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There is zero chance of getting a package that includes Basallo and Mayo.

Interesting…thanks

I know some of you guys were ripping on Elias recently for being tight fisted with his top prospects….. Do this change your opinion? https://thereportonsports.com/pittsburgh-pirates-explore-trade-options-orioles-offered-jackson-holliday-for-jared-jones/

I’m in for Fedde in some package like was discussed here that includes Beavers and a second player. That player starts with Bradfield our current #4-#30 and Getz can have his choice, I’d throw in a DSL kid to sweeten the pot. If I can add something marginal and bring Brebbia or Kopech. Maybe Pham, Baulmer I’d do it. …. For Crochet …. I know he’s worth a lot. I just don’t think he’s a good fit for the Orioles due to price and availability. Plus the injury concerns. I think some GM will drop his pants but I don’t expect it to be Mike Elias.

I don’t care for any of them

Likely …. I tnink the deal would be close if that were the offer.

So Mayo , Norby , plus https://fansided.com/posts/orioles-rumored-trade-package-for-garrett-crochet-is-absolutely-loaded-white-sox

Heyman is generally known as the Yankees organization’s mouthpiece. How can you read anything other than “Not Interested” from the quote? Unless you want to raise an objection that doesn’t exist. To me they arent saying they won’t trade him for Crochet. They are saying they aren’t interested in trading him for anybody.

Kopech has been awful for 2 years. He’s worth a PTBNL or a bag of balls.

So if they aren’t willing to trade Jones what makes you think they’d offer their #1 prospect. It almost seems counterintuitive

I guess that depends on whether you consider Heyman a reliable source. Bye the way …. Those complaining about Norby’s K Rate ….Spencer Jones has 119 whiffs in 287 ABs.

Are you serious?

Beavers and Norby gives you both for Fedde.

Honestly…. I’m not the typical O’s fan …. On the current roster I’d trade Cowser. In addition to Mountcastle, Mateo, Urias, Hays, Santander, and Mullins. In the minors I’d be open to trading any of our prospects. I’d prefer to keep Mayo. Where I am similar to other Orioles fans and perhaps Elias is that I’m not willing to trade them for a guy like Crochet. It’s not that I don’t think he’s a good pitcher….in fact he’s has an amazing first half. But, I don’t think his track record and injury history are worth the risk. I think somebody might cave and get close to Getz price tag. Right now we know the Yankee said no to giving up the #75 prospect in a deal for him. So it would be reasonable to say why anyone even White Sox fans expect Elias to deal #2, #9, #15, or Kjerstad for him? It’s nice to want and I really don’t blame you guys for wanting to cash in. And honestly hope your trades are bountiful and the rebuild ends quickly. Because believe me we feel your pen going through 4-5 years of being awful.

Norby is going to be a special Major League bat. I don’t like how the Orioles have handled him at all.

That’s logical ?

I don’t know …. It was a trade suggested by @JUSTgottaBELIEVE. It was shared over there. It seems pretty reasonable to me so I shared it over there. The majority 60% or so said they do the deal. I’m guessing you wouldn’t be in favor of that deal. Surely you’d want Holliday or Basallo for a pitcher with one good season so it’s probably not worth debating.

So at the time a DL Hall and Ortiz package was pretty strong. It wasn’t a good package for the White Sox considering they were in a total rebuild. Hall was a 3+ ERA pitcher last year as a reliever. He pitched well had a 1.19 Whip 12 K/9 and 2.3 WHIP. He has the skills to be a 2 pitch leverage reliever. If you look at his minor league stats he struggled at each stop to pitch 5 innings, has inflated Walk rates and eras. The problem IMO is control of his 3-5 pitches. He didn’t need them to be a reliever. So instead of the Brewers using him in the pen they’ve wasted time trying to make him a starter again. Look at his AAA numbers …. He has a 1.9 WHIP….10 walks in like 13 innings . 7 starts but only 13 innings.

What a dumb post! Fans don’t make trades! We have no more control over Elias than you all have over Getz… Probably less because Elias has no pressure on him from the media or front office. FYI…There are two polls at the Orioles Hangout website specifically about Fedde. Both have the majority favoring obtaining Fedde for a package proposed by one of your posters here. Which was FEDDE AND KOPECH FOR NORBY AND BEAVERS

Because MLB has him as a 50. Fangraphs has his as a 45+. Not sure what the plus means. MLB also has Zavala as a 50… Fangraphs which you seem to like better has him as a 40. Surely you will downplay their grade since you don’t like it. Bradfield is hitting .270/.347/.706 with 40SB. So next year he’s at AA abd at 24 he’s at AAA. Maybe he progresses sooner. Zavala is 19 …. So he has more time to improve. But more productive? their OBP and OPS are similar (Zavala is slighty higher)….Bradfield has 40 SBs to 10 and 60+ points in BA.

Whether I’d trade Ortiz for the Cease return is irrelevant. At this point you have Thorpe who is doing good as a starter and a relief pitcher that is more valuable to your team as trade bait. The two minor league guys could end up being nothing and as I mentioned are struggling at AA. It will take a while to see if they get anything more from that deal. If if he wasn’t a fit for the White Sox Ortiz already has 2+ WAR in half a season.

So I was discussing the trade pieces. Bradfield wasn’t one of those so why would you feel I failed to mention him?

Nice contribution

I don’t think anyone is suggesting that the White Sox should give Crochet away. The concern by O’s fans are the limited availability and injury risk. There is no sense for us to argue the merits of that as it’s been discussed at nausea. The Yankees said no to top100 (#74) Spencer Jones. So it’s reasonable to wonder why he’d be worth one of the #2 , #9, or #15 prospects. I don’t see Elias trading Westburg but I wonder if he’d deal Cowser.

Mayo is the starting 3B or 1B next year. How is that more valuable to other teams? I’d personally deal Basallo but he’d be a platoon with Adley that allows him less wear and tear. They could also DH when not starting. McCann has played 39 games so far so it’s not like Adley is catching everyday.