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I figured teams will be warned before the start of the Minnie series. So our starter would be gone. But I would have no problem with Linebrink plunking a Twin in the butt with a pitch. But he'll be suspended a week or so.

I will root for Teahen tonight. I also like his personality. By all accounts he's a great guy. Hope he goes 3-for-4 with 3 ribbies and we win. I won't dwell on my dislike for his game, but since he returned today and he's in the lineup and Bolt indicated he liked him, it's topical.

Bolt aside from his personality, what do you like about Mark? He is a butcher in right field which you all will soon see. He's a butcher at third. He strikes out, doesn't believe in walking and is simply a mediocre player IMO. I admit he does have great personality.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Aug 13, 2010 -> 09:24 PM) We have BEEN hit 55 times (2nd MOST in baseball) We have HIT someone 24 times (2nd LEAST in baseball) QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Aug 13, 2010 -> 09:25 PM) Not saying it's a conspiracy that we get hit, but I am saying it seems like we never retaliate against teams for hitting us. With all due respect, who cares? Next time Linebrink comes in against a Twin, order him to plunk somebody. His suspension won't matter. Oz will get suspended too and many will be happy about that. This is all on Linebrink. He has to be our designated fall guy for hitting people. Or Bobby so the Bobby haters will be happy to see him suspended as well. A starter CANNOT plunk a Twin on purpose or He Gawn from the game baby.

QUOTE (NorthSideSox72 @ Aug 13, 2010 -> 08:56 PM) Seriously, he's played a bunch lately, gotten HBP a few times, had a couple plays running out hits at first where he hit the ground... this is just a day off for him. I figured he must be banged up. Love him or hate him, we desperately need his stick. He hit that big homer the other day. Am I a bad fan for not liking the 1-2 punch of Pierre/Omar despite the stats pointed out to me they both are great?

Please post it when we hear the word CQ is nicked up. Cause he has to play every day. Teahen blah. Kotsay blah. Pierre and Omar may be OK but they aren't the kind of guys you write home about.

Quentin must be hurt. No time of year to be "resting" him. Is he nicked again?

I guess I'd rather see him out there than Kotsay or Jones, but I still don't think that's saying much. Maybe he'll embrace his first pennant race and get key hit after key hit, but I've always thought of him as blah, dating to his KC days.

I can be negative at times, but I hope to think I am also the type of fan Rock writes about. Great piece, Rock! I don't see how anybody can attack that last post of Rock. It was beautifully done. Perfect ending. ... "Maybe you feel like negative energy is all part of being a fan of a team and investing yourself in the outcome, but to me, thats just wasted energy and I choose to not take part in it. If you think thats me thinking too much of myself, thats a flaw that I can live with." Game, set match to Rock.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Aug 13, 2010 -> 06:04 PM) Alright, now I would like to see more Teahen and less A Jones and Kotsay. That could be because Teahen's been gone for so long you forgot how mediocre a player he is. I think he should be grouped with Jones/Kotsay as blah, not emerging as a better option than those 2.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Aug 13, 2010 -> 08:17 PM) Well, lack of offense, including from the DH spot, was a big reason for our slump early in the season. You're right there's plenty of reasons. That doesn't mean we should ignore them all. I was responding to the person who said if we lose by 1-2 games we'll know the sole reason. Kotsay playing for us; Thome for them. And I still fully expect Thome to do more damage against the Sox this season.

I'll turn it off when Juan comes to bat. Cause he's doing his RBI work when I'm not watching. When I watch he hits a weak fly ball or tapper to the right side.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 13, 2010 -> 08:10 PM) So we let teams hit our batters or ram over our catcher whenever they feel like it and lose the game. That's got to be great for team morale. Oh and then have your skipper shower that opponent with compliments. All this stuff is bogus if we just play well enough to win. I agree we have to play with playoff intensity more often against teams in our own division, though. Just play hard and win.

Not when I'm watching. Good for Juan that he's doing it in games I'm not watching.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Aug 13, 2010 -> 07:14 PM) In a sick sort of way, atleast the Sox know what they did wrong if they lose this division by 1-2 games. There won't be a myriad of reasons as there were in 2006 - it will be because Mark Kotsay was the DH for the White Sox and Jim Thome was playing for the Twins. Wait a minute, I thought there were several who said Jenks' blowing the save in Minnesota put us on a downward spiral we couldn't come back from. He's the reason we won't win it. I thought some said Peavy getting hurt was the reason we won't win it. Kotsay/Thome isn't the reason the team was pathetic the first 2 months. We just got blown out in two of three home games against Minnesota. Kotsay/Thome wasn't the sole reason. There are plenty of reasons we won't win the division.

QUOTE (Chet Kincaid @ Aug 13, 2010 -> 05:58 PM) After last night it's hard to get excited. Section 526 was FULL of twins fans. That was hands down the worst game that I have ever been to. But with that being said, I want a serious ass whuppin tonight. And if one of our batters get hit, I wanna hit 2 of theirs. This s*** has to stop. Let's beat Detroit's ass, then go up to Minny with a chip on our shoulder. This "respect" for the twins and Gardenhire is starting to get out of hand. If a bench clearing brawl is what it'll take to ignite this team, then so be it. I'm tired of the White Sox getting punked out. The retaliation stuff is growing old. Hit the damn ball, pitch it and blow them out on the field. A brawl would be very stupid and I don't understand why people are starting to talk about brawling. Teams in our division thrive on beating us; we do need to be more intense in these games, but brawling is not the answer to anything except getting a few guys hurt. p.s. I'm sick of seeing Juan Pierre come up with men on base.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 13, 2010 -> 05:10 PM) How many times do we have to see another team push us around? We come off as a bunch of pansies. We come across as pansies because we can't win the f***ing game. It has nothing to do with not retaliating. If we beat them on the field, we look good.

I edited my post as I looked up some stuff. He has no walks in 82 plate appearances. 15 K's before tonight. I wonder how he's going to learn plate discipline. If he gets 600 at bats, my god just the law of averages will have him hitting .250 or less because nobody can hit for average if they don't ever walk. Can you learn such a thing?

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Aug 13, 2010 -> 05:55 AM) BS. If we get any kind of a clutch hit, and don't make stupid mistakes, we win this game. Between not covering second, the balk, the wild pitch, and getting the bases loaded three times with less than two outs and managing a dink RBI, we buried ourselves. Productive outs and intelligence wins this game. It definitely was a bad night to play a s***ty game. You'd think after they took 3 of 4 from us in Minnie we'd at least win the series here if we are contenders, not pretenders. I'd like to bury us, but you can't in baseball. Anything can still happen, though I'd agree as of tonight I'd give us a f***ing F for performance this game and this series. It was a flop.

QUOTE (kitekrazy @ Aug 13, 2010 -> 04:39 AM) The Sox use to out homer a lot of teams but what good are they when no one is on. They don't need more power. They need to score runs when the bases are loaded with no outs. This team lacks situational hitting. It seems there is nothing going on between the ears of this lineup when they are up to the plate other than trying to kill the baseball. Blowing so many opportunities at home tonight in such a big game is kind of alarming. It'd be easy to give up on this team and say the Twins have proven they are simply a better team ... but we all know baseball is a f***ing strange game. Even though they've wiped us up, we're still in the race. BTW, that was a s***ty at bat by Pierre when we needed him to come through, down 3-1. Nice weak pop to center. And Lexi promptly failed as well.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Aug 13, 2010 -> 03:48 AM) It's hard to argue with any roster move that frees up more playing time for Mark Kotsay. Seriously though here's hoping he can learn to take a walk. Wow Dayan was 0 for his last 15 and 1 for his last 19 since going 8-for-14. For the year he has 0 walks. He had 15 K's entering tonight's game; dont' know how many times he K'd. Lousy run for Viciedo.

I hate Joe Mauer, only because he's so good. Damn, he's a good baseball player.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Aug 13, 2010 -> 03:36 AM) I'm pretty resigned to the Twins being the better team, right now. Our pitching advantage is mitigated by their vast offensive advantage over us. Not to mention the fact that their manager is not a moron. All their fans thought their manager was a moron when they were blowing the 9.5 game lead versus the Sox. Easy to be frustrated and overreact tonight. We have totally faceplanted against Minnesota again. 3 of 4 in Minnie and 2 of 3 in Chicago. What a joke. I still say we have the wrong attitude against teams in our division. They are out to prove a point when they play us, the biggest and best city in the division with a WS under our belt. We play like chumps and get beat a lot by teams in our division not named Detroit. They play their best against us and we play normal to s***ty baseball, no extra emphasis at all on our divisional foes. Their manager is the same guy who faceplants every postseason the team makes. If we made the postseason as much as they did and faceplanted as much as they do, you'd all bury our manager for all those early exits. Hopefully we can bounce back from two horrific series vs. the Twins.

QUOTE (knightni @ Aug 12, 2010 -> 07:16 PM) I'm still not happy with Brandon Allen for Tony Pena. I've never understood the Pena love on this board. How is Allen still in the minors at Reno? He has 21 homers and 72 S ribbies. WTF? Shouldn't he be in the bigs?

Part time DH might be OK but I'm of the opinion Oz will ride Kotsay all the way to the finish line this year. When he played him both ends of the DH and again the next day I got over it. He's playing against all righties all the time and maybe a lefty or two, as well, if Jones is hurt. It's easier to just accept it, for me at least. I don't know what he's going to do with Teahen. Probably move him back to third which would bring us back to the April/May White Sox.