southsideirish

I will be honest with you Baggio. I think you can find fault with just about any GM in the league. How about listing all of Cashman's bad moves. How about Beane's. It is pretty easy to do as well. Even the most respected GMs make horrible moves. I think Kenny made great moves last year to get us back into the playoff chase. Of course you will probably disagree there. As for Olivo, if he does become an all star catcher he will be better than a setup man simply because of the positions each play. Bradford is really good, I will give you that. I never questioned that. I just think a hell of a catcher is better than a hell of a setup man. I understand we have to wait for Olivo to see what we truly have, but from what I have seen it is pretty damn good. I can see from your posts that you are a KW hater. That is fine. I have no problem with that. You are entitled to that opinion. Did you like Schueler? How about Krause? Paxson? Angelo? Maybe you just hate this town's GMs. However, I think no matter what Kenny does it would upset you. Since that is the case your opinion is somewhat biased against him. I am still grateful we didn't get stuck with Danny Evans. Now that would have been bad.

I respect your opinion and I will just have to agree to disagree with you. Like I said before, I think the positions they play make the trade. It would seem easier to fill middle relief than to fill and potentially real good catcher spot. That is just the way I see it. I would trade away a midle reliever any day for that.

If you insist. However, if Olivo keeps developing the way he has then Beane will regret it. Bradford is good, I will give you that. Finding a great defensive catcher that can also run and hit is hard to find. He could be an all star for years to come. Especially in the American League where it is not full of great catchers. A middle reliever for an all-star catcher? I say that is a steal. I understand we will have to wait a while for Olivo to develop into that all star and I understand your point of view. I just think the positions they play make a difference.

Actually the question was quoting a news paper article. The question was if Kenny was mad that Frank was not returning HIS or Ozzie's phone calls. Kenny didn't just throw that in there. He answered the question honestly. Did he have to? Of course not! However, many fans seem to appreciate the honesty.

Hmm, really? Ok. I agree Kenny has made a terrible move with the trade of Ritchie, even though the only thing he really gave up was Wells. Fogg doesn't look to be very good and Lowe is, well, low. The problem is that Ritchie sucks ass and wasn't even worth Lowe, let alone a couple prospects. He has also come up with some steals. Loaiza, Olivo, and Marte to name a few. Now my question is this. If you only had a 58-63 million dollar payroll, how would you run this club any better? For what he has to deal with I believe he has done a great job. It is not easy to make deals when you have huge restrictions as Kenny does. If you say he is a moron for his comments then I don't think you are seeing the big picture. I think he has a plan with these comments. I think he is trying to get Frank to demand a trade. I don't think he wants him here anymore. You can say he is a moron for not wanting him here, however a lot of people have wanted him out for years. Called him the clubhouse cancer. Some even point to him as the reason we haven't been able to beat the Twins even though we have superior talent on paper. For what Kenny has to work with I really don't think he is a moron. I would actually love to see the moves you could make given these circumstances. ROCK ON SOX FANS!!!!

I can't believe people actually want to see are biggest star chase around and beat up our manager. Do you know what that would make our organization look like? Could you imagine if TO actually hit his coach on the sidelines when he was yelling at him? Come on guys. Have a little more respect than that. I actually think that hiring Ozzie was the best thing we could have done. I think he is going to be a real good manager for our team. We will see when it is all said and done, but I really like the move. I would have hated to see Gaston, a manuel clone, with our team next year. Really guys, what did you think we were going to get? Bobby Valentine? No one in the majors would touch this guy. He is in Japan managing. Ozzie was the best choice and just because he answered a question from the media about Frank honestly does not make him a bad guy. Whatever though. People, especially White Sox fans, will always find something to complain about. I guess it is what drives us.

That is the closest thing I have seen to a no comment from you. I guess you can understand where I am coming from then. Then again you seem pretty stubborn and only seem to see your point of view so I have my doubts about that. Well sugar, as long as we have some sort of understanding it's all good. You have a great weekend. Your wonderful, really.

Nah. I have seen other opinions of yours. They are basically the same. I don't see you post many things with positive outlooks.

I couldn't agree with you more. The hosts of the show were exactly correct on this matter as well. They are his employers, it is part of his job to report back to his employers if called upon. If you or I or anyone else were to do this we would be fired on the spot. It is not like they can't find him. They know where he is. He just won't respond. Actually I don't think any of you supporters of Frank actually understand what is going on here. Lets just take a step back and look what is going on. I could be way off here, but my opnion of this matter is this: Were the White Sox hoping he found a new home last year when he was shopping around? YES! Did the White Sox pick up their part of the option on Frank? NO! Do you really think that they want him here anymore? NO! Do you think they may be airing this out to try to get Frank even more upset, hoping he will waive his 5/10 no trade and demand a trade anywhere? KW kind of hinted at this with one of his last statements. He at least hinted they were trying to trade him or shopped him around. I mean come on. We should all be able to put 2 and 2 together here guys. THEY DON'T WANT HIM HERE! Now I am not saying this is what I want. I honestly love Frank as a person and as a player when he is good. I have met him twice and I can't name a better person in the game. I have heard great things about him. I have heard his team mates love him. For some reason he has rubbed management the wrong way and they want him out. As far as Wally Backman goes I really hope this guys comes forward and says something else about KW. That way we can hear what really happened. KW said if Backman goes public with anymore statements that he will have no choice but to tell everyone the real story. I can't wait. I am sure there is a lot more to this. Rock on White Sox fans!

I think you have a thing for me. Do you do a search for me and see what my last post was or what? I like reading your posts too but I don't feel the need to post a reply to every single one of them.

I know what it means. I didn't find it funny. How about I call you an ignorant dips*** then laugh my ass off about it. Sound good to you? Peace babycakes. I am all about love and understanding.

I would love to as long as the other party involved does so as well. I have no problem with anyone. It seems as though someone else has a problem with me. I am glad you think I should just lay back and take it, however that is not going to happen.

Thank you Steff. I thought we were supposed to be at peace with each other. Hey, whatever floats your boat sweetness.

It is always much easier to take that stance. Usually that stance will prove you correct. The negative way out is usually the way to go if you care about being right. Which from this comment it does seem to be what you care about. Always arguing what we should have done. Who cares about what we should have done. What is done is done. I think if Backman was hired after the rumor of these comments got out his team wouldn't think the same about him. Just my opinion.

In fact I think it was. Or maybe you can have a thread full of things consisting of Ozzies dick in your mouth. That is if you ever disagree with Steff's opinions.

Ok if thats the way you feel fine. Personally I would be offended and pissed off that the coach of my team was congratulating the most hated team I can think of. To each their own.

So you are saying if Ditka did that you would have no problem with it? I honestly believe he would get ripped for it. He is an icon in this town. He does a local radio show about the Bears. He is a Bear through and through. I think most people would have a big problem with that. It has nothing to do with working or coaching for the Bears. It was an example. An example I believe most would not like. You are right and I stated that I believe there is more to this. I believe he was fired over that rumor. I believe that rumor to be true. Just my opinion. Mr. Moderator thinks that is a bunch of crap, but who knows. Honestly no one will probably ever know. Why would a Twins player say that happened if it never happened? Oh well, to each their own.

I think a better look at how hitter friendly a park is is the HR rank. PIT is 22nd, Yankees are 11th, and CIN is 3rd in that category. In runs scored it depends on how good the home team's lineup is as well as how poor its pitching and defense is. I don't think PIT's overall rteam pitching and defense has been all that great. Just my opnion.

He can talk to him. It was jut the wrong time to talk to him.I believe it does matter. How would you take it if Mike Ditka called Sherman to congratulate him after the Pack clinched the playoffs if they were friends? I think he would be ripped for doing that just as Backman is.

He did an inexcusable thing. Even if he did make a phone call to congratulate his freind Gardenhire, couldn't this have waited until the playoffs began? Did he have to make the phone call right then? I mean Gardenhire is the enemy of the organization. That is like Ditka calling Mike Sherman and congratulating him. Even if they are friends, you just don't do that right then. To me Backman is a complete moron for what he did. I honestly do believe he said what was reported. Not just to congratulate a friend.

You like to use that a lot mr. moderator.

It is not all that bad. We are already pissed that we havent made any moves. We didn't need Boobarotti to tell us that. He is basically regurgitating what every sox fan talks about on radio and the message boards. The bad thing is he is not very respected so it does nothing for us in terms of Sox management actually doing anything about it. The only way we would have a chance in hell of Sox management changing because of the media is if we get could more writers who are more respected to write about the shortcomings of our team.

HA HA! I will pass, but thanks for the invite. And I don't want to milk him either.

Whatever. I am not arguing anymore. It was abrasive to me. That is all I am saying. I am done arguing. Over and out.

OH JEEZE!!!! Fine if it will stop all this I will. I was completely wrong Steff. It was all my fault I took your comment in an abrasive way. Please tell me what to do anytime. I promise never to take it the wrong way again.