greg775

Does anyone truly believe either of these guys could go more than an inning w/out giving up a run? Bless them for trying as younguns, but I dunno. I do agree I'd rather see them than the guys you mentioned. That is something Oz could legitimately be second guessed on when this thing mercifully comes to an end. But does anybody really have confidence in those two either at this stage of their development?

Not many unfortunately. I've unfortunately had to follow the action on espn.com or yahoo.com and in the game threads. If they haven't quit ... then the only excuse I'll buy is that the loss of CQ finally demoralized them as well as the many bullpen implosions. I mean baseball players aren't dumb. They realize these relievers with the exception of Bobby and Thornton are dogs***. And don't tell me Dotel is good. (Liney gets a pass because of his injury). If they haven't quit I'll say they are simply demoralized and have thrown up their hands.

Fine, you don't want to address my points which I think are somewhat valid. Sorry I asked you to put out the effort.

I can buy these points. You might be right. I still say there's something to my take as well.

This says a lot about why we don't deserve to play postseason ball (not that the Twins do). My god. Mike MacDougal should never ever have been allowed to join the big league team this season. Any team willing to give that guy the ball deserves to not make the playoffs. The other guys ... oh my god how bad they are. All of em. Horrific pitchers all. I'd hesitate to rank them in order of cruddiness. Too bad Dotel didn't join the fray tonight and add to the KC Royal horrificness of this Royals-led bullpen.

Tony then you explain it. That it's "just baseball?" Please comment on my above take on the matter.

As dumb as it sounds, I think there's something to it, daa. Or else they realize they ain't got it w/out CQ. You lose so many games in weird ways (mainly bullpen implosions by guys who shouldn't be in the big leagues since Joe Morgan opened his big fat mouth) I think it finally gets to you. I may be mistaken. How many times can you blow a game afore you pretty much give up. We're toast. As far as fathom's comment: Good, then hopefully he's submit his letter of resignation if they don't make it to Monday. Oz deserves his share of blame for total failure to field even an average team in September, but who do you want to manage this crew next season? Sure he could quit or get axed. It'd probably be some guy in our minor league system. Buddy Bell is not the answer.

Amen fathom. How dare anybody compare this team to Special Olympians. Those Olympians fight til the end. The Sox only fight when guys named Carlos and Crede and a healthy Linebrink are around.

That made me smile for the first time in a while, Thanx, Felix for showing more spunk than this sorry excuse of a team (the one that took the field in September).

No offense, but there are no positives and should be no positive game thread. This team doesn't deserve one, at least not the team that took the field in September.

Thanks Royals (not the ones who for some reason continue to be on the White Sox roster). Oh and Thanks Sox for again showing what pussies you are. What a joke. You could list 20 things to be pissed about tonight but why bother? They don't care. We do. Sad.

Sure. To protect him from what? Greinke has no injury. There is something to be said about integrity in baseball. Greinke is capable of holding Minnie to one or two runs in 7 innings.

Yes and the game against Baltimore. I hate to keep bringing it up but don't you guys agree we needed to go into Minnie with a 4-5 game lead? fathom was right in assuming we were going to lose all 3 in Minnie. We predictably lost all 3 but because of the Yankee series and Baltimore and not sweeping three hack KC pitchers, we only had a 3 game lead. Season over. Cleveland has a sensational record the past month and will not be swept by us in the Cell.

I'm telling you, the comish should fine the s*** out of Hillman for the Greinke travesty. Not that it will matter, though.

This is a great title for a thread but the guys answered the thread question last night in blowing the 6-1 lead. It's over fellas. It's over. Our team laid down in Minnie. They couldn't sack up and get the one win, which is all we really needed. They answered the question in NY when they couldn't even f***ing split the series and in KC when they couldn't sweep against 3 Royals hack starters. You don't come back from what we did in Minnie. In an in or out thread, I am OUT. Cause the guys made the decision for me last night. Will I cheer and pray for the boys to pull it out? Sure. We ain't gonna win five in a row. I can guarantee that.

Ozzie and Kenny Ball is hit it over the wall ball.

Dat's it. Great find. Dat's all she wrote.

Our chances of winning the division went out the window when we didn't sweep KC in KC and when we pissed down our leg in NY losing 3 instead of splitting. Bye bye, see ya next year.

My gosh, an eye for an eye? And you end up harassing some nice Minnesota people that just want to see a game as well? Write the letter to the twins owner and copy it to the newspapers.

Please write a letter to the Twins' front office. Please write letters to the editor to both Minnesota papers. They will print them. Copy the letter to their main columnists. Don't take this lying down. Thanx for going and trying to help our zombie White Sox win. You are da man!!

The Twins are not a better team. The Twins have our number. We needed to go into Minnie with a 4 game lead minimum, 5 or 6 which we could and should have done. Both teams have equally sucked all month. It's just that we had 3 games which were guaranteed losses, these past 3 games. The Twins' starting pitching sucks. The Twins actually have a better chance of losing 3 in a row to the Rays than we do. I'm not defending our piss poor performance of late. I'm saying BOTH TEAMS have sucked all month. It's just we had the guaranteed 3 losses there.

After that piss poor effort in Minnie, where our team simply sucked, its the players who have to show something attitude wise for the first time in a long time and win five games in a row. Sadly to say it simply ain't gonna happen.

Guys ... read the Sun Times DeLuca column. The team has stopped believing. Sorry but we are toast. Swisher brooding; OC talking to Twins about how great the Twins are; Oz ripping everybody in sight. We ain't winning s*** vs. the Tribe. Let the firesale begin ... hopefully at the winter meetings when our big name players' performances of this season will have been largely forgotten and we can get some value for Swish, Paulie, Dye, Javy, etc. How can we believe in a team that has tanked??

All I can say is 'Wow. Mr Team Guy Swish is brooding. He and OC were not the great clubhouse guys we supposedly were getting. We are done, folks. We is finished.

That's what is so frustrating. The Sox could have been over 3 games up. When both teams were playing on the road at the same time we could have manned up and expanded our lead. Even coming into Minnie with a 4 game lead would have been fine. I think the very MEDIOCRE Twins would have lost a game to us; we wouldn't have won it, they'd have lost it. It's very frustrating to deep down know we'd lose all 3 and have 3 days of our lives wasted as it slowly happened day after day. It's payback for the joy given us in '05. This is the polar opposite sinking feeling.