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And back at you with your bold faced lie. (I would have called it a different interpretation but since overwriting is the fashion, I am just going along at this moment. But I give you much credit; you do offer your thoughts and your opinions and enter into conversation despite the hyped "bold faced lie" hyperbole and actually being able to discuss is a far, far improvement from those who substitute sarcasm and smilies for thinking. We disagree but you do think. But why the overstatements? Why not an "I disagree rather than "bold faced lie'? Is being in someone's face what dialogue is about?) In economics nothing is "proved" and "demonstrated" as fact. It is all interpretation. And the interpretations that I follow include from thsoe who gave us the longest sustained growth in American history, beginning with the Clinton economic package passed in 1993 without one Republican vote, and gave us great budget surpluses and paydown of the national debt The interpretations that you follow come from thsoe who have given us the largest deficits in US history. Which they want to blame on September 11th but that is from the same people who began the rolling deficits prior to september 11th. And who lied (or "miscaluculated") by 150 billion or more the cost of their medicaid proposal, have missed by 100s of billions their prior estimates on the war's cost and refuse to put into the budget what the current ongoing war cost is because they want to do that off budget to hide their tremendous deficits which are at te 1/2 trillion stage and growing. Given the choice of who I follow, I will follow those who practiced fiscal prudence rather than those who are the biggest profilgate spending wastrals in world history.

aboz, you absolutely rock. I honor you.

seeing Al Gore speak at the Democratic convention... that good and decent man who received more votes than any other person in American history... that wise, compassionate, intellectually alive, brilliant and personable man of such courage... had he taken office, America would not be as divided as it it is now; had Gore taken office, he would not have been welded to ideology as Bush was: Bush who dismissed terrorism as a threat because his ideology called for Star Wars, Bush who set aside warnings on terrorism to pursue his only political bents. President Gore would have taken seriously the warnings on terrorism and not ignored them, If September 11th had happened, President Gore would not have sat still for seven minutes waiting to be told what to do and then fly around the country scared and frightened when the US needed its president - President Gore would have flown to DC and stood outside the Pentagon and said, "we are America, we shall not be intimidated, our vision and our commitment to justice and freedom will not be challenged by the violence of terrorists.." President Gore would have worked with the nations of the world in that moment when all the world was with us, to combat al qaeda, to strike at terrorists, and not disfuse our efforts and alienate our allies by confusing the real needs of this nation with the ideological goals of the near sect of ideologues that control the white house now. Under President Gore we would not have recession, or a jobless economy, or these historically largest ever and economically destructive deficits that will overwhelm our future. President Gore would not choose political stances that his pollsters told him he needed to play to his base as Bush has done with his dividing Americans by bogus constitutional proposals or refusing to meet with people who differ from him, as Bush has done. Gore would not have lost 1.8 million jobs, the vast majority of them manufacturing jobs, and make speeches to wealthy political donors, as Bush did, calling them "my base" which he defined as the "haves" and the "have mores" - for that lone Bush should be tossed - Gore would have understood that he was called to unite the people of the United States, not divide them. Gore would have understood what was happening in the world and responded with policies that make sense, bringing America to work with its allies rather than alienate them. Gore would not cause America to lose its status as the number one beacon of liberty and freedom and democracy in the world - as Bush has caused our image to be so tarnished and shamed by cowboy go it alone strategies. Gore would have appealed to our highest instincts and American values, not pandering to fear. Gore would have called us in the most difficult times to be true to ourselves, to be Americans, to not aside our Constitution and lock people away in camps in isolation in violation of the Geneva Conventions, in violation of the Constitution, endangering our own POWS, leaving people without information as to the charges against them, without contact with family or attorneys, and the horrors of the treatment of prisoners would not have happened and thus creating greater hostility and hatred and raise up new terrorists who hate us - Gore would have called us to live true to ourselves and show the world that we need not sacrifice one bit of what it means to be America - that it is indeed by being truest to our own American values that we are strongest and can deal with whatever confronts our nation. Gore would not lie about reasons to go to an elective war. Gore would take responsibility. Bush when asked to name any mistake he made, could not think of any and called that a "trick question." Gore would have been a president with humility, who would - unlike the current president - take responsibility for what happened under his watch. If the man the people elected, Al Gore, had taken office, America would be in a better place today, stronger, more secure, more respected, safer. Let the tired old jokes come. No, Al Gore never claimed he invented the internet but he did say that he wrote the first legislation which enabled it - which he did. Al Gore never claimed to have discovered Love Canal but he did claim to have had the first congressional hearing on it - which he did. Al Gore was elected by the people. Al Gore was the president we needed these past four years. In John Kerry we have the right candidate to undo all the things which Bush has done, to let America be America again, to act against terrorists, not against enemies of (poor) choice which lead us into quagmires rather than making America safer. John Kerry will bring America back to living as America and not as a rogue Rome which thinks it can dismiss the world with impunity with the greatest hubris seen in human history and how I fear the fall with another term of Bush. Bush must go, to save America from the path that we are going down now, unilateral isolationism and imperial arrogance disregarding the wisdom, counsel, insights, and support of our allies, let alone the Bush disregard for voices of our own people because they belong to the "wrong" party and are not among the "haves and the have more" (Bush's own words) I cried watching the President who was elected, Al Gore. I cry with hope knowing that the leader my nation needs, John Kerry, is gong to win this election because we will not waver in reaching out with the vision of a stronger America, a respected America, an America true itself as it has surely not been these past four years. Let America be America. The choice in this election is clear. For America to be the America of the Constitution, the America of the patriots' dreams that see beyond the years, the America of the Pledge of Allegiance of one nation with liberty and justice for all, if America is to be the America as good as its people, as honest as its people, with as much integrity as its people, the choice is clear: Kerry. We cannot allow the travesty of 2000 to repeat itself. It must be Kerry and Edwards. Now. More than ever.

oh but you did - just before your time! The "I can't count time outs" liar was so lucky that Ed Martin died when he did and there is no way Webber is ever welcomed back into this state - There are very bitter feelings here towards the way that whole thing happened. Never should have been allowed. Steve Fischer is another one on the never welcomed back list. But on the bright side, UM baseball gave us Jim Abbott!!!! Enjoy your summer! You might want to be get me tickets for the game at Champaign - last time I went, Michigan won, the Sox clinched, and I got very lucky buying tickets for the playoffs on UI computers and telehones! And between Illinois and the Sox, who would you rather see win????????????

students at your school actually know how to open and read books now? Illinois has come a long way since last year! [ducking for cover] just kididng!

Alex, it is because of jealousy of your good looks and unlimited intellience. And that is proven by the fact few are not smart enough nor good looking enough to be liberals!

indeed they do forget that, and a lot of our threads and posts reflect that. The human dimension is a part of the game and again I thank you for the reminder.

you are in charge in keeping the scorecard on this, make sure you have plenty of pages in the book!

good insight everyone is different and the manager has to ake the emotional make up of a person into account without knowing Cotts, I can only say that your insight is a reminder that these decisions are not all cut and dried and I deeply appreciate your bringing the reallife person back into the discussion

:fyou no, that came much, much, much later. It was the last time I had both my boys together at Comiskey. That is not something you forget. Little did we know then it would be the last time we were all together at Comiskey, or indeed, just about the last time we were all three together anywhere. Sox played the Tigers. Nancy was very good to us both days. Red Heat was being filmed at Comiskey that same time and Jim Belushi and Arnold Schwarzenegger were both at the park. Clips from that game appear on the bar in the tv at the end of the movie. My younger son insisted I buy him a Tigers hat. I fixed his ass. His son is my die hard Sox fan grandson.

Shove it! Did you see John Edwards running around the Senate the other day saying f*** You to everyone? That was Senator Edwards practicing being Vice Presidential.

The days when I can request songs is long over, hence the reference to the old old old old old days, before pizza races and ATM machine races between innings, when she actually played music between innings and didn't have all that pre recorded stuff to play for player intros. Her "set list" is almost established before she gets to the park. I agree those are some great song choices but to hear them now, your best bet is to write to her. I stopped giving her requests about 1987 (in fact it was in 1987 and why I remember that is personal); I realized it was getting to be an impsotion on her because of the changes in the nature of her job. But back in her first days ... when it was her in the outfield ... it was a different era in many ways from today' ball park experience.

back in the old old old old old days I'd stop at her booth and ask her to play certain songs between certain innings, I'd have a written list I'd leave with her - then sit in the left stand grand stand and bet people what Nancy might play... disclaimer: yes, I have known Nancy since forever in that she and I went to the same college of then about 1,100 students and in that she was and remains very close to one of my cousins, my favorite cousin... Nancy has been kind to three generations of my family at USCF which means she and we have been around a long time

why yes, you may!

personally, if I ever sit behind you, I will go see my old friend Nancy and ask her to play "The Victors" so I can stand and sing along and watch security drag your sorry ass out of there when you attack me!

I'd go along with this 100%

Two pieces of wisdom here. Every letter I write ends with "thank you" exactly for the reasons Jas and IlliniKrush state. You thank the person for reading and end with the hope they will be kind enough to reply.

I don't think swearing is the issue at all. I have said more than my share of "s***" and "f***" at USCF through the years. The problem is when a group of people (or an individual) is lound, continuous, obnoxious, unavoidable, unignorable, and graphically obscene that is an affront to adults who do not want to hear that type of s*** or to children. There is a huge difference between saying "oh f***" to yourself or a friend when something wrong happens compared to some one or ones being very public and making a spectacle of themselves with every vulgarity they know.

Since you haven't sent it out, delete the soxtalk reference and get the tips from MinnesotaSoxFan, we all need editors now and again -- I think it is good you asked for advice before you sent it.

You posted this before I could get to it - Cotts is young and still develeoping and things happen and he will get better. Jackson is washed up and on the down side of his career.

with this I agree and thank you Tex. Ross was not misrepresenting as I read it.

be glad the home plate ump didn't pull out a gun and shoot Trammel yesterday or Mariotti would have written a column

this movie will be no good nothing matched the first one ever for being something so totally new and stunning an audience with excitment and edge of the seat wonder nothing matches the first three in part because we all wondered, what happens next? we have known what happens next in these prequels, and especially in this one. Hayden Christiansen and Natalie Portman get it on. They have kids. Anakin Skywalker goes bad. Everything is bleak. It has to go that way to get to the first Star Wars movie. With no suspense, it will be a real feat to make this one worth watching.

Dan Pasqua has more posters named after him than he did fans when he played (other than when Pasqua was sharing the good stuff...) welcome to soxtalk