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I was shocked to see Jerry get ejected so fast. I loved the way we played today.

Been a real good draft so far, imo. I like Justin Gage quite a bit, plus how can ya not like a guy with the name "Gage"

282 LBS and ran a 4.71 with 15 sacks, 80 tackles (23 for a loss). This kid is going to be real good and is a real complete end.

http://www.nflfans.com/bears/article.php?s...030426131922386

SN Report: Rowand on the Hot Seat, Harris Making Noise By Mario Scalise April 26, 2003 SoxNet.net One thing is certain, if Aaron Rowand and Willie Harris continue to play like they've been, the two will be playing part in a role reversal in the immediate future. Apparently Jerry Manuel is losing patience with Rowand, who is batting just .120 with no home runs, one RBI, two walks and seven strikeouts. And the only thing keeping him away from triple-A at this point is an upcoming series against the Oakland A's, where the Sox are scheduled to face two lefties in Barry Zito and Mark Mulder. However, that will come and go, while Harris' production with the Charlotte Knights has been impressive for some time. In 18 games for the Knights, Harris is among the league leaders in hits (29, 1st), batting average (.426, 2nd), runs scored (15, 2nd) and slugging percentage (.706, 4th). Harris, a lefty-hitting second baseman/outfielder, also has five doubles, a triple, four home runs, 10 RBIs and five stolen bases. Harris' value to the Sox will come through his speed and left-handed bat, two glaring holes in the offense. The 24-year-old Harris played in 49 games for the Sox last season, batting .233 with 12 RBIs, eight stolen bases and two home runs. Harris made his major league debut with the Baltimore Orioles in 2001 before getting dealt to the White Sox for center fielder Chris Singleton. Rowand batted .258 for the Sox in 2002, hitting seven homers and 29 RBIs. In 63 games in 2001, Rowand batted .293 with four home runs and 20 RBIs.

Looking sharp Mario.

The Bears also will get a 2nd rounder in the draft if Robertson is picked by the Jets. Tell me thats not value. I sure hope no one takes Robertson but the Jets.

Here is an article I just wrote in regards to this. Commentary: What Does the Trade Mean for the Bears? By Jason Gage April 25, 2003 Bearstalk.com Up until today people were projecting Dewayne Robertson, Terrell Suggs or Terrance Newman as the Bears first round draft pick. Those projections are now over. With two first round picks and a very early second round pick the Bears entire strategy has changed and in my opinion for the better. At number four, you want to select a player that is going to make an immediate impact or develop into a special player. It is safe to say that all three of the players mentioned above fit this category; the problem was the risk involved in each of them. In the case of Suggs, he had two terrible workouts just before the draft, which has led to most teams dropping him on the draft chart. Terrance Newman, 25, is a little older which leads to some concerns, but he also had some shoulder issues. Reports say that Newman is fully healthy now and I’d say Newman has an excellent chance at being a shutdown cornerback. The problem is Dick Jauron and others within the organization have hinted that they would rather have a great pass rusher then a shutdown corner, and that’s coming from Jauron, a former secondary-back. Then you have Robertson. Robertson’s stock has shot up because of an amazing combine and workout numbers. The problem is, his numbers in college worry some. In the case of Robertson or Newman I don’t think there is near as much risk involved, but there is the issue of all the money that is risked on a high pick. When you mix that with the amount of needs the Bears had, the decision was obvious to Angelo as well as myself, and that was the Bears should move down. Now that they have two first rounders and a very early second rounder they can pick up three potential starters all of which should be good players. The most dire needs for the Bears are on the defensive end of the ball (Dline, OLB, and the secondary) as well as the offensive line and quarterback. The Bears will likely target two defensive players and a quarterback with the first three picks, but if a player like Jordan Gross (Offensive Tackle) fell to them, it could be a different story. Some of the defensive players the Bears could target are: Boss Bailey (OLB), Marcus Trufant (CB), Andre Woolfolk (CB), Jimmy Kennedy (DT), Kevin Williams (DT), Jerome McDougle, or Terrell Suggs (If he kept sliding). Offensively it appears as if Gross, one of Iowa’s offensive lineman or Kwame Harris would be options along with quarterbacks: Kyle Boller, Byron Leftwich, Rex Grossman, Dave Ragone, and Chris Simms. There is also an outside shot that they would take a running back like Willis McGahee or Lee Suggs or even a receiver. Later in the draft I would like to see the Bears target defensive tackle Colin Cole (Iowa) and wide receiver’s Arnaz Battle (Notre Dame) and Karim Kelly (USC). It is no secret that the Bears have a lot of needs and if Angelo plays things right in this draft, he could really rejuvenate the talent base and make this years team so much better and deeper. Another big advantage with a great draft would mean the Bears would be able to drop one of the older defensive lineman they have, freeing up more cap room, so they could acquire two or three veterans in June. Trading out of the fourth pick will also save them quite a bit in cap space. The bottom line is the Bears now will be able to acquire three starters in the first two rounds and will be sitting pretty in the third, a round where some pretty solid players should still be available.

Bailey is projected at 12 to the Rams. Bailey has some amazing combine numbers, but your right, he still has some to learn, but he'll be good. Also LDF, there are about 9 really solid cb's, at least 6 tackles and a few ends. There is a lot out there. QB wise: Grossman, Simms, Boller, Leftwich, Palmer, Ragone. Those are all 2nd round qb's or higher.

I haven't seen anyone but Thomas picked in that contest. I'd go Jose or Jimenez all the way, maybe Maggs.

Rowand shouldn't be playing. Rios should be in there and if your going to take out Lee put Daubach in and give him some at bats. Brian needs some consistent at bats.

Buehrle looked much better last inning. Magglio got out some how, I zoned out. Konerko gets out too. Mays is looking solid. I sure hope we can get to him. Rios is now up.

Bottom of the 1st (3-0 Twins) -Jimenez grounds out to the shortstop -Jose works a full count and then flies out to Torri Hunter in center -Frank Thomas draws a full count taking a pitch that was close. Mays threw the ball in the exact same spot the next time and Thomas went down looking. Looks like Cali won the bet Clujer

Im just saying with all of "Kennys boys" he probably does have a lot of influence. But Im not changing my stance that our poor play is JMs fault... The hitters are the ones swinging the bats and the pitchers are the ones throwing the ball. How a guy in the dugout can be blamed when they do it poorly is beyond me. He knows who struggling and whos not. Then when he decides to put one of the strugglers in, its his fault... With hitters, you're right -- he should give PK a day or 2 off to let him clear his mind. Put Frank at first and give someone like Graffy a day at DH. With pitchers, though, you can't let them work out of struggling while sitting down in the pen. They need to get out there and have a good outing and work their way out of it. He needs to get Aaron out of there for a little bit. Aaron is only going to press himself more and more each and everyday and thats no way to get yourself into a slump, its only a way to dig yourself into a bigger and bigger hole.

Inning is finally over. If the Sox are going to do something they better do it pretty much immediately. If they fart around they will be in deep trouble.

It will hold that many people, I'm 99% positive. I think it holds up to 50 people or something along those lines.

Better make a change now, before it is too late. If were going to make a change, we can't wait, we got to get it done. We can't waste this teams talent, by waiting until were out of it to make a change. That being said were far from being out of it.

I've been hoping for this for a long long time. Bears have so many stinking needs. Woolfolk or Woolford is a guy I'd love to get with the 22 or in the second round. Very atheletic corner from Oklohoma. Marcus Trufant would be a sweet pickup too if he slid to 13 and Bailey was gone.

Critic hit it. Manuel isn't the manager for a young team. He's the kind of manager for a team full of veterans that doesn't need motivation and doesn't ocassionally need a role model to look at (In a sense). With Jerry he's not too emotional or anything along those lines, but he's very tame and not to motivating or demanding. He kind of expects things to get done. That works for a veteran team (Its Torre type style) but for a young team, they sometimes need a little kick in the ass and thats what Jerry can't do. Backman would be a great pickup as would Valentine.

Bailey is super fast. The question is will he get past the Rams at 12.

Jose needs a case of shut the heck up. When is he going to learn, clubhouse matters STAY in the clubhouse. I don't care if what he says is good or not, tell it to your teammates not the freaking media. I've never been a Jose fan, but I've tried and tried to come around to the guy. This year he's been alright offensively, horrible defensively. If opponents ever listened to me and threw Jose all curves all the time, he'd hit .100 with a ton of strikeouts. I like Jose and trying to lead, but when is he going to shut up.

According to the Jimmy Johnson draft scale chart, we have won this deal. We got 2 first rounders and most likely a 3rd for a pick that had a ton of questionmarks. The Bears have so many needs and this is a draft, where in the first three rounds there are a ton of good players and thats what makes a team good, having a lot of good players. Bears lack that right now and this draft will be an awesome way of building things. Guys like Mcgahee will be down there, Boller or Lefty could be there at 22 (Thats right 22). If Jacksonville doesn't pick a qb and Carolina doesn't (All signs say they won't) then Boller and Lefty fall all the way to the Bears 2nd 1st rounder. Bears will draft defense with 2 of the picks and maybe qb. They will draft one qb within the 1st three rounds. If its in the 3rd round it would be Ragone. Also, some talks have came up that Suggs is really going to fall, not likely all the way to 13, but its a possibility. Either way, Boss Bailey would be a sweet pick at 13 if he's there, so would Jordan Gross or Jimmy Kennedy or Mike Williams from OSU.

Thats better. Why pay huge money to a huge questionmark. This frees up more caproom and won't tie the team down. The Bears spend the money, heck, I'd say all NFL franchises spend the money.

but as baggs mention and that is what i was going at. the players picked later may not be the impact that the #4 pick would. the big d-tackle stud would be the impact player that i was thinking about. The Bears need a lot of good players, not one great player. Also, I don't think there are any impact picks there at the Bears slot other then potentially Newman. Lefty could be, but too much risk in Suggs and others. Robertson and Newman were the ones I liked. Bears have way too many needs and this is an awesome deal. Its also reported that we get a conditional 3rd rounder if things work out (In this years draft).

I've always been of the belief that MLB should forget about it. That way they could have teams that go under simply file bankrupcy instead of have to deal with all the stuff they would now. It would be much easier if a team wasn't sucessful and lost a ton of money and the owner couldn't pay the bills, for them to simply file for bankrupcy and close the doors without players permission and my understanding is they could do this.