and it rests upon the precept that diversity itself is an educational value. Those last 6 words are what led the Joint Chiefs of Staff, retired military generals and admirals, and many in the military, as well as the leaders of so many corporations to file supporting briefs for UM. Diversity is itself an educational value. That has been not only a precept of education but the law of this land since the Bakke case, when quotas were ruled as illegal. This society is not color blind. At Michigan to promote diveristy as an educational value, with a large number of applicants essentially equally qualified, the question was how to ensure the total quality of education, including the experience of students being with students not like them selves, from different cultures and backgrounds, of different experiences, so that students will leave the university better equipped to deal in a multicultural world, as well as overcome a uniformity of perspective in the classroom that results when students are all/almost all from the same social, racial, ethnic, and class status. Overlooked in all this anti Michigan thing from people who haven't studied the case in depth is that students from rural backgrounds (predominately white) have benefitted as well - without the opportunity for all the glitz and star points on their curriculum vitaes, because their communities cannot generally afford to provide all the little spangles, yet totally academically qualified. This has been true of EVERYONE accepted at UM. Everyone has been academically qualified to meet Michigan's high standards. No one of lesser ability has been admited over someone more qualified. But the sense of entitlement of white suburbanites from the high end economic communities has been broken, and that is why the howls of protest. Diversity as a value in education has been enhanced by ensuring a student body that represents diversity, and that diversity has been determined from all those who do qualify but space does not permit the admitting of all applicants. Based on the oral arguments, the vote in the Supreme Court stands 4-4 with Justice O'Connor as the swing vote. I truly do pray that Justice O'Connor will providde the 5th vote to uphold the Bakke decision and uphold the U of Michigan. What I expect is not a clear decision in favor but a 5-4 with O'Connor writing a separate concurring opinion that will ask UM to address certain concerns that she had expressed at the oral arguments (such as no sunset provision in the UM process because of O'Connor's belief that racism in Amercia will end some day). And for all those who have been so avidly praising our military leadership, please remember the totality of the military's support for the UM process, which is similar to that at the military academies. Not every high school student has access to the same opportunities. How does a school choose from all the qualified applicants to ensure a diverse student body since that is the world in which the graduates will live, and thus diversity is a value of education. That is all this is about. Anyone who says that this is about lesser applicants admitted over more qualified applicants is simply wrong on the facts of this case.

sober?

Please do not insult my favorite body part this way! would it be better if he called him a big dick............... no, because it was impossible for D Wells to stand upright for any length of time

This way over simplifies and mis states what the U of M is doing - the backing for the UM program is strong in this state. One of the 3 plaintiffs had a 25 ACT - sorry, you don't qualify anyway. And that plaintiff was admitted to UM-Dearborn - she got admitted to UM, just not one campus, but on another. I am not going to debate the ins and outs of what Michigan's program actually is - NPR is doing an hour of the Supreme Court hearing today at 7 central - you can learn more there. But all the over-simplifications are really a disservice to everyone. The joint chiefs of staffs and all kinds of military folk as well as many major corporations have filed briefs in supprt of the UM policy - everything Michigan does is legal along the lines of the Bakke decision and not very dissimilar from the policy at the military acadamies. Anyway the policy is far more complex than presented and this state as a whole is very proud of what UM is doing.

BJMarte, how about a list of some Oscar winners in the 1970s? 1970 Picture: "PATTON", "Airport", "Five Easy Pieces", "Love Story", "M*A*S*H" Actor: GEORGE C. SCOTT in "Patton", Melvyn Douglas in "I Never Sang For My Father", James Earl Jones in "The Great White Hope", Jack Nicholson in "Five Easy Pieces", Ryan O'Neal in "Love Story" Actress: GLENDA JACKSON in "Women in Love", Jane Alexander in "The Great White Hope", Ali MacGraw in "Love Story", Sarah Miles in "Ryan's Daughter", Carrie Snodgrass in "Diary of a Mad Housewife" Supporting Actor: JOHN MILLS in "Ryan's Daughter", Richard Castellano in "Lovers and Other Strangers", Chief Dan George in "Little Big Man", Gene Hackman in "I Never Sang For My Father", John Marley in "Love Story" Supporting Actress: HELEN HAYES in "Airport", Karen Black in "Five Easy Pieces", Lee Grant in "The Landlord", Sally Kellerman in "M*A*S*H", Maureen Stapleton in "Airport" Director: FRANKLIN SCHAFFNER for "Patton", Robert Altman for "M*A*S*H", Federico Fellini for "Fellini Satyricon", Arthur Hiller for "Love Story", Ken Russell for "Women in Love" 1971 Picture: "THE FRENCH CONNECTION", "A Clockwork Orange", "Fiddler on the Roof", "The Last Picture Show", "Nicholas and Alexandra" Actor: GENE HACKMAN in "The French Connection", Peter Finch in "Sunday, Bloody Sunday", Walter Matthau in "Kotch", George C. Scott in "The Hospital", Topol in "Fiddler on the Roof" Actress: JANE FONDA in "Klute", Julie Christie in "McCabe and Mrs. Miller", Glenda Jackson in "Sunday, Bloody Sunday", Vanessa Redgrave in "Mary, Queen of Scots", Janet Suzman in "Nicholas and Alexandra" Supporting Actor: BEN JOHNSON in "The Last Picture Show", Jeff Bridges in "The Last Picture Show", Leonard Frey in "Fiddler on the Roof", Richard Jaeckel in "Sometimes a Great Notion", Roy Scheider in "The French Connection" Supporting Actress: CLORIS LEACHMAN in "The Last Picture Show", Ann-Margret in "Carnal Knowledge", Ellen Burstyn in "The Last Picture Show", Barbara Harris in "Who is Harry Kellerman, and Why is He Saying These Terrible Things About Me?", Margaret Leighton in "The Go-Between" Director: WILLIAM FRIEDKIN for "The French Connection", Peter Bogdanovich for "The Last Picture Show", Norman Jewison for "Fiddler on the Roof", Stanley Kubrick for "A Clockwork Orange", John Schlesinger for "Sunday, Bloody Sunday" 1972 Picture: "THE GODFATHER", "Cabaret", "Deliverance", "The Emigrants", "Sounder" Actor: MARLON BRANDO in "The Godfather", Michael Caine in "Sleuth", Laurence Olivier in "Sleuth", Peter O'Toole in "The Ruling Class", Paul Winfield in "Sounder" Actress: LIZA MINNELLI in "Cabaret", Diana Ross in "Lady Sings The Blues", Maggie Smith in "Travels With My Aunt", Cicely Tyson in "Sounder", Liv Ullmann in "The Emigrants" Supporting Actor: JOEL GREY in "Cabaret", Eddie Albert in "The Heartbreak Kid", James Caan in "The Godfather", Robert Duvall in "The Godfather", Al Pacino in "The Godfather" Supporting Actress: EILEEN HECKART in "Butterflies Are Free", Jeannie Berlin in "The Heartbreak Kid", Geraldine Page in "Pete 'n' Tillie", Susan Tyrrell in "Fat City", Shelley Winters in "The Poseidon Adventure" Director: BOB FOSSE for "Cabaret", John Boorman for "Deliverance", Francis Ford Coppola for "The Godfather", Joseph L. Mankiewicz for "Sleuth", Jan Troell for "The Emigrants" 1973 Picture: "THE STING", "American Graffiti", "Cries and Whispers", "The Exorcist", "A Touch of Class" Actor: JACK LEMMON in "Save the Tiger", Marlon Brando in "Last Tango in Paris", Jack Nicholson in "The Last Detail", Al Pacino in "Serpico", Robert Redford in "The Sting" Actress: GLENDA JACKSON in "A Touch of Class", Ellen Burstyn in "The Exorcist", Marsha Mason in "Cinderella Liberty", Barbra Streisand in "The Way We Were", Joanne Woodward in "Summer Wishes, Winter Dreams" Supporting Actor: JOHN HOUSEMAN in "The Paper Chase", Vincent Gardenia in "Bang the Drum Slowly", Jack Gilford in "Save the Tiger", Jason Miller in "The Exorcist", Randy Quaid in "The Last Detail" Supporting Actress: TATUM O'NEAL in "Paper Moon", Linda Blair in "The Exorcist", Candy Clark in "American Graffiti", Madeline Kahn in "Paper Moon", Sylvia Sidney in "Summer Wishes, Winter Dreams" Director: GEORGE ROY HILL for "The Sting", Ingmar Bergman for "Cries and Whispers", Bernardo Bertolucci for "Last Tango in Paris", William Friedkin for "The Exorcist", George Lucas for "American Graffiti" 1974 Picture: "THE GODFATHER, PART II", "Chinatown", "The Conversation", "Lenny", "The Towering Inferno" Actor: ART CARNEY in "Harry and Tonto", Albert Finney in "Murder on the Orient Express", Dustin Hoffman in "Lenny", Jack Nicholson in "Chinatown", Al Pacino in "The Godfather, Part II" Actress: ELLEN BURSTYN in "Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore", Diahann Carroll in "Claudine", Faye Dunaway in "Chinatown", Valerie Perrine in "Lenny", Gena Rowlands in "A Woman Under the Influence" Supporting Actor: ROBERT DE NIRO in "The Godfather, Part II", Fred Astaire in "The Towering Inferno", Jeff Bridges in "Thunderbolt and Lightfoot", Michael V. Gazzo in "The Godfather, Part II", Lee Strasberg in "The Godfather, Part II" Supporting Actress: INGRID BERGMAN in "Murder on the Orient Express", Valentina Cortese in "Day for Night", Madeline Kahn in "Blazing Saddles", Diane Ladd in "Alice Doesn't Live Here Anymore", Talia Shire in "The Godfather, Part II" Director: FRANCIS FORD COPPOLA for "The Godfather, Part II", John Cassavetes for "A Woman Under the Influence", Bob Fosse for "Lenny", Roman Polanski for "Chinatown", Francois Truffaut for "Day for Night" 1975 Picture: "ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOO'S NEST", "Barry Lyndon", "Dog Day Afternoon", "Jaws", "Nashville" Actor: JACK NICHOLSON in "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest", Walter Matthau in "The Sunshine Boys", Al Pacino in "Dog Day Afternoon", Maximilian Schell in "The Man in the Glass Booth", James Whitmore in "Give 'Em Hell, Harry!" Actress: LOUISE FLETCHER in "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest", Isabelle Adjani in "The Story of Adele H.", Ann-Margret in "Tommy", Glenda Jackson in "Hedda", Carol Kane in "Hester Street" Supporting Actor: GEORGE BURNS in "The Sunshine Boys", Brad Dourif in "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest", Burgess Meredith in "The Day of the Locust", Chris Sarandon in "Dog Day Afternoon", Jack Warden in "Shampoo" Supporting Actress: LEE GRANT in "Shampoo", Ronee Blakley in "Nashville", Sylvia Miles in "Farewell, My Lovely", Lily Tomlin in "Nashville", Brenda Vaccaro in "Jacqueline Susann's Once Is Not Enough" Director: MILOS FORMAN for "One Flew Over The Cuckoo's Nest", Robert Altman for "Nashville", Federico Fellini for "Amarcord", Stanley Kubrick for "Barry Lyndon", Sidney Lumet for "Dog Day Afternoon" 1976 Picture: "ROCKY", "All the President's Men", "Bound for Glory", "Network", "Taxi Driver" Actor: PETER FINCH in "Network", Robert De Niro in "Taxi Driver", Giancarlo Giannini in "Seven Beauties", William Holden in "Network", Sylvester Stallone in "Rocky" Actress: FAYE DUNAWAY in "Network", Marie-Christine Barrault in "Cousin, Cousine", Talia Shire in "Rocky", Sissy Spacek in "Carrie", Liv Ullmann in "Face to Face" Supporting Actor: JASON ROBARDS in "All the President's Men", Ned Beatty in "Network", Burgess Meredith in "Rocky", Laurence Olivier in "Marathon Man", Burt Young in "Rocky" Supporting Actress: BEATRICE STRAIGHT in "Network", Jane Alexander in "All the President's Men", Jodie Foster in "Taxi Driver", Lee Grant in "Voyage of the Damned", Piper Laurie in "Carrie" Director: JOHN G. AVILDSEN for "Rocky", Ingmar Bergman for "Face to Face", Sidney Lumet for "Network", Alan J. Pakula for "All the President's Men", Lina Wertmuller for "Seven Beauties" 1977 Picture: "ANNIE HALL", "The Goodbye Girl", "Julia", "Star Wars", "The Turning Point" Actor: RICHARD DREYFUSS in "The Goodbye Girl", Woody Allen in "Annie Hall", Richard Burton in "Equus", Marcello Mastroianni in "A Special Day", John Travolta in "Saturday Night Fever" Actress: DIANE KEATON in "Annie Hall", Anne Bancroft in "The Turning Point", Jane Fonda in "Julia", Shirley MacLaine in "The Turning Point", Marsha Mason in "The Goodbye Girl" Supporting Actor: JASON ROBARDS in "Julia", Mikhail Baryshnikov in "The Turning Point", Peter Firth in "Equus", Alec Guinness in "Star Wars", Maximilian Schell in "Julia" Supporting Actress: VANESSA REDGRAVE in "Julia", Leslie Browne in "The Turning Point", Quinn Cummings in "The Goodbye Girl", Melinda Dillon in "Close Encounters of the Third Kind", Tuesday Weld in "Looking for Mr. Goodbar" Director: WOODY ALLEN for "Annie Hall", George Lucas for "Star Wars", Herbert Ross for "The Turning Point", Steven Spielberg for "Close Encounters of the Third Kind", Fred Zinnemann for "Julia" 1978 Picture: "THE DEER HUNTER", "Coming Home", "Heaven Can Wait", "Midnight Express", "An Unmarried Woman" Actor: JON VOIGHT in "Coming Home", Warren Beatty in "Heaven Can Wait", Gary Busey in "The Buddy Holly Story", Robert De Niro in "The Deer Hunter", Laurence Olivier in "The Boys From Brazil" Actress: JANE FONDA in "Coming Home", Ingrid Bergman in "Autumn Sonata", Ellen Burstyn in "Same Time, Next Year", Jill Clayburgh in "An Unmarried Woman", Geraldine Page in "Interiors" Supporting Actor: CHRISTOPHER WALKEN in "The Deer Hunter", Bruce Dern in "Coming Home", Richard Farnsworth in "Comes a Horseman", John Hurt in "Midnight Express", Jack Warden in "Heaven Can Wait" Supporting Actress: MAGGIE SMITH in "California Suite", Dyan Cannon in "Heaven Can Wait", Penelope Milford in "Coming Home", Maureen Stapleton in "Interiors", Meryl Streep in "The Deer Hunter" Director: MICHAEL CIMINO for "The Deer Hunter", Woody Allen for "Interiors", Hal Ashby for "Coming Home", Warren Beatty and Buck Henry for "Heaven Can Wait", Alan Parker for "Midnight Express" 1979 Picture: "KRAMER vs. KRAMER", "All That Jazz", "Apocalypse Now", "Breaking Away", "Norma Rae" Actor: DUSTIN HOFFMAN in "Kramer vs. Kramer", Jack Lemmon in "The China Syndrome", Al Pacino in "...And Justice For All", Roy Scheider in "All That Jazz", Peter Sellers in "Being There" Actress: SALLY FIELD in "Norma Rae", Jill Clayburgh in "Starting Over", Jane Fonda in "The China Syndrome", Marsha Mason in "Chapter Two", Bette Midler in "The Rose" Supporting Actor: MELVYN DOUGLAS in "Being There", Robert Duvall in "Apocalypse Now", Frederic Forrest in "The Rose", Justin Henry in "Kramer vs. Kramer", Mickey Rooney in "The Black Stallion" Supporting Actress: MERYL STREEP in "Kramer vs. Kramer", Jane Alexander in "Kramer vs. Kramer", Barbarie Barrie in "Breaking Away", Candice Bergen in "Starting Over", Mariel Hemingway in "Manhattan" Director: ROBERT BENTON for "Kramer vs. Kramer", Francis Ford Coppola for "Apocalypse Now", Bob Fosse for "All That Jazz", Edouard Molinaro for "La Cage Aux Folles", Peter Yates for "Breaking Away"

Funny, last week, Marshall and I were talking about the upcoming baseball season (he is such a Tiger fan) and he felt the same way about you. Mr. Mathers and I could not agree on which was Handel's best opera. My favorite is Serse (also known as Xerxes) but Em chose the usual one, Julius Ceasar (so jejune of him). To make it easier for the rest of you to join in, I will list them all with the librettist and hope we can have a meaningful discussion on this topic. Aci e Galatea (1718, John Gay) Admeto (first performance: Haymarket Theatre, London, 31 gennaio 1727) Agrippina (1708-09, V.Grimani) Alcina (1735, Antonio Marchi) Alessandro (1726 ?, Paolo Antonio Rolli) L’Allegro, il Penseroso e il Moderato (1740, Charles Jennens ) Almira (1705, Feutsking Friedrich Christian, after Giulio Pancieri) Amadigi di Gaula (1715, Nicola Francesco Haym) Ariodante (1735, by composer, after Salvi) Athalia (1733, Racine) Berenice (1737) Esther (1718 - John Arbuthnot and Alexander Pope ) Flavio (1723, Nicola Francesco Haym) Floridante (1721, Rolli, after Silvani) Giustino (1737, N.Beregani) Giulio Cesare in Egitto (1724, Nicola Haym) Hercules (1745, Thomas Broughton) Imeneo (1740, libretto adapted after Stampiglia) Jephta (1752) Judas Maccabaeus (1747, Morell, after Bible) Orlando (1733, G. Braccioli) Ottone (1723, Nicola Francesco Haym) Partenope (1730, Silvio Stampiglio) Poro, re dell'Indie (1731, after Metastasio, same libretto as Hasse, "Cleofide") Radamisto (1720, Nicola Francesco Haym) Riccardo primo, re d'Inghilterra (1720, Rolli, after Briani) Rinaldo (1711, Rossi) Semele (1744, William Congreve) Serse (1738) Tamerlano (1724, Piovene Agostino (adapt. Nicola Francesco Haym) Teseo (1713, Nicola Francesco Haym) Now THAT is how you kill a thread! you think this is really a thread killer bjmarte? I am trying! - this was intended as a thread killer - believe me I have more if need be -

you don't know HSC, do you - she is above and beyond everything else (a wonderful friend) a devoted Sox fan who knows a great, great deal about baseball. Whatever the problem is, HSC is true Sox fan, upper tier there.

but HSC you have not answered the question: your favorite song from the Stones album Tattoo You so, what is everyone's favorite song from the Rolling Stones album Tattoo You? Songs from "Tattoo You" * BLACK LIMOUSINE * HEAVEN * LITTLE T & A * NEIGHBORS * NO USE IN CRYING * SLAVE * TOPS * WORRIED ABOUT YOU

LOL, sorry buddy, but it's clear that people on here talk about what they want, and it often strays from the original thread topic. so, what is everyone's favorite song from the Rolling Stones album Tattoo You? Songs from "Tattoo You" By The Rolling Stones: * BLACK LIMOUSINE * HEAVEN * LITTLE T & A * NEIGHBORS * NO USE IN CRYING * SLAVE * TOPS * WORRIED ABOUT YOU

what is a baseball discussion being posted for today? I am surprised at the signing too - why annouce no signing if you are going to sign - but it matters little, someone is going to play for the As and we might as well beat the best when we play them.

I'm the one who is going to get another tattoo - not sure about the piercing, I will leave that alone, I have enough, I think, with two. The question is which Sox logo will it be for the next tattoo, and will I put it on my left ankle with the others or put one on the right ankle - but if I do do that, I'll need to get another to balance the right ankle.

Funny, last week, Marshall and I were talking about the upcoming baseball season (he is such a Tiger fan) and he felt the same way about you. Mr. Mathers and I could not agree on which was Handel's best opera. My favorite is Serse (also known as Xerxes) but Em chose the usual one, Julius Ceasar (so jejune of him). To make it easier for the rest of you to join in, I will list them all with the librettist and hope we can have a meaningful discussion on this topic. Aci e Galatea (1718, John Gay) Admeto (first performance: Haymarket Theatre, London, 31 gennaio 1727) Agrippina (1708-09, V.Grimani) Alcina (1735, Antonio Marchi) Alessandro (1726 ?, Paolo Antonio Rolli) L’Allegro, il Penseroso e il Moderato (1740, Charles Jennens ) Almira (1705, Feutsking Friedrich Christian, after Giulio Pancieri) Amadigi di Gaula (1715, Nicola Francesco Haym) Ariodante (1735, by composer, after Salvi) Athalia (1733, Racine) Berenice (1737) Esther (1718 - John Arbuthnot and Alexander Pope ) Flavio (1723, Nicola Francesco Haym) Floridante (1721, Rolli, after Silvani) Giustino (1737, N.Beregani) Giulio Cesare in Egitto (1724, Nicola Haym) Hercules (1745, Thomas Broughton) Imeneo (1740, libretto adapted after Stampiglia) Jephta (1752) Judas Maccabaeus (1747, Morell, after Bible) Orlando (1733, G. Braccioli) Ottone (1723, Nicola Francesco Haym) Partenope (1730, Silvio Stampiglio) Poro, re dell'Indie (1731, after Metastasio, same libretto as Hasse, "Cleofide") Radamisto (1720, Nicola Francesco Haym) Riccardo primo, re d'Inghilterra (1720, Rolli, after Briani) Rinaldo (1711, Rossi) Semele (1744, William Congreve) Serse (1738) Tamerlano (1724, Piovene Agostino (adapt. Nicola Francesco Haym) Teseo (1713, Nicola Francesco Haym)

And thank you -- Junior rules. My avatar can - and will - beat up your avatar. Which makes no sense but neither does the way this thread is going. Since I followed Jeter when he was a Kal Central Maroon, can I delcare myself the winner here so this back and forth stuff can be ended? I've even lost track of who is mad at who here (and I don't care) but it is kind of pointlessly going on and on and on.

Please do not insult my favorite body part this way!

I will accept Steff's and Molto's interpretations. I did stay away from the park more than was seemly during the Bevington era but I just couldn't stand Bevington at all. I am the proud owner of an Albert Belle #8 shirt that the Hall of Fame store was selling for $5 to get rid of them. I wish I had bought a bunch. It is a great shirt to sleep in and one that I will never wear to the park, and good comfy Sox gear that I dedicate only to sleeping is hard to come by.