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QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Aug 20, 2010 -> 12:06 AM) Maybe we can find Ozzie a new career as an NFL head coach? Or at least in the NL where his managerial style is most suited, I wouldn't be surprised if he had success there at all. Unfortunately, there's no way for us to change to the NL, as close as Selig and JR are. If I'm not mistaken, this is the first year of the Ozzie era we've played NL ball. We've generally had plodders who run station to station and hit a lot of home runs. I would suspect after this season we'll go back to long ball emphasis with a batch of Beckham, Rios and Flowers doubles thrown in there.

Baseball is a funny game. I'm not saying it will happen, but it would be so funny if we were to sweep KC and Minnesota, flying high after beating us 7 of the last 10, loses the next 3. If the shoe were on the other foot, I could see that happening. Had the Sox won seven of 10 vs. Minnie and had a four-game lead, we promptly lose all 3 to KC and they sweep. Something freaky like that would be right up the Sox alley. So why not have it reversed? That would be sooo cool.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Aug 20, 2010 -> 02:51 AM) This game was so huge. For the moment, I think the season was saved. A sweep and it would've been a wrap. We gotta take care of business against the Royals. QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 20, 2010 -> 02:55 AM) I know I keep piling on but 21 hits and Kotsay with an 0-fer. Keep starting him Ozzie. *shakes head* Amen to the first post! Didn't Kotsay go 3-for-5 with two ribbies and two runs scored just a couple days ago? How come I was pretty much told to quit beating a dead horse and mentioning Jenks a couple weeks ago, yet this Kotsay stuff goes on and on and on. People told me they very well know my position on Jenks. Well we know your position on Kotsay. Kotsay sucks. He is pure horses***. He should not be on the roster. Pretty much everyone on Soxtalk including me does not want him on the team. Do you ever tire of writing this? I stopped on Jenks to give people a f***ing break but this Kotsay stuff is a f***ing broken record and won't stop. He stinks. We know already!!!! He also isn't going anywhere the rest of this season unless he gets hurt. He won't be on the team next year. Fast forward to then if you would.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 19, 2010 -> 08:39 PM) Just because it's something no manager would ever do doesn't mean it's not the right thing to do to win a game. Managers in all sports tend to be conservative and not go outside of the classic game box...because if they go outside the box and it fails, they get blamed...but if they do what has been done for 75 years and it fails, they won't get blamed because that's what everyone else does. So ... what manager do you want to go outside of the classic game box? LaRussa and his batting the pitcher eighth is really innovative and has really helped them win pennants. I mean because Kotsay is up in the fifth inning and we all hate Kotsay, Oz should do what no manager in baseball would consider ... pinch hitting for a starter halfway through a game. This Kotsay stuff is so old. He goes 3-for-5 the other day with two ribbies and two runs scored and the venom was worse than ever on him even that night.

QUOTE (WinorDie88 @ Aug 20, 2010 -> 02:38 AM) I'm sorry, but in the first game, there were two terrible managerial decisions made. Letting Kotsay hit vs a LHP in the 5th, and keeping Thornton in for a 3rd inning.. No manager in baseball pinch hits for a starter in the fifth inning. Give me a break. Blame Gavin for pitching like s***.

QUOTE (The Ginger Kid @ Aug 20, 2010 -> 02:46 AM) HUGE lift - on to KC to beat their AAA squad. QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 20, 2010 -> 02:51 AM) No DeJesus, Guillen or Pods. Do they have anyone left that can hit? QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 20, 2010 -> 02:57 AM) Anything but a sweep would be a major failure. Get ready for a major failure then. The Royals split with the Yankees in a 4-game set last weekend in KC. Yes split. And KC took 2 of 3 from the Tribe. Actually the team has been playing well of late, kind of like when we went into Baltimore. 2 of 3 would be very nice. 3 would be awesome. Losing all 3 would be not good. Losing 2 would be major buzzkill.

What kind of tactician do you want? I see on here in some game threads people want pinch hitters in the fifth f***ing inning. People want to pull our established starters in the fourth or fifth. No manager does such a thing. People want to bring in relievers for lefty/righty matchups and start that parade with one out in the sixth inning. Sometimes even in the fifth. It's one thing if you want to blame Guillen for the Thome/Kotsay mess and the theory behind smallball of this year's team and his lineups which some people think would magically get better if some other guy was manager. It's another when you say you want a "tactician" yet the technical things people ask for in game threads are just silly, things no manager would ever do. This guy has used Jenks, Putz and Thornton late and they've all failed to some degree. What tactics do you want??

We should all give our predictions every night. That way later we can get praised or blasted. Mine: Minnesota 11, Chicago 3. Not sure what I'll predict for the KC series. That's a series we should really truly should win, if not sweep.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 19, 2010 -> 09:24 PM) It's the devil you know versus the devil you don't. What are the odds that there is a great motivator of men and tactician of baseball sitting around undiscovered on some other team's roster awaiting plucking? The Royals found a great one in Trey Hillman. And now they have the mighty Ned Yost. These managers are all the same. But a new face will give fans somebody new to b**** about at least.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 19, 2010 -> 09:04 PM) It sure is. He/she will most likely realize we play in a launching pad and not Petco Park and try to use that to our advantage. I thought this year was the first year we went to the speed thing. In his whole tenure, we've just been a plodding home run hitting club. People b****ed mightily about the station to station thing, now they are b****ing about the bunting and the NL speed thing. And this experiment won't last long considering our 1-2 in the order have been Pierre and Omar, who are not long term solutions to anything. It has been nice to see guys go from first to third on singles this year, but we're still not winning anything of significance.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 19, 2010 -> 09:06 PM) Greg, it was a facetious comment made towards the poster whom he quoted, when he said along the lines of "I hope everyone who loves the Twins goes down on the plane with them when it inevitably crashes." It may have been a bit over the top, but the initial statement wasn't better and is arguably questioning the level of allegiance these fans have to the White Sox. Just because White Sox fans are critical of the team and are generally snarky and sarcastic and pissed off when the Sox lose doesn't mean they suddenly aren't fans of the team and are fans of the Twins. OK. Like Caufield, the topic kind of creeped me out, though, and made me think the board had hit a new low. Fair enough.

QUOTE (bmags @ Aug 19, 2010 -> 02:34 PM) COol, i hope you die in a car crash on the way to work! FUn? This board is beyond hope.

It's going to be neat when we do get a new manager. I'm going to enjoy all the criticism of the new guy cause there will be criticism ... every single game. People on here have it down pat. You must agree the new manager will be criticized daily as well, don' t you? Ozzie wouldn't play Thome every game.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Aug 19, 2010 -> 08:30 PM) How would you manage the bullpen they way they are performing other than use Thornton and a rookie? Considering Jenks health, a bullpen arm at the trade deadline would help more than another bat. Who knows, the rookie might end up being the closer this season. Amazing how Coop always gets a free pass. The manager is and always will be the easiest target. They can be blamed for stuff in victories (and always are on here; people ranted daily about him playing Kotsay even in the 25-5 stretch) and of course in losses. My question is: OK, guys. Jim Thome is available after this season. Do you want him back?

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Aug 19, 2010 -> 08:22 PM) But they did in game 163. Yeah that was awesome. I agree. But we lose that game in Minnesota. We barely won it in the Cell. But I'll take it.

QUOTE (Greg Hibbard @ Aug 19, 2010 -> 01:54 PM) The Twins have made a couple of stupid plays this series - one of them was Kubel inexplicably trying to stretch a single into a double last night and running into the second out with a man on third. Liriano also tried to start an impossible double play with a clear out at home. Exactly right. We didn't win the game but they made some bonehead plays that had me thinking we SHOULD win. Baltimore had some really bad plays as well. And the O's kicked our ass.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Aug 19, 2010 -> 04:50 PM) If the Twins make the playoffs and the Sox don't, as much as I hate the Twins, I think I'm gonna have to root for them just so Jim Thome can finally win that ring that Joe Table cost him back in the 90s. I want to win it so maybe teams will get fired up when they play them and regular pounding of us might end.

We have to play them three more after tonight? So even if we got back into it somehow the Thomes again would knock us back to earth. Amazing.

It amazes me the Twins never have a letdown against us. You'd think at some point they are the super heavy favorites in any meeting with the Sox and let down. I don't see it happening. Twins roll tonight to complete an amazing 8-2 run against us and our bizarre season is all but over at 6 back.

The workplace in America in many lines of work would be a much better place if we had people like Ozzie Guillen willing to speak their minds and not kiss ass to all the higher-ups. There's way too much buttkissing in the workplace. Fans are big boys/girls. They should be able to take Ozzie calling them out for their fan rants, which often are as stupid as his own. The workplace today is full of kiss ass employees who are taking businesses down with them. Go Ozzie! Just because a majority of workers are afraid to speak their minds doesn't mean Oz is wrong for doing so. Ozzie rules!

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Aug 19, 2010 -> 03:41 AM) If it wasn't for the NL cherry picking, we would of been long gone a while back. The first two months of doing nothing and our inability to beat our division and bad teams outside of the NL is why we are here. We basically have handed this over without a whimper or a fight. We had our chances to stay close to Minnesota by splitting that first four gamer in Minnesota (yes, yes, Jenks cost us that split of a series), then we had a great chance to gain revenge in Chicago. It's our ballpark where we've played well. Could we sweep? Not quite, how about one lousy win of three. That set the tone for this sweep in Minnesota. Our only hope is after tomorrow's loss that Minnie has a horses*** September and we get our act together. I know we Sox fans wouldn't be thinking we had anything won if we were 6 up after tomorrow. The Twins still could implode. Very unlikely, however

QUOTE (Middle Buffalo @ Aug 19, 2010 -> 04:21 AM) If we win tomorrow, we're 4 games back. The Twins have won 9 of their last 10, while we've lost 8 of 10. They won't stay that hot, and we won't stay this cold. It's not over, people need to relax. Uh, if you think we are gonna maybe win tomorrow, I've got some land in upper Mongolia I'd like to interest you in. This week was dubbed party week in Minnesota a while ago. They are putting us away this week.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 18, 2010 -> 10:41 PM) Frankly the only one responsible for that is greg775. This is why we're taught as kids not to play on the train tracks, and you don't get mad at the conductor later after the train runs you over. Different people tried in different ways to tell you this but you weren't trying to hear it. Just like you said, it was annoying... right? So... yeah. I'm being quiet about it, the exact opposite of what you were doing. What's there to say? Putz sucked. You want me to say more? Why? For the same reason people talk about Kotsay and Ozzie ad nauseum. It all gets beaten to death, not just the Jenks topic.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 18, 2010 -> 10:46 PM) From Cowley twitter "Oz to Sox fans crying about Thome: "Don't like it that Thome isn't here? Good, don't watch the f------ White Sox." LOL. I LOVE the way Ozzie fights back at the fans. I love when managers mix it up with the fans. Fans get the right to say whatever they want on here, on postgame shows, on twitter. I think it's great when they slam it right back. Back to you, fans. Now it's your turn again.

QUOTE (Brian @ Aug 18, 2010 -> 10:44 PM) What he say? I'm sure he said, "We stand no chance. The season is over." Or whatever he said can be construed as that. Fathom I really hope you get your wish and we get rid of Ozzie so you can relax or move on to something else. I would wish that for you. I'd gladly give up my worship of Ozzie so you can finally be rid of him. I wish I could make it happen for you. And I'm being sincere about that. I'll gladly take a new manager, cause I don't think they have much affect either way, unless they are Bevington-ish. Totally clueless individuals who come across as mean pricks.