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Swisher didn't work out in Chicago, case closed. He played like a total bum. Who cares how he's done in NY? For whatever reason he was totally worthless in Chicago and had to go. Good riddance.

Kotsay has to be the most popular name in soxtalk history. Lot of interest regarding Kotsay. Hope he gets 3 hits; we made need 'em all.

QUOTE (lostfan @ Aug 7, 2010 -> 03:28 PM) Bored with the inevitable holier-than-thou posts that always pop uup, and the "how dare you criticize player x what kind of fam are you, they're winning" posts. I don't see many holier than thou posts on here. The few that pop up are much better than the constant negativity on the site this season. As far as your "how dare you criticize a player?" where have you seen those posts? Players are getting bashed on here all the time. I praise Jenks constantly but never say "how dare you criticize him." Only guys that don't get bashed at all are Rios and Castro. Maybe Putz and Thornton as well. I still say a split would be OK in this series. I'd love 3 of 4 but the odds of that are very slim right now after dropping Game One. Again, don't we normally play s*** vs. Baltimore? I just hope the Sox play with fire every night because with our lineup, no game is a given.

Yu mean bored with his optimism?? Somebody wanting to see the bright side or ? Not sure what you mean, but I get "bored" with all the negativity and find a positive thread refreshing.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 7, 2010 -> 06:35 AM) Give me a break. Buck Showalter is a tool and the Orioles are a bad major league baseball team. Reinvigorated? They scored two runs in 10 innings. Unfortunately, we could only muster one. We flat out blew this one. Nothing on the road ever comes easy. I'll be happy with a split of any series, though 3 of 4 here would be nice. Don't we typically suck against the O's? As far as the first post, this board has been on the rag pretty much all season. I don't get it, but it is a very very negative place to be for the most part. Much nastier this season than last. Again, I really don't understand it. Game threads of course are the nastiest, but even those are much more vicious this season. Not complaining, just stating how I see it. Wonder if Rongey's postgame has been more vicious this season than the past.

Hudson with another excellent start. Hope Jackson keeps pitching well for many years to come cause Hudson is good, folks.

Oops Hudson with another very strong start tonight.

QUOTE (J.Reedfan8 @ Aug 7, 2010 -> 04:52 AM) Well... he would be Bobby Jenks. Don't understand. Explain?

Don't know. Figure I better tread lightly for awhile as I'm still shell shocked from the Jenks Mt. St. Helens situation.

I agree that's a tough spot for a ML debut. On the other hand, it was the O's and a small crowd. In hindsight, totally the wrong call by Oz; shoulda waited til we were up 5-1 in a game or down 5-1 cause he wet the bed.

That's why I was asking and not stating. I wonder if he's worth the money or just an average guy. Maybe he's a one-inning guy. What is he?

I know there's no such thing as a jinx, but I felt badly about this game when somebody said they'd be disappointed if we didn't sweep the 4 game series. Hope this is a good wakeup call to the Sox if for some reason they "took Baltimore lightly." Lot of horrid at bats tonight.

That four pitch walk was not good. Feel sorry for him, but he was facing the lousy O's with not a huge crowd. It's not like he should have been THAT nervous, but s*** happens, especially in ML debuts. Get em next time, Sale.

QUOTE (fathom @ Aug 7, 2010 -> 03:04 AM) I have no idea why Ozzie played Lillibridge the whole game. Terrible game all-around. I thought most of us now were in love with Lillibridge? Isn't Juan Pierre a huge goat in this game? Cmon vet ... little hit against a horrible O's team. CQ's double play also was horrid. Should we have bunted the runner over? Hmmm

QUOTE (longshot7 @ Aug 7, 2010 -> 03:19 AM) That's what Rongey is saying in the post-game. Is Tony Pena one very mediocre pitcher? Is he worth the money he gets? That's all I'm asking at this time.

QUOTE (Jerksticks @ Aug 6, 2010 -> 03:38 PM) Well, you know how we've been playing teams at the right time lately? Quite the opposite here as the Orioles are RED HOT, having won 3 games in a row. They've swept Texas, Boston, Washington and now the Angels this season, while losing pretty much every other game; I think never winning more than 4 in a row at any point. So with the new manager, this current stretch is in the running for their most inspired ball all year. Bergesen sucks against any team above average, but he did limit the Podsless Royals to 2 runs over 7 innings last time out; arguably one of his better starts all year. According to ESPN, 0% of people have him on their fantasy team. The only argument for them winning this game is the new Showalter effect; not skill, reputation or fundamentals. The Orioles are hot, plus isn't this another one of those teams we usually have trouble with? I'd say 3 of 4 is the goal. Can we get it? Nothing's guaranteed. Why is this a four game set starting on a Friday?

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 6, 2010 -> 07:23 PM) Indeed. Why is this so hard for so many to understand? I thought everybody recognized that. It seems this board is 100 percent unanimous Kotsay should be out. That's why it grows old to read about him in every single thread. Kotsay sucks. We know. Oz will still play him and KW will still keep him. We know. People that want Kotsay out usually add that they want Viciedo in.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 6, 2010 -> 02:46 PM) Even though Teahen will be back? You know this how? Cause he's been playing every game against righties and just had his best game of the season, which he can ride for at least the next 3 weeks. But obviously I don't know it for sure, just my best guess.

QUOTE (iamshack @ Aug 6, 2010 -> 06:30 AM) Oh it's hard to be angry at Mark personally...it's not like he's trying to hit .218... Ozzie is the one who keeps throwing him out there in a position to fail. Thing is, he's gonna start every game the rest of the season against righties. He just is. We're going to be reading the same tired complaints on here for seven more weeks. He's going nowhere. That's why I'm hoping he somehow takes today and has the best 7 weeks of his life cause he's gonna be playing almost every day.

QUOTE (Paint it Black @ Aug 6, 2010 -> 04:35 AM) Someone has forgotten about the 1-2-3 outings Jenks has had since that awful Twins loss. Also, apparently it's Ozzie's fault that the White Sox finally got to play the weak part of their schedule. Doesn't Ozzie get credit for believing in this team the whole year, when people like you were proclaiming the team dead and vowed to not watch another pitch this season? Ozzie manages the pen almost as good as any manager in baseball. That's not just my opinion either, but that of many scouts and people actually in baseball. If this was twitter, I'd make this a retweet. Go Sox!

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Aug 6, 2010 -> 05:18 AM) I HATE YOU BASEBALL TONIGHT. Ravech: Mark Kotsay! He's the kind of play who helps you win divisions. Winfield: Yes he is. He doesn't play everyday but he can play first and the outfield and is very productive. Also, apparently we need to get our bullpen some help??? I dislike Kotsay as well. But look at the bright side. What if he is getting hot? It would be the right time, woudn't it? He definitely sparked the team today, preventing a difficult loss. We'd have split with the struggling Tigers, rather than bagging an impressive 3 of 4 against a division rival on the road. 3 of 4 is pretty damn nice, thanks in large part to Kotsay. I'm just sayin' ... maybe he'll get hot?

Dream on, baby. Good post.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Aug 5, 2010 -> 11:48 PM) This might be the best time for Mark to ride off into the sunset and retire. At this stage in his career will we ever see a game like this from him again? That's not how athletes think. I bet he and the Sox are thinking this is the start of something big for him, a big hot streak. It might be the best time, but no way is he thinking that way. He just started both ends of a DH followed by starting again. He's going nowhere obviously.

Love the posts on here praising Kotsay. Shows soxtalk is not full of a bunch of ingrates. Konerko witih two more hits as well as Pierre. Just three guys with multi hit games. Kotsay's four RBIs really stand out. We win.

QUOTE (JohnCangelosi @ Aug 5, 2010 -> 07:49 PM) 4 years now. Great times out here! QUOTE (hawksox13 @ Aug 5, 2010 -> 09:30 PM) Mark Kotsay flat out won a ball game for the Sox. You have to give the man credit today. Too bad Ozzie will now give him credit today...and tomorrow...and the day after....and the day after that.... Just read the thread, glad to see soxtalkers giving Kotsay the deserved love today. Most people praised him greatly. I had to laugh at this post: "ANY chance in HELL the White Sox can respond the same way the Twins did against the Rays? I say 0%... Miggy leading off the next inning...they should just put Linebrink in and make it pretty automatic." The Sox responded exactly as the Twins did. Good job Sox!