southsideirish

Opinions are like assholes everybody has one. I don't think Rays famil life ever came into question. As for the personal attack I will leave that be.

I believe he said they were going to make an exception in order to keep him. I am prety sure we would have seen more moves to follow the Bartolo signing. We wouldn't have just kept it at that. As cheap as Reinsdorf is.

Opnions are like assholes. Everybody has one.

I dont have one. THat is why I said supposedly. It was hard for me to believe too. J Hood from the score kept reporting it and was thrilled when he was traded. That is the only source I have. Sorry.

Yeah if you put it that way I guess your right. I have never looked at his numbers to be honest with you. I just remember him putting up great numbers when our team would be out of it. Plus he did hurt Frank didn't he? What was Frank's numbers hwile he was here? Isn't that when he went into a decline? Didn't he also hurt the clubhouse? Numbers are nice but wins are better.

You think so? Are you being sarcastic? If your not then maybe I have a different memory of him. I always remember him having a terrible year until we were out of it. Then he would go off with a great second half and put up some really good numbers. Didn't Frank also go into some kind of decline when Albert got here? That is just what I remember.

Just for your information ESPN lists Navarro as the #1 worst FA signing of all time. Danny Tartabll is in there as well.

you got that right

You are right, you don't hear it much from the NBA. I did see it a lot in h.s and college. I have also seen it much more in pick up games. There are a lot of basketball careers that are ruined by torn ACLs.

Is Carlton Fisk the best FA signing in the history of Major League Baseball? Can you think of one better? I would love to hear people's thoughts on this as I honestly can't think of a better FA signing in baseball. Here is ESPN's top 10, No Carlton Fisk to be found. Should he be? Remember Fisk played 13 years with teh White Sox. He was signed in his prime and went on to be one of the best catchers ever. Yet there is no mention of him here. The 10 best free agents Reggie Jackson, Yankees, 1977 Jackson was already one of the most famous names in baseball when he signed a five-year, $3 million contract. He then became Mr. October, leading the Yankees to back-to-back World Series titles. In the clinching Game 6 of 1977, he blasted three home runs on three swings to beat the Dodgers. Goose Gossage, Yankees, 1978 Sparky Lyle had won the AL Cy Young in 1977 as the Yankees' closer, but that didn't stop George Steinbrenner from signing Gossage. The Goose pitched six seasons for the Yankees, twice led the AL in saves and never had an ERA above 2.62. Pete Rose, Phillies, 1979 Rose wasn't really a great player during his stay in Philadelphia, but he was the final piece of the puzzle as the Phillies won their only World Series championship in 1980. The Phillies had lost the NLCS in 1976, 1977 and 1978 before signing Rose to a four-year contract for $800,000 per year. Kirk Gibson, Dodgers, 1988 Gibson became a "second-chance" free agent in 1988, after the owners had colluded to close down the free-agent market in 1986 and 1987. Gibson signed for $1.8 million with the Dodgers (a $500,000 raise from what he made with the Tigers in 1987) and went on to win the NL MVP and blast his famous home run off Dennis Eckersley in Game 1 of the World Series. Nolan Ryan, Rangers, 1989 Sure, Ryan had thrown five no-hitters and was the career strikeout king, but he didn't really become Nolan Ryan until he signed with the Rangers. The Astros thought Ryan was too old, even though he had led the NL in strikeouts in 1988. Ryan cemented his legend with Texas, throwing two more no-hitters, winning his 300th game, fanning 301 hitters at age 42, helping a new ballpark get built and becoming fast friends with team owner George W. Bush. Jack Morris, Twins, 1991 Morris left the Tigers to sign a one-year deal for $2.67 million with his hometown team. He won 18 games and pitched one of the greatest games of all-time when he beat the Braves 1-0 in 10 innings in Game 7 of the World Series. Then he bolted for Toronto, where he won 21 games and another World Series title. Barry Bonds, Giants, 1993 Bonds had won two MVP awards with the Pirates, but with a limited budget, the Pirates instead elected to sign Andy Van Slyke instead of Bonds. Many have insinuated the club signed Van Slyke because he was white and more popular with the fans. He never had another good year while Bonds remains one of baseball's greatest players (and one of the greatest of all-time). The Giants signed him for six years, $43.75 million. Greg Maddux, Braves, 1993 This was one bidding war the Yankees didn't win, as Maddux took less money (about $5.5 million per year) to sign with Atlanta -- in part because of better golfing available than in New York. Maddux had won a Cy Young with the Cubs in '92 and won the next three years as well. Roger Clemens, Blue Jays, 1997 Clemens had gone 10-13 with the Red Sox in 1996, although with a solid 3.63 ERA. Dan Duquette decided to let him go anyway. The Rocket headed north and won back-to-back Cy Young Awards, winning the AL pitching triple crown (wins, ERA, strikeouts) both years. Randy Johnson, Diamondbacks, 1999 Arizona has no complaints about giving the Big Unit a four-year, $53 million contract. Some teams had concerns about Johnson's history of back problems, but all he's done in two seasons with Arizona is win two Cy Young Awards while striking out more than 700 batters.

I keep hearing this. Was this through his agnet that he said this?

Thanks Jim. Sounds liek a good interview.

How long ago was this? If it's not Borass then I think we have a chance. That guy is impossible to deal with.

ESPN.com news services NEW YORK -- Yankees third baseman Aaron Boone injured his left knee playing basketball and might miss the season. Boone Boone was hurt about a week ago and may have torn an anterior cruciate ligament. The extent of the injury will not be known until swelling subsides, and he has not yet been examined by Yankees' doctors. Boone agreed Dec. 1 to a $5.75 million, one-year contract, and the contract contained language saying it would become nonguaranteed if he played basketball. "Concerning his contract, I can confirm that there are certain prohibited activities, which include basketball," Cashman said. If there is a complete tear, he would require reconstructive surgery that could keep him until 2005. "We are currently evaluating the extent of the injury and expect to solicit multiple opinions before providing a complete diagnosis," general manager Brian Cashman said Monday. The Yankees do not have a backup third baseman with full-time experience. Enrique Wilson and newly signed Miguel Cairo are options to fill the spot. New York acquired Boone, who will turn 31 in March, from Cincinnati on July 31, and his 11th-inning homer off Boston's Tim Wakefield in Game 7 of the AL Championship Series won the pennant for the Yankees. Boone is eligible for free agency after next season, and if the Yankees successfully converted the deal to a nonguaranteed contract, they could release him and be responsible for only 30 days' termination pay, about $942,000. Minor leaguer Drew Henson was hoped to be an option at third this season, but he's struggled mightily in the Yankees' farm system and the trade for Boone signaled that New York did not think Henson would be ready for 2004. The Yankees and Henson's representatives recently have had talks toward severing his ties with the team. Henson, the former University of Michigan quarterback, agreed to a $17 million, six-year contract with the Yankees in 2001. He hit .234 with 14 homers, 40 doubles and 78 RBI at Triple-A Columbus this season. But he also struck out 122 times and made 28 errors at third. Information from The Associated Press was used in this report So who plays third for the Yanks? Anyone out there they can trade for or any FA available that they can sign? This is a huge hole. Wilson, Cairo, and Henson don't seem like good canidates. Is that the best they can do? Sucks for Boone though.

Really?Who is his agent? Please don't let it be Borass.

Damn! Please find the money to sign him Jerry!!! PLEASE!!!!!!!

Yes, there will still be a live Q and A.

This is basically our season in a nut shell. How these two pan out will determine a lot about our team. We seem to be building a nice bullpen. I think we probably have the best pitching staff in the division. If these 2 guys can come through for us we should have a really nice season. I think Rowand will be good. Willie I still have my doubts with his offense, but damn if he can get on base and set the table for us we should score a lot of runs.

Supposedly the clubhouse stuff is one of the reasons he was traded. JHood used to talk about it all the time and was thrilled when Ray was traded. Not that that should make much difference to anyone. I know he was traded because we were not going to resign him, but this was another reason for not wanting to sign him as well as the money issue. He wasn't the greatest at turning the double play either. The only thing I do remember him doing well was going out for pop ups to help out Frank. That is about it. Wasn't he so bad defensively that the A's used him as a DH most of the time after the trade? I don't remember him doing that well in the playoffs either. I am not saying Ray was bad for us. I liked him when he played here. I don't think he was worth the money he got and I don't think we should have resigned him if those clubhouse rumors are indeed true.

I think he was terrible last year. He is awful defensively. He is not a team player. Ask SF fans what they think about him. In fact I will go check out what they think of him right now. There is more to baseball than just OBP and BA. I definately don't think he was worth the money or worth bringing back. Fact is he was hurt last year and you can't average things out over a certain amount of games. That is not the way things work. Things don't always go that way. I have heard plenty of bad about him in the clubhouse. Doing his own things and not with teammates. I was never comparing him to Willie Harris, but I do think Willie is a huge improvement in the field over Ray. Ray was also a very streaky hitter in case you forgot that.

really why not? I am not talking about his whole career with the sox. I am talking about his career after.

You think I am worked up? OK then.

I still agree he has the right to answer the question. As I have stated I think his plans are different than yours however. I think he wants Frank out and this is a good way to get that ball rolling. I also think that he gave an honest answer and that Frank could have avoided this whole damn thing by just calling back his employers. He answered the question and I don't see a problem with that. I also said from here until spring training it should be off limits. I never said that it was any of our business. That was not being debated. I was saying that it was newsworthy and that the media asks those questions based on that.

Ok then answer the second part of it. Could this whole thing have been avoided if Frank would have returned his bosses phone calls?

Ok then how did I change my mind if this is not what you meant? What was your basis for this argument? I wouldlove to know that. WHAT DID IT MEAN AND WHY DID YOU WRITE IT? I mean if I didnt ever disagree with that then why would I NOW have to? Does anyone else see where I am coming from? I really don't understand why this f***ing b**** just doesn't leave me alone. I am so sick and tired of her ass.