NUKE_CLEVELAND

No dude, I think the outfielders had Narcolepsy that day.

You know what. Homeruns look nice on ESPN and they do win ballgames but its the walks and base knocks that set up the big innings. That's what you need from your lead off man.

No he doesn't. He's a leadoff man that means his job is simply to get on base no matter how he does it. HR's and RBI from his spot in the lineup are a bonus.

On a pace for 30 HR's and 132 RBI'S? Id say so.

But Frank doesn't play 1st base anymore.

Our offense has no trouble at all producung runs, it's just that attitude thing I mentioned when it comes to "Roulette Wheel Day".

I want KW to bring in a 5th starter like everybody else here does but lets hope he doesn't make a bad deal in the interest of making a quick deal. I can handle overpaying somewhat as this is a really weak area for us but hopefully he wont settle for just anybody when he pulls the trigger.

Here he is, Ramon Ortiz's replacement!!

Dude, there's just so many quality movies out there I cant even begin to pick one that I'd call my fav. A top ten list is more in order and this is in no particular order. Good Fellas Blackhawk Down Heat Any one of the James Bond movies Carlito's Way Scarface Thirteen Days Predator Pulp Fiction Snatch

You know what we need to do? We need to worry about winning ball games and fixing our internal issues & that's it. This is no time to be looking at the standings.

I agree. What this team doesn't need now that we've got a good thing going is drama in the clubhouse. KW just do whatever the heck you want to do with him since its your call and be done with it already.

Lets look at that really quick then. Valentin has 1 GIDP this season to Paulie's 5. If they had the same number of AB's the ratio would be more like 2-5. That's 3 more outs. Valentin has struck out 19 more times than Konerko has and again his OBP is .50 points less than Konerko's, so who's costing who outs? I will admit Konerko had a bad 1st half last season & that's probably where a lot of the bad data for Konerko came from & that's without the benefit of a month by month analysis of his stats.

What's really funny about all this is that you took a little swipe about Valentin's excessive strikeouts and blew it up into that rant of yours. As I have shown your argument is full of s***. Have a nice day dumbass.

This was a discussion about how Konerko is walking a lot lately & I took a small swipe at Valentin cause he strikes out too much. Ok fine. You're having to dig really deep to find all that stuff from last year claiming Valentin is better than Konerko but lets dissect that bit. Saying he allows as many as 30 total bases because he's "rangeless" is kind of a stretch because he simply doesn't get as many chances as Valentin does and how much range does a 1B man really need anyway? You have the foul line, which he's guarding half the time on one side and there's Harris or Uribe on the other side playing second base so he's pretty well covered. Either that or he's holding a runner on base and cant get to a whole lot hit to his right. I watch a lot of Sox games on TV and in person & frankly I never see him looking as akward as you say. Maybe you're watching another Konerko than I am. A lot of the foul pops he cant get to end up in the stands or they are far enough out that Magglio gets there first. NICE TRY. Since nearly all that difference is based on your assumptions which are bulls*** then you can take your crack pipe back and shove it up your ass. Since I dont have last seasons stats available to me I'll look at this season instead. Konerko's batting average is 7 points higher than Valentin's. Valentin strikes out nearly twice as much as Konerko does ( 42-23 ), Konerko's on base percentage is 51 points higher than Valentin's is (.383 - .331). The strikeout factor is particularly telling because Valentin has 33 fewer AB's than Konerko ( 163-130 ) If Valentin played every day the K ratio would be even more drastic. Now, on to defensive stats. Comparing the fielding percentages and error counts of a SS and a 1B man is like comparing apples to oranges because those 2 positions are two totally different kinds of animal so Id rather look at how they fare amongst their own peers. Valentin: Lowest fielding percentage of all MLB shortstops (.937) Second highest error count of MLB shortstops with 11 so far ( again he doesn't play every day and the leader has played in 18 more games than Valentin so Valentin is by far the leauge leader in errors per game ). So lets review. Lowest fielding percentage in the leauge and most errors per game. I didn't even bother to see where he ranks on salary for his position but I'll bet its in the top half Konerko: He's about in the middle of the pack fielding percentage wise but you must then consider that his Fielding % is .995. He's made 2 errors in 46 games. Valentin fielding percentage:.937 Valentin errors: 11 in 32 games = .34 E/Game Konerko fielding percentage: .995 Konerko errors: 2 in 46 games = .044 E/Game Again. You wanted to compare two players of different positions and their stats and as I have shown, your argument that Valentin is better defensively holds about as much water as a bucket with holes in it.

I would like nothing more than a 2nd or 3rd inning exit for Jesus Prior. If nothing else, just to stick it to the Flubbs fans a little more.

Pointing out peoples typos & spelling errors is rude as hell. This is not English class.

Way to hook us up the last week or so against the Twins. Here's to ya!

That wasn't a swipe at you, just an observation about the board as a whole

Maybe Valentin can teach Konerko how to throw the ball into the stands from the SS position and while he's at it teach him how to kick some ground balls around like he's playing soccer.

Why does this thread keep getting bumped? To stick it to Rectum? Maybe you should be bumping my DECLINE THIS! thread instead.

Funny how he writes about the Sox when his Flubbs are losing.

We need to continue to keep our heads in the game and increase that lead as much as we can while they are still hurt. When they get healthy you had best believe they will make a move.

Sometimes I sit there watching BBTN and wonder just what, if anything, Gammons knows about MLB aside from Red Sox, Yankees, Cubs and Sosa.

I made that point earlier but I guess people only notice when I criticize someone.

Agreed. You point out someones spelling errors in English class. Hows bout we stick to the substance of the post.