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I was so worried Jose would throw that away or something.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 06:46 PM) Yes, I know. I was also the one wondering about the obsession. I know batting average isn't the be-all and end-all, but his still worries me. Does he go to the opposite field much? I wonder if BHAM could help with that... He can hit the ball with authority to all parts of the field. His average will never be great, but I think he's one of those guys that will hit for power no matter where he goes. He's also semi tough to pitch to because he can hammer good pitches. Still, he needs to work more on hitting the breaking ball cause thats the one spot that could potential reak havoc on him at the major league level, imo. He's making strides though.

Looked like he was gripping for the change or splitter and that really got away from him. Sox lucked out too.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 06:47 PM) Now he's 0-2. What do you do here? Gas him upstairs. Changeup in the dirt or a splitter in the dirt. I got faith in AJ blocking it.

Its weird....Jose looked so smooth in the 1st inning, now this. Still, I think we'll all be loving Jose later on this year. For some reason I see him getting things together and just having an insane stretch (potentially during the playoffs). He's made a lot of strides this year and at times he reverts, but in general I think he's taken a few steps forward and is much closer to reaching his potential (which is great). Come on Contreras, get Scutaro.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 06:43 PM) Jason, is Young's mom there right now? You're very flowery toward him (more than usual) tonight. Whats there to say about a guy who has totally raked the crap out of the ball (Xbase hits wise) after skipping a level. He also has plus tools and can just make things happy. Sure he's raw, but the ability is there. I'd rather see the Sox deal Sweeney as opposed to Young. Even though I happen to think Sweeney will have a strong 2nd half and we will see his average in the .300 range or right near it by the end of the year.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 06:39 PM) I'm gonna put an "Untouchable" label on a little bit more of a sure thing. Nothing against Young, but the high risk makes me wary. I'm feeling too many Borchard vibes with the bat. Borchard may of flopped but I'd of s*** a brick if the Sox had dealt him after he had that monster year in Bham. It turned out to flame, but it was the right call to make Joe Borchard untouchable. Its too bad he couldn't get things straight. He is doing a solid job in Charlotte and I wish him the best. He'll be in another org next year and maybe he'll get a shot to be a role player somewhere else. However, Young is incredibly explosive. He's got a shot to be very very special. Of course I've been oozing over Young for quite a while.

Ya, without looking it up I think so. Sox drafted him two years ago and thought he had a dynomite arm. Obviously they still feel he did. He was supposedly a tough sign and most teams passed him by and he really wasn't on many teams radars because of this. However, since the Sox had drafted him they obviously were privy to a little more information and felt he would be a good choice.

I'd say there is a good chance at that. Heck, I'd go as far as to say that he tends to have a simliar approach to Iguchi. Although he definately doesn't have the pop. However, if you notice how Guchi always seems to make adjustments and is very willing to go opposite field, Getz is similar. Basically put, he's a smart hitter, he just will not ever hit a ton of HR's. I'm interested in seeing how Aaron Cunnigham does. He has pretty good power potential and solid tools across the board. Of course one of the guys I'm most interested in would be Collaro. If he can continue to shorten his swing and make progress in terms of strike recognition, he could turn into a very special player. He flat out has more power potential than anyone else in the Sox system. Chris Young and Brian Anderson would probably be next on this list and than of course Brandon Allen. But good lord can Collaro hammer the ball. He's an extra base machine...I'd even say he's a more raw version of Chris Young (offensively speaking). He has nowhere near the other tools that Young has (Young is a 4 tool guy, with the only tool lacking being his arm).

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Moved to the around the horn forum.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 06:29 PM) I've got a real tough time putting that label on Young. Young is quite possibly the most talented outfielder in the system, although you could make that same case for Anderson. Anderson has similar tools although he would rate about a notch below in terms of power potential. However Anderson is a little more fluid and has a much stronger arm. Aside from that, there tools rank relatively even across the board. Anderson also projects to hit for a little better average than Young. However, I'm starting to think the Sox have two special OF prospects between Anderson and Young and I'm hoping come the deadline KW can sell Sweeney's potential and past spring and find a way to hold onto Anderson/Young, although I tend to think after the trade deadline one of these 3 outfielders will be gone.

Getz can handle the bat. He may not be the most toolsy player ever, but I think he's the type of guy that could move through the minors relatively quickly. I don't know if he'll turn into a very good player, but I definately see him being a utility type player at the very least. At the best, I could see him as a Counsell type, maybe even an Eckstein (ie, not amazing ability, but capable of handling the bat).

I'd agree with that. I think you'll see him get a few outings there and have him work up his stamina and than you'll see him in Kanny. He could even get a stop in Great Falls, but I highly doubt the Sox would do that (it usually appears guys are in GF or Bristol and the only time they go to the other is if they repeat rookie ball the next year).

Cantu creamed that one. The HBP came back to haunt Crain.

Jorge Cantu just hit a 2 run homer off Jesse Crain to give the Drays a 4-3 lead over the Twins in the top of the 7th.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Jul 1, 2005 -> 11:00 AM) If Bush nominates a moderate to slightly conservative, he'll have my respect and admiration. If he goes neanderthal, juts out his jaw, and plays wild west sheriff, I will not be happy. Bottom line, if conservatives and liberals are disappointed, it's about right. My guess is he'll first try and run a very staunch conservative through and will than "compromise" by pushing a more moderate conservative, who will probably be the guy he originally wanted or selected but will use the other guy to at least show some sort of effort of compromising. Thats what I'd do at least.

This sounds cool. I've been wanting to get back into reading, but never really know what book I should pick up. I don't follow what books are out there so if someone did and they sounded interesting I'd definately read some of the stuff.

QUOTE(MurcieOne @ Jun 30, 2005 -> 01:07 PM) I really want to get excited about Gio... but with all the hot-to-trot prospects that have flammed out... im gonna stay cautious. I know that every org must go through the same trials... but still. Typically I tab guys as players to watch in the lower levels, but I try not to get excited until they produce in AA. Once they prove they can play in AA, than I think its just a matter of time until they get their chance in the majors. AA is the level that shows you whose for real (in terms of prospects) and who isn't and than those real prospects will get their shot at the majors and see if they can cut it at that level.

Honda Pilot I freaking love it too.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jun 29, 2005 -> 11:52 PM) Arizona may figure in a 3-way wth Sox and Giants. Unless the Sox are looking at a veteran like Counsel. I can't see the Giants and Dbacks getting together on a deal. Stranger things have happened, and I know in the end if the Giants get what they want they should do the deal, but its never good to strengthen a division rival. I just don't see Viz or any of the mediocre relievers on the Sox being part of a 3 way deal for a player of Schmidt's magnitude. If they were, all the better, but I can't see why the heck the Giants would do that, they'd much rather deal directly with the Sox and keep a potential key piece from going to Arizona. On a sidenote, where is all this talk about the Sox scouting someone from Arizona? I just saw something mentioning Arizona had scouts at the game and that they were looking for relief help. Is there anything that said the SOx were scouting guys on the Dbacks or if the scouts were even there looking at Sox relievers? I'm telling you, Dbacks are looking at Farny. Now I think they'd be interested in Shingo or Viz, but I don't see a 3 way deal starting up, nor do I see the Sox just dealing them for a mid-level to potentially lower prospect. UNLESS, they simply want to free up money for another deal that had just went down (ie Sox acquire Schmidt and need to free up some payroll so they move Shingo or Viz...not that it wuold really be a big time savings). Just my 2 cents yas and now that I think about it...we'll just have to agree to disagree on this

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jun 29, 2005 -> 11:42 PM) I agree that KW won't deal from the pen just to make room for the kids. But, he may deal from the pen to, for example, acquire Schmidt, knowing he has Baj and Jenks down there waiting in the wings. Thats possible, but I highly doubt they move a guy like Marte. Could they move Viz or Shingo in a bigger picture deal for a guy like Schmidt, sure, but I don't know why in god sakes the Giants would do that. If I'm the Giants, I'm asking for Bmac, Marte or another reliever, and one of Sweeney/Anderson/Young. If I'm Kenny I'd counter and do what I could, but thats if he's interested. Speaking of relievers though, I still can't see it happening and if he were to ever deal one of Hermy/Politte/Marte than he'd be getting someone else in return as well. However, dealing one of them to open up a spot for Brad Lidge is another story. You are right about having those guys waiting in the wings to replace a Viz or Shingo, but there are no options along those lines at replacing Hermy/Politte/Marte (when Marte is healthy). And to add to this, they are mentioning Arizona. Why are the Sox going to deal with Arizona? Are they going to give us Chad Tracy or someone like that (he could play 3rd along with Crede) cause unless they are going to do something along those lines, I just don't see anything that makes sense. I guarantee you they are looking at one of the Tigers relievers (Farnsworth may just be the guy).

QUOTE(Beastly @ Jun 29, 2005 -> 11:33 PM) Quickman is right guys. He's not that great, even to be in the majors. And thats bulls*** to say AAA isn't a pitchers park, because I saw some very s***ty numbers at AA for Bajenaru. People on this board could give a less f*** about the youth of our organization and want to win now. World Series...just in their lifetime, some people might not be alive to see the Sox in the fall classic in the next 10 years or so. Win. Or die trying. Edit: I was reading the paper wrong. The guy I am mentioning should be Bullard. If it weren't for some of the youth of this organization (Buehrle, Garland, etc) the Sox wouldn't of ever been in this position. Nothing wrong with youth and there is absolutely no reason to knock on Baj like some have on here. The guy has kicked absolute ass in the minors ever since recovering from surgery. There is no board bias in his numbers, they are real. I'm not saying he'll be great, but he'll be a quality reliever in the majors. I'm also not calling for him to be up, but Beastly, lets not talk about how bad the guy is after 10 innings in the majors last year. Greg Maddux wasn't stellar his 1st 10 innings, most guys aren't. And I do give a crap about the future of the organization. Top prospects can either come up and help a club on the field or they can be dealt for other assets that can help a team potentially go the distance.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Jun 29, 2005 -> 08:41 PM) After reading how the D-Backs need bullpen help and how their scouts were at the games...it would be a fair assumption that Shingo or Jizzcan or Marte would be traded and Baj would be brought up. Ummm....no. Why in god sakes would the Sox deal a solid reliever (Viz pitched pretty darn admirably tonight and is showing some velocity) in order to call up an unknown like Jenks. Plus what are the Sox getting in return. Lets make one thing clear, Kenny isn't dealing from his pen in order to make room for Baj or Jenks this year. The only reason they'll get a shot is if they replace someone due to injury or in Hermy's case bereavment and come up and kick ass during that time. Otherwise they'll be waiting till September or playing in the majors for some other team before than cause those are the only reasons they'll be up here, imo.

I don't either, but I thought the same thing earlier this year when they called up Kevin Walker of all people.