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What is the Score phone number and how long does there show go till. I'd be happy to set something up and talk briefly about our site, etc. In no way shape or form am I claiming to know more than the beat writers do. They have far more access to news and info but there are times that they might not know something that someone else does. Everything is unique.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Nov 17, 2009 -> 02:59 PM) This only makes sense if we don't expect Flowers with this organization in the near future. I commented in the further analysis section, but to me this makes sense for one of a few reasons: 1. If the Sox deemed Flowers ready offensively, they could utilize Flowers bat at DH while he continued to work with Don Cooper, AJ Pierzysnki, and Henry Blanco on the nuances of being a catcher. 2. If the Sox ultimately determined the Flowers wasn't ready (see below), the team could keep Flowers in AAA, where he can hone his offensive and defensive game. 3. The acquisition of any back-up could hypothetically allow GM Ken Williams to trade Tyler Flowers. Flowers does have the most power potential in the Sox system, but he also has some well documented swing flaws. Still, he's a safe bet to put up above average offensive numbers at the catching position, while playing league average defense, at a minimal cost.

White Sox Show Interest in Henry Blanco By Jason Gage

QUOTE (WCSox @ Nov 17, 2009 -> 02:21 PM) Lots of truth to this. Honestly, what skills does Cowley have that the average college graduate with a passion for baseball doesn't? Well, that's the entire point of blogs: they're independent. The media conglomerates have a presence on the internet as well, but that doesn't mean that they control the medium. I will point out that the Tribune in no way shape or form tells us what we put up on our blog. We are completely independent of the newspaper.

http://sandiego.padres.mlb.com/news/articl...jsp&c_id=sd Padres beat writer talks about the rumors. Nowhere in there does he shoot anything down. Doesn't verify it either, but interesting to say the least.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Nov 17, 2009 -> 12:20 PM) I have many back and forths with him where we basically attacked each other over the course of weeks. He's a douche. Nothing professional will ever come back to you from him. This is a guy who was ousted by his own peers from voting for awards in the very subject he "reports" on. He doesnt even have the access to the clubhouse he claims, and this is backed up by several players comments to me personally. After getting his response, I understand exactly what you are talking about. I'm not going to even going to put it up, but it makes his initial comments look mature.

Wait, are they letting go of Bowe? NM: Suspension

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Nov 17, 2009 -> 11:05 AM) Are you a Next Generation fan, Chisoxfn, or an Enterprise guy? Depending on your answer i have lost a lot of respect for you as both a human being and as a source. I don't even know the difference. I do like Lost though!!!!

QUOTE (longshot7 @ Nov 17, 2009 -> 11:04 AM) Okay, we will agree to disagree, since I know you follow the Angels as close as I do. All I'm saying is there are no indications in any of the media I've seen that the Angels are looking to fill their DH vacancy from outside their organization, given their commitment to Morales and the glut of outfielders they already have. From all indications, the Angels are not going to be big spenders this offseason and there is a lot of speculation whether or not they'll be able to sign their own free agents (Lackey & Figgins) and fill their pitching holes. I would love for the Sox to trade for Gonzalez and to do so they would have to move Konerko. I just don't see the Angels are a trade partner. If this happens, I will eat major crow. The Angels have been reportedly interested in Matt Holliday. I'm not saying that Konerko makes a lot of sense and if I were the Angels I'd look at other options before looking at Konerko. But neither me or you know exactly what the Angels thoughts are on Konerko. Prior evidence would indicate that the Angels think pretty highly of him, but again, that could have changed when Reagins took over. We also don't know what the Sox offer to the Angels was. Were we sending substantive cash, were we getting back a contract? We don't really know those details so I think to write-off the possibilities as zero would be incorrect. I personally don't see this trade going through but I think the Sox and Padres will be talking to each other a lot (up until Adrian is gone) because Adrian would be a tremendous fit for this offense. And my guess is Kenny will be calling a whole lot of other teams (and probably go back to the Angels again) to see if he can get another team to take on a contract as part of the trade so that he can be flexible. Doesn't mean it will happen, but it also mean the discussions didn't happen and I've yet to really see anyone dispute that this discussions have taken place. I believe one San Diego reporter indicated that nothing was going on and that could very well be true. We are reporting the facts as we know them and that is that the teams had discussions. Take it for what it is worth.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Nov 17, 2009 -> 10:59 AM) I find our fan bases (not Soxtalk) inability to grasp that GM’s talk all manner of trades all the time, rather unbearable. Hell, Jim from Soxmachine (a guys whose opinions I really do respect.) basically writes off the rumor without even offering analysis. The problem here is that no one is doing their jobs. Offer some form of counter opinion, tell me why you don't find the rumor plausible, becasue if you don't your thought is just as invalid as you claim Soxnets to be. Don't write something off just because it's easier to do it that way. Exactly. The whole point of the article from our perspective was to inform the fans of what we have heard. We were not reporting a trade, rather that discussions have been had and those were the names. We never went any further to even indicate it was a done deal, in fact, we went out of the way to report that it wasn't. We than offer our own speculation as to the trade and than Mark Gonzalez of the tribune did a great pro/con type of piece on the SoxNet report. Cowley could have done something similar or went to his sources, collected quotes, and written to that fact. That would be writing, but anything else is really really baseless, unprofessional and completely disrespectful.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Nov 17, 2009 -> 10:53 AM) So I assume your silence with regard to the "trekkie" comment is an admission? Haha, I will admit, I've seen a couple of the movies....and never seen any single TV episode of star trek in full.

SoxNet Responds to Cowley's Attacks

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Nov 17, 2009 -> 10:37 AM) This isnt idle speculation, but rather a confirmed talk. You obviously have decided you dont believe it, so leave it at that. Longshot....did the Angels try to sign Konerko years ago, yes. Have the Angels been long-tied to Konerko in rumors pretty much every year since he ultimately signed with the White Sox...yes. So how you go as far as saying the Angels would have no interest in Konerko is pretty ridiculous.

My Email to Cowley:

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Nov 17, 2009 -> 09:47 AM) MG's artcile is well written Mark Gonzales - "a team source acknowledged last month that the club has had interest in Gonzalez in previous years." Is this the first he's mentioned what his source told him? If so, it only backs up the SoxNet info. He might have just been keeping the info under wraps, but now that it's out he can say it. Add in the fact that there was the radio report last week indicating that someones San Diego sources had indicated the two teams have had talks.

QUOTE (danman31 @ Nov 16, 2009 -> 11:28 PM) Jason is about to be really excited or really crushed. Excited is the winner. That was a battle of 2 mid-majors though. UCLA has no talent. How did that happen? By awesomeness!!!!

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Nov 16, 2009 -> 09:27 PM) The UCLA-Fullerton game is very entertaining for all the wrong reasons. CAL...STATE....FULLERTON!!!!!

Joe Cowley has received an email.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Nov 17, 2009 -> 09:12 AM) But was this just a case where KW called and asked about the availability of a player or threw out an offer that was immediately rejected? Seems like there would be 100s of these types of calls going on throughout the season with several teams. Not sure why this one needed to be singled out and artificially elevated to its current status. I mean look at this 400 post thread. What is it all based on? It is the off-season. Do you see the other 400 post thread on Adrian Gonzalez which was based upon pure speculation. This thread is based upon a report that the teams had talks, nothing more, nothing less. Peter Gammons reports this type of stuff all the time. Bruce Levine does too. They get s*** for it quite often and most of the time it is unwarranted. The fact that some people jump to the conclusions and think that preliminary talks mean done deal is preposterious. It just shows that the club has interest in Adrian Gonzalez and they have tried to get him.

Very few of all trade talks amount to anything more than that, talks. We as fans want to know those talks so when we at Soxtalk/SoxNet become privy to something we try to pass it on to you guys/gals. I don't know where the heck, people jump to conclusions and ultimately decide that we are saying this deal is done or even close to being done or even on Ken Williams' priority list. We don't know enough to decide that is the case, we know we are confident in our source who provided us with the info and we also know that what our source indicated is consistent with other members of the media: - A Chicago Radio Report this past week cited San Diego sources, which indicated the two teams have had talks regarding Adrian Gonzalez - Joe Cowley, whose level I refuse to stoop to, twittered today that he reported the Sox tried to have talks with the Pads back on Oct 6th - Mark Gonzalez indicated yesterday that a month ago his sources within the Sox confirmed the clubs interest in Adrian Gonzalez Clearly the teams are interested, clearly the need is there (from the Sox perspective and the Padres perspective), the question is will a deal ultimately get done? We can only assume the Angels were called in and became part of an expanded package and I wouldn't be surprised to eventually learn that Kenny has talked to a number of other teams (to get in as a 3rd player) to try to and make an Adrian Gonzalez to the Sox move a reality.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Nov 17, 2009 -> 09:02 AM) To get the scoop. It's basic reporting. if you have a source.. and preferably two or three sources that tell you the same thing... you run with it. I dont know if SoxNet was using a single source, or multiple, but if they believe they can trust the person, you run with it. We ran with it as is, based our info and reported it to ensure that no one thought this was a done deal. The fact that the teams have had discussions is relevant, where they go and what ultimately happens, I don't know, but the fact that they had them is newsworthy, imo. At least for fans that want to know what the club is trying to do.

Great piece from Gonzalez. Clearly these are the interesting aspects of the trade and it is important that we indicate we only are verifying the prelim discussions. Gonzalez breaks out the reasons the deal wouldn't happen, but he also points out the Padres interest in a SP, CF, C, and 2B. The Sox have 3 prospects that fill 3 of those needs and they happen to be our top 3 prospects. Bottom line, there is a lot of stuff in our system that would interest the Padres. The question is can the Sox take the risk and will they completely take a shot on Gonzalez putting them over the top for the next two years, because after that, it is highly unlikely the Sox brass would spend the necessary money to keep Gonzalez on the south-side.

QUOTE (nitetrain8601 @ Nov 16, 2009 -> 01:13 PM) I don't think it's a good idea to go to the media outlets for things like this. If you're wrong, guess who guesses gets ridiculed? The same people who probably won't want to come out with any rumors in future dates. Also, I've always had the thought, that if national media gets ahold of it, that the other teams who really want said player, will try even harder to get things done faster. Hopefully it goes through, but I don't see it happening. It doesn't make enough sense from the Angels' perspective. The key to me is that I have a theory that the Angels part is an expanded piece of the deal and that in general the majority of the deal could be done without the Angels getting involved. Although I think Kenny would like some improved flexibility and is trying to get creative so that he can clear payroll to fill some other holes while holding onto an extra prospect or two.

QUOTE (Princess Dye @ Nov 16, 2009 -> 12:53 PM) Can Jared Mitchell be traded? Nope.

The story has been updated a bit with our idol speculation and analysis: http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/soxnet/200...-prospects.html