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QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Feb 20, 2017 -> 09:25 AM) Name me a better frontcourt in the past better than Davis/Cousins? Don't give me Robinson/Duncan. Robinson was past his prime at that point and a full-blown role player by 2001. Davis and Cousins are 23 and 26. And I use shook only when it applies. It definitely applies here. The Warriors would much rather see a no-defense playing squad like Denver than this new monster. In Duncan's rookie season (97-98), both players were pretty damn good. That said, I think Davis / Cousins is one of the best front courts in a long long time. It will be interesting how they share the ball/dynamic. Hell, Marc Gasol and Zbo is one of the best front courts of the last 15 years, haha.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 20, 2017 -> 05:16 AM) Imagine if you'd woken up, and the Bulls' balls had dropped and they'd dealt the following: SAC 1 Bulls 1 2017 Bulls 1 2019 Valentine Portis McDermott for Cousins and whatever That's twice the haul and would be amazing. F*ck GarPax. They took the ASB off. I presume the Kings must have some ridiculous internal scouting reports on the players they got...but man it makes no sense and I agree with you. I saw it and literally was like, geeze, we could have made this deal.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 20, 2017 -> 03:24 AM) This is going to be nuts. Oh man, I don't want to be the Kings. If we got that return for Jimmy, I'd be done with the Bulls. Well this certainly won't help the Bulls leverage in a Butler trade. Boston already has made numerous leaks that their Nets picks aren't even on the table. What is interesting is, the Kings turned down some other offers which sounded better (specifically the Lakers offer built around Russell seems like a better deal). Kings wanted Ingram though.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Feb 19, 2017 -> 09:05 PM) I hope and pray the league doesn't step in Chris Paul to the Lakers style and veto this. Cousins/Davis will have opposing front-courts questioning why they're in the nba. They still have lots of holes, but clearly a strong front court and a great move for the Pelicans to make.

QUOTE (2005thxfrthmmrs @ Feb 19, 2017 -> 08:52 PM) Boogie Cousins to Pelicans for an underwhelming package. NOLA came out a winner this weekend. I was flabbergasted at the return the Kings got. What is even worse is, there goes any chance of that Kings pick coming to the Bulls. So not only did the Bulls lose out by not getting Cousins for a totally underwhelming package, but they also lose out on any shot they had at getting that extra pick from the Kings.

QUOTE (Jordan4life @ Feb 17, 2017 -> 09:27 AM) Dude, jason, you're my guy. BUT THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN. How many times do I have to say this? Butler is arguably the 6th best player AT HIS OWN POSITION. So that's ignoring guys like Harden, Westbrook, Curry, etc. You have to entertain offers for Butler or be content with winning 44 games and getting bounced in round 1 or 2. I have said that if the Bulls got the right offer (which would be all of the Nets picks / right to swap picks with the Nets, plus other assets from Boston...then I'll consider it).

QUOTE (StrangeSox @ Feb 17, 2017 -> 06:08 AM) Not sure if this is the right thread, but what are people doing for college savings? Are 529 plans worth it? Anything else we should be considering? I have a Utah 529 and just stick it in an age allocated fund. Put it on a monthly withdrawal for both kids. Figure start while they are young. At some point as the asset pool grows, I'll probably pull away and keep other assets in my name (but in an earmarked account for them) for the pure reason I don't want too much risk in the sense that if something were to happen to them or they ended up not going to college? Obviously funds could then get used for grand kids, etc. I know one thing...I want my kids to be responsible and work hard and be kind (and obviously be healthy), but I also want them to not to have to start their post-education life with a bunch of debt. I want them to have the best opportunity to succeed...this doesn't mean they shouldn't learn the value of the dollar (as that will be critical) and I'll want them to work through and build up that work ethic from a young age, but I don't want them graduating with college debt.

QUOTE (bmags @ Feb 16, 2017 -> 10:32 AM) The only thing we really followed was making sure he slept as much as he wanted. Got him to 4 feedings and then he was on a 7-7 schedule by week 4. Has made it all a lot simpler/easier. Wife has not had to go back to work yet though, so that's what I'm holding out for before I stop knocking on wood. We lived and breathed by schedules for our little one. In hindsight, outside of those first few weeks (due to lack of sleep and just the adjustments), they are actually their easiest at that point (less mobile, etc...haha). Plus even though there is the lack of nighttime sleep, I forgot (when we had our 2nd) how much they sleep during the day those first few months. Kids bring much joy, but they also definitely test your patience at times.

Buckets was on 1st take. I can't say enough how much I love Jimmy Buckets. Epitome of the 90 style basketball that I hold dearly in my heart. Guy has worked his tail off and I want to see the Bulls win it all with him. I love everything about Buckets!!! Maybe these comments will help everyone understand why I am so anti-trading Jimmy. I absolutely adore him.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Feb 16, 2017 -> 06:09 PM) Schwarber has played like 100 something games in his life in the outfield. I obviously have no clue if he'll ever be an average outfielder but it's pretty funny to me how quickly some on this site dismiss it. I'm with you. I wish we had a young bat like Schwarber.

Typical Bulls...beat a couple good teams after getting routed by Suns. That said, they should have beat Houston on that road trip as well. Had they not totally blown it in that Suns game, I'd have called that road trip pretty successful. It is who they are/have been under Hoiberg. I don't remember the exact stat, but I think I heard someone say that since Hoiberg has been coach the Bulls have more wins against winning teams than all but like 5 teams in the NBA or something like that. Yet we have had what, like the 15/16th most wins in the league. For example, this year, only Golden State has more wins against .500 or better teams in the NBA this year. Bulls are tied with Cleveland, Memphis and San Antonio.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 04:45 PM) Bulls are dangling McBuckets and Lopez looking for first round picks. The fact that we'd be willing to dangle Lopez is a good sign, imo. If we move him, that tells me we are looking at shaking things up a bit more then I expected. I'd also presume Taj is on the block.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 13, 2017 -> 08:48 AM) For a guy who was popping off how much losing should hurt, DWade sure seemed to be having a good time watching yesterday's blowout. There is absolutely no reason for the lack of hustle back on defense. Even if you suck you can do that. Hoi ball sucks. Hoiberg is an awful coach. I have zero doubt about that. Lack of development, consistent boneheaded plays, horrific execution out of time outs. List goes on and on. One of the worst NBA coaches I've ever seen. I could be all wrong and we could just have terrible players, but I think it goes beyond that. I wonder if Fred makes it past the all star break? So much money to eat on that contract though. Also, for those of you who haven't noticed, Tony Snell has been a solid starter for the Bucks (far better and more consistent then he ever was for the Bulls). HIS PER is nothing to write home about, but from an overall efficiency perspective he's shooting a nice three ball and playing good defense.

Seemed like a good dude who was lucky to own some sports teams that he loved and was passionate. RIP and best wishes to his family.

QUOTE (LittleHurt05 @ Feb 10, 2017 -> 10:11 AM) What's so great about Tyrod Taylor? Nothing. My view is the Bears have kicked the can on QB for forever (really until they made the strong play for Jay...which didn't work out for a variety of reasons, but it is still a play I would make). My view is we need to stop kicking the QB can down the road. Tyrod is a solid stop-gap, but we don't need stop-gap, we need an above average franchise QB and we need to keep drafting (or trading for) QB's until we get one. All that said, Tyrod is a solid QB and he can help the Bears be a playoff team sooner, but I don't see us winning a superbowl with him at the helm and we need to find a QB who can help us be that type of team. I'm still annoyed we didn't draft a QB last year.

QUOTE (Boogua @ Feb 9, 2017 -> 08:08 AM) People often talk about that 11-5 season. It's impressive, although they didn't make the playoffs, but what is overlooked is that they went 16-0 with Brady the previous season. That's a decrease of 5 wins, which is a lot of wins. He also went 3-1 without Brady this year, not 4-0. It brought him up to 19-19 overall with the Patriots when Brady hasn't started. Would Belichick have been the GOAT with another QB? I don't think so. Sorry...I guess my point was that having Brady helped make Belichick the goat and it also had an impact on Brady being a GOAT as well. I did not intend to compare Lovie with Beli as Beli is better, but more was referencing the fact that if Lovie had a QB like Brady (once he was good...I don't know that Lovie would have developed Brady into the QB he became) he would have also been pretty well. I should make things very clear, if I had to hire a head coach in this league...my three choices are Belicheck (1st) and the Harbaugh's. Pete Carroll would probably be next.

What happened to Zipser?

Watch the Bulls trade for Melo.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 8, 2017 -> 12:09 PM) And if Wade grew up in Kentucky he doesn't sign with the Bulls. All the stars aligned for that one, but that is what the Bulls can do in free agency. Sign 35 year olds who grew up Bulls fans who get lowballed by their current team. Until or unless they get a Michael or Lebron or put together what Golden State put together, big time free agents aren't coming to freeze their ass off to be a 7th or 8th seed. A If you have $58M to spend, you have a chance to convince two guys to come play with Butler at which point you are in a great spot. The problem is, how likely is it that there will be two guys available. I think the plan has to get good role players via the trade while becoming a true contender via free agency (surrounding talent around Jimmy). I'd say a key will be landing a free agent this year and then again the following year (when Wade would come off the books). If Wade ultimately walks, then it might be more critical to land two pieces immediately. Gar / Pax also have to be very very slick / smart in how they manage their assets to ensure they keep payroll flexibility while ensuring they have good enough teams to be attractive enough to the point where two guys would look at Butler and the "supporting" cast and saying, hey, this team can go from 7th seed to 1st seed. Being in a major market and the eastern conference should only help that cause, especially as Lebron is starting to get older (although still amazing).

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 8, 2017 -> 11:53 AM) They don't have the pieces to get Jahlil Okafor. I don't think we are the right team for Okafor. In a firesale, I do think I'd like to get him, but I highly doubt they want a package built around McDermott & Niko (for example). I think New Orleans makes a ton of sense for him (which is the rumor Jrue Holiday for Okafor deal) in the sense that Davis would cover up a ton of Okafor's weaknesses (i.e, that he is a defensive sieve and poor rebounder and help his strengths...which is that he looks like he can be a well above average offensive big man). The question I have is what does Philly want with Jrue...could there be a 3rd team involved to get Jrue as I could see that being the type of move the Bulls would be interested in. Trade deadline is getting closer and either Bulls need to make moves to try and get better now (probably something I wouldn't agree with unless it had a longer term benefit...ie, player around another few years) or they need to make moves to ensure they have assets in the future (ie. don't like Niko just walk, if you can get something for him that helps us down the road, do it now, before you lose an asset (and I call him that loosely at this point) for nothing. I do think with better coaching Niko is a good player (borderline starter and he easily should be a well above average bench piece).

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Feb 8, 2017 -> 12:33 PM) Obviously he's a great coach, but he was 41-55 his first 6 seasons as a HC. So there is something he either figured out coaching-wise or personnel-wise that no one else seems to grasp. Yeah...he figured that the best QB of all time can make a good coach look like a genius. I'm fairly certain if you gave Aaron Rodgers to Lovie, he'd look like a genius too, same with a lot of other coaches. Not knocking Bill, but I tend to believe he gets more credit then he deserves. The Pats have made their fare share of bad moves, including the Chandler Jones trade. They also let Wes Welker walk to sign Amedola and in hindsight I think that was a poor move.

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Feb 8, 2017 -> 11:58 AM) I was listening to the radio today and they were vehemently against the Bears trading for Jimmy G. I'd tend to agree. I think it'd be better if they drafted a QB instead of paying a premium for a 1 year rental (unless they tag/extend him). He is getting a big contract if we trade for him (pre-req for getting him). The big question I'd have is, if you are going to trade for a QB, is it Jimmy G, do you like at AJ McCarron, or do you just say screw it and offer up the #3 overall pick to Washington for Cousins and give him his big contract? I also don't know whether Washington would make that deal, part of that comes down to how amicable the two sides are in their negotiation. Cousins clearly wants to get paid top QB money and I presume he will become the highest paid QB in the league this year (not saying he's the best, just his contract will be the newest and thus in terms of guaranteed dough, he's going to get mega bucks).

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Feb 8, 2017 -> 10:56 AM) Probably. Doesn't mean he didn't sell a bill of goods to Gar If he did, that still gives the Bulls $58M or so under the cap and Jimmy Butler to sell the goods. Jimmy helped sell Wade on the Bulls.

QUOTE (Steve9347 @ Feb 8, 2017 -> 10:37 AM) Dude, Wade is absolutely opting out after this year and heading back to Miami. I don't know. Jimmy sure is pushing for Wade to stick around and Jimmy / Wade seem to be very tight. I could see Wade going to the Clippers or Cavs or something to play with one of his buddies, but I don't see him going back to Miami.

QUOTE (Y2JImmy0 @ Feb 8, 2017 -> 09:46 AM) That's a better plan than being the Memphis Grizzlies IMO. Dallas Mavericks used the "Grizzlies" strategy for a while and won a title (and should have won two). A lot of people thought the Spurs should blow up when Duncan was aging...then they hit on Kawahi and won another title (obviously they have consistently been a title contender, but there were various points where people thought the Spurs should blow it up and can't possibly continue to contend). Miami heat with just Dwade (after Shaq got old) were not going anywhere, but didn't just blow up Wade...they waited and landed mega free agents and won a couple titles. Lakers with Kobe could have blown it up (almost did when they nearly traded him to the Bulls), then after a couple years of floundering, they were able to get Pau and win another couple titles. Celtics stuck around Pierce and eventually traded for two old star players and had a little run. Not saying the Bulls will do any of those things, but plenty of REAL examples of that success. If I look at most of the world series champions in baseball over recent years, the Cubs are really the only example of a team who blew things up and got good (under a current regime). Royals I will not count because they had a eternity between playoff runs. No other team really like the "Cubs" in that sense, imo. Giants had a bunch of championships and continuously try to rebuild on the go...Cards do basically the same and Red Sox / Yanks have gigantic pocket books.