South Side Hit Men

2020 Ricky Renteria 35-25 .583 2021 Tony La Russa 93-69 .574 2022 Tony La Russa 81-81 .500 I actually felt for La Russa, was glad he turned his life around resigning to take care of his obvious health issues. Just not a good manager without a decade plus of Balco syringes and two HOF GMs. His legacy would be much stronger if he stayed retired in the FO and manager seat after 2012.

Yep, part of my point in the other thread. Crochet in the same boat. Romy a big loss due to his flexibility and superiority over players like Andrus or even Frazier. Not that it matter at this point with Sox sellers, but hope he can finish the season here, and return at least as a solid flexible reserve player who can adequately cover the middle infield and OF corners.

I think most here rooting against the Sox are primarily doing so hoping for wholesale changes with the FO if they finish with a 95-100+ loss season. I feel bad for the players who by and large deserve better, with one large exception.

Would have been epic if they blew it. Missed the game today, nice to see they hit well at least. Will be tough to win more than 2 next week, especially with two more bullpen games. Thank you Hahn.

I agree with just about all of this, including Hahn is the primary person responsible for this s%*# show. Some are arguing things I didn't say. What I said was: La Russa wasn't "run out of here". He had bad health issues, likely including continued alcoholism, and barely functioned as a human being his two years here until he was detoxed. The moves Hahn and La Russa made over the two years were bad. La Russa had a bigger role in these moves than a Ricky or Pedro. Hinch inherited a much shittier team two and a half seasons ago, and they are better at this point. Some of the reoccurring issues would have been corrected. Hinch's input would have been superior to signing guys who played for Tony in Saint Louis, Arizona or Anaheim.

And Eaton and Lynn among others. The entire thing was a disaster then, and the team is still feeling the effects today with nine figures committed to s%*# that would have been much better spent on others. Then again, it's Hahn spending, so there's that. Would have been nice if Hinch could have helped bring the Sox into the 21st century in terms of modern baseball ideas, player development, analytics. Instead we got Dave Duncan's son. They weren't "over" ,500, they were ,500 last year. Ricky had a much better record in 2020, and had a better playoffs in 2020. This gaslighting of the two years of La Russa is beyond laughable. You're like that clown Nightengale who wants to give Tony another HOF plaque. Tony La Russa is s%*#. Rick Hahn is s%*#. Jerry Reinsdorf is s%*#. Period.

Yes, that Thursday start vs. LH starter seemed to be a spark. It's a shame that ball didn't hit the pole yesterday. Just hope he keeps doing well for his sake, perhaps he can get traded to a better situation, though the Sox will be going into a multiyear tank if he does, which seems to be the direction the Sox will be going the final six months.

How are they going to get the win without going five? White Sox Baseball

Baltimore is through 22 innings this weekend and have scored 1 run. Not that the Sox deserve help at this point. Cheering for the Guardians or Detroit to win the division from here on out, barring a 22 game White Sox win streak to close out July.

I have been for shitcanning Hahn since 2015. Took a lot of s%*# here for being consistent throughout, even after his "executive of the "year"" bullshit. Same with "120 Games a Year Elite" Grandal's pathetic deal. That said, Hinch is a much better manager than either Tony or Pedro, and 2021 and beyond could have turned out much better with him in place. Question for you and Tony - I believe we all feel Pedro and Ricky had minimal input in roster construction. What do you feel Tony's role was in terms of acquisitions and trades? I contend a lot. Doesn't absolve Hahn for all the s%*# before and after, but Tony only exacerbated the bad decisions during his 2 years.

I'm talking about roster / off-season moves. Nobody knows for sure if Tony had lone decision making, but the garbage trades and signings of guys like Steak Dinner from Saint Louis, Jake Lamb from Arizona, Brian Goodwin from Tony's Anaheim days, horseshit "crafty veteran" types like Adam Eaton and playing Leury everyday, likely the guy who pushed his 3 year deal. Ricky and Pedro had/have no say. I don't believe a quality candidate like Hinch would have accepted a job here without a major voice in terms of roster decisions. Also think there would be far better communication between the manager / coaches / players and training staff, far better injury management, no lingering for several days unplayable before being placed on the IL. No cockamamie La Russa mismanagement of the development of both Kopech and Crochet, knowledge of the rule book, not the "old school book". Tony La Russa was drunk and senile, wanted to be the players grandpa, only held rookies accountable. Pedro is out of his element. Ricky held players accountable, but Hahn treated him as his personal b****, with Hahn's Game 3 Bullpen Game and subsequent s%*# canning him after extending him 60 games prior. Hinch on In Game Management: https://eu.freep.com/story/sports/mlb/tigers/2023/05/08/detroit-tigers-aj-hinch-matchups-winning-ways/70196955007/

I don't see this as how it went down. Tony clearly needed detox and or other treatments, looked and sounded like an actual functional human being for his long final press conference. Looked barely lucid and couldn't speak even for a minute or two pre/post game while managing. That said, he and Hahn made terrible moves together beyond the Liam signing. AJ Hinch inherited a 47-114 team from 2019 (after the 2020 fake 60 game owner scam), identified the bad players and malcontents. Into the third season, they already have passed the White Sox at the half way mark, and have a better future roster, despite the fact they have 2/3 of the payroll, with close to half going to Cabrera and Baez ($54M of $122M). Not saying the Sox would have won the World Series, but I am saying many of the reoccurring issues here would have been corrected or these players would have been traded, and there would have been much better off-seasons the past few years going with Hinch's input over signing guys Tony remembered from 10 years ago. The Sox likely would have had legitimate contention aspirations through this year and beyond with Hinch in charge vs. the Dinosaur and Crony Boy.

Attendance 9,235. Hoping the Sox draw under that next season after Jerry continues the road to dragging payroll under $120M, perhaps under $100M within the next few years.

Say it ain't so, Grifol.

The Oakland A's are clearly better than the Chicago White Sox. They were when Hahn's incompetence led to bullpen start in the final game of the 2020 Playoffs. They are when Hahn's incompetence has led to two bullpen starts and the precipice of being swept in Oakland, by the worst team in possibly a century. Fire Rick Hahn, NOW!

Sweep these clowns out of Oakland.

Rick Hahn is the most pathetic GM in sports. Not even close.

DFA Sheets NOW.

Andrus Fucks Up Sheets Falls Asleep Sox Lose

People here want Yoan gone. This is what you get in his place. A .100 hitter who can't field. Same as voters get the politicians they deserve.

He's not a catcher. He is a declining DH pretending to be a catcher.

F U Jabronis keeps the runner at 2nd without a threat.

Burger hasn't had a hit in weeks, and they burn Vaughn with an 0-2 count pinch runner. This is another Rick Hahn disaster.