South Side Hit Men
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He’s adequate at or not much above the minimum $700k salary.
He should grow into more power as he reaches his expected peak seasons.
Hahn Draft Career White Sox bWAR:
(Active, Highest Minors Reached if zero MLB time and retired)
Round One (30.8)
- 2013 Tim Anderson 18.2
- 2014 Carlos Rodon 11.2
- 2015 Carlson Fulmer -1.3
- 2016 Zach Burdi -0.6
- 2016 Zach Collins -1.0 +
- 2017 Jake Burger 0.8
- 2018 Nick Madrigal 1.7 #
- 2019 Andrew Vaughn 0.2
- 2020 Garrett Crochet 1.6
- 2021 Colson Montgomery (AA IL)
- 2022 Noah Schultz (IL TBD)
Round Two (0.2)
- 2013 Tyler Danish 0.0
- 2014 Spencer Adams (AAA)
- 2016 Alec Hansen (AA)
- 2017 Gavin Sheets 0.2
- 2018 Steele Walker 0.0 *
- 2019 Matt Thompson (AA)
- 2020 Jered Kelley (A+)
- 2021 Wes Kath (A+)
- 2022 Peyton Pallette (A)
Note*: Traded for Nomar Mazara -0.1.
Note +: Traded for Reese McGuire 0.0.
Note #: Traded with Codi Heuer 0.8 for Craig Kimbrel 0.0.-
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39 minutes ago, kitekrazy said:
I'd take Coop back with him.
Once again this was a manger that didn't pick his own staff. There's probably a reason why and experienced manager would not be interested.
No quality experienced person will come externally to fill any role of significance. Jerry is not willing to pay above the bare minimum to higher someone with experience, beyond 35 year BFF regrets.
La Russa and Renteria "one season with the Cubs rebuild" were the two managers Jerry hired with experience in the new stadium. Jerry never hired an experienced GM. The results are to be expected.
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The threads after Hahn won executive of the year were incredible.
Hahn extended than fired Ricky after 63 games, signed Parrot and Mazara, bid against himself for four years on the Keuchel and Grandal deals, and was down to two starting pitchers to pitch in Oakland after a grueling 60 game season.
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26 minutes ago, oldsox said:
Clevinger was okay today. Not lights out, but okay. He gave up an extra run because of two amateur throws by Benny and Timmy. I don't know why you want him to take the loss. Lopez was on the mound for the 9th inning.
Just don't like him on the team I'd like to root for. Nothing to do with on field performance.
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3 minutes ago, Chick Mercedes said:
Which is absurd that they will absolutely be running the show. Jerry doesn’t like being told what to do. Especially by fans and sportswriters. If you truly wanted him to sell, you’d tell him not to sell. Start a campaign to extend Rick Hahn’s and Kenny Williams’ contracts
Kenny William said he was done when his current deal is done. He is the only one of the three who aren’t full of s%*#, so I believe him.
Id wager it’s a good possibility Hahn got an extension after 2021, and will only remain or be promoted and remain until a new owner transfer period after Jerry is gone)
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1 hour ago, caulfield12 said:
Can just imagine Hawk Harrelson shouting at home if he hasn't already thrown in the towel.
90 MPH slider Liriano-esque there.
Hawks said on AJ’s Podcast Jerry’s word isn’t bond anymore with Brooks Boyer around and that he hopes the Sox could snag a wild card spot.
Said he still roots for the team, but he was crystal clear he has little confidence in this team, and reports last year were he thinks the front office is bad.
I don’t listen or follow games Clevinger pitches (was out with a friend anyway), wish he took the loss today.
Record remains the Sox have not won a series or consecutive games without Billy Hamilton.
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2020 was my favorite season of the Hahn era. The team gelled and played great together, there was a joy with that team. I was one of the few here who liked Ricky. He wasn’t the best manager by any means, but he steered the rebuild well, and I believe they could have won a few rounds if they had a third and or fourth starting pitcher.
2019 was my second. Went to the park a dozen ish times, loved the progress of the team, and could see the hope and progress on the horizon.
Was too busy working to follow closely (follow all the games) pre 2019, 2015 was the worst season in terms of douchebaggery and embarrassment, more so off the field than on.
Tony hire was disgusting, Clevinger kept the line moving.
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41 minutes ago, caulfield12 said:
2014-15 seems more like 15 years ago with how bad that KC organization has become…especially on the pitching front.
College students don't or barely remember 2005. All they will remember about the past decade are watching in horror as the Sox played mostly poor baseball in those atrocious 1983 uniforms.
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Come on Rick, sign Denise Solorzano and seal the deal!
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Just now, Big Hurtin said:
Glass houses and all, but ouch, that Oakland team has to be historical level bad. 😮
I hope the Nevada Legislature gives them the finger. f*** hundreds of millions for these pieces of s%*#.
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Just now, ScootsMcGoots said:
I mean, how many guys can you dfa lol. Lynn should be next. It will never happen but it should.
A 20 loss season is definitely a possibility if he doesn't walk away or shut himself down.
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2 minutes ago, Balta1701 said:
If Benintendi gets onto his usual self with a mid 700s OPS by the deadline, and you could move the last 4 years of his deal while eating $15 million or so (make it 4/$50 remaining), shouldn’t you do that?
You need to eat $26.2M per MLB Trade Values, and I think that's a generous figure.
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Lucas bailed out his pathetic teammates from leaving Kansas City in last in the worst division in all of sports,
Updated MLB Run Differential
- 28th Kansas City -53 (11-27)
- 29th Chicago A. L. -67 (13-25)
- 30th Oakland -142 (8-30)
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16 minutes ago, fathom said:
Funny thing is people on the Sox used to say Robert prepares more than anyone
Very possible this remains a true statement.
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24 minutes ago, Greg Hibbard said:
Anderson seems like he’s really slumping, more than a usual cold spell. I wonder if his babip magic is finally catching up with him.
More like his Baby Mama magic has caught up with him.
2 minutes ago, Harry Chappas said:We can hate on Hahn for poor roster construction but in the end its like Fathom pointed whoever is responsible for organizational development needs to go.
How does Cease and Lynn all of a sudden become DFA candidates and every single player regress except Vaughn.
Organizational Baseball Development falls under Rick Hahn's responsibilities.
Need to start from Ground Zero with the team, perhaps keep a few people like Paddy.
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2 minutes ago, 2Deep said:
Did he ever had any....
He did, all things relative.
Benintendi Slugging %:
- .476 2016 Boston
- .425 2017
- .465 2018
- .431 2019
- .128 2020 (14 Games)
- .442 2021 Kansas City
- .398 2022
- .404 2022 New York
- .315 2023 White Sox
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More entertaining than watching Lynn pitch.
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12 minutes ago, fathom said:
Katz should be so proud of how his guys are looking
Not sure on how Hahn’s impetuous mid season extension of Lynn is Katz’ fault.
Nobody on Earth could fix guys after their best by date, be it Lynn or Keuchel, Colome or Diekman, etc., etc..
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Jake Burger has played with the White Sox the previous two seasons, including 51 games last season. Hard to call him AAA Depth, especially when he was arguably better than a good portion of the Opening Day Roster.
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16 minutes ago, The Mighty Mite said:
It looks like Jose might be reaching the end of the road but he’s had awful starts before but not sure as bad as this year. He only hit 15 homers last year and none this year so it looks like he has lost some power. The other thing is there has always been a question about his age, he might be a couple of years older than stated in his bio.
Hahn and Jerry showed Abreu zero gratitude or respect while the season ended last year. They should have had a Jose Abreu Day his final game. Instead he watched them get their asses handed to them 10-1 on his final day as a White Sox. The only Sox receiving MVP chants this season has been Adam Haseley.
The Sox pissed away far more than a $40M/2 year offer he likely would have at least considered to stay, including the $75M they committed to Benintendi, and several other players during their "multiple championship window." It would be one thing if this team was built to legitimately contend this season (or any under Hahn), but they had no intentions to field a competitive team with the several perennial glaring holes they bring back year after year after year.
Jose is a fan favorite, an MVP and one of the few who gave a s%*# since Ricky was fired, including the worthless front office. He will always be fan's MVP!
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A day without Billy Hamilton is like a day without sunshine. Find it hard to conceive his legs and hamstrings are capable of being injured.
2023 Winning Streaks without Billy Hamilton: Zero
2023 Series Wins without Billy Hamilton: Zero
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7 hours ago, South Sider said:
Gio looked like he was pitching with a purpose. Show these idiots in our FO/ownership a thing I guess.
Funny, the clown posting "Lu Puss" last season is nowhere to be seen.
Lucas Giolito is ranked as the 10th best starter (fWAR) across The MLB (2019-2023), and assuming he remains healthy is going to get paid this offseason.
Hahn will have another significant hole on the roster.
- 1. Z. Wheeler 19.4
- 2. G. Cole 19.0
- 3. J. deGrom 18.0
- 4. M. Scherzer 18.0
- 5. S. Bieber 17.2
- 6. A. Nola 16.9
- 7. L. Castillo 15.7
- 8. K, Gausman 14.7
- 9. L. Lynn 14.6 (8.2 Texas 2019-2020)
- 10. L. Giolito 14.1
- 14. M. Fried 13.8
- 17. C. Kershaw 13.1
- 19. J. Verlander 12.4
- 20. W. Buehler 12.1
- 21. C. Rodon 12.1 (6.2 San Francisco 2022)
- 28. M. Stroman 10.3
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Fire Rick Hahn
in Pale Hose Talk
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No he doesn’t.