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QUOTE(Soxy @ Feb 15, 2006 -> 05:33 PM) He shot someone in the face. That's worthy of an investigation. I don't care if it's Jesus Christ or Muhummad or the VP of the US that pulled the trigger, that deserves an investigation. And, I personally, believe that if you're going to go hunting you should thoroughly check out local laws and rules. Of course, some of that should fall on the ranch owner, but Cheney is a big boy and perfectly capable to make sure he's in the clear to shoot those vicious pen raised birds. . . Those vicious pen raised birds are wild. They're only fattened up so that they may be eaten after they're shot. Supposedly. My contention is that it WAS investigated. The sheriff's department was called VERY shortly after the accident. The MEDIA wasn't notified, and that is why all the BS coverage ever since. More of the media crap is 'why the coverup' (when there really wasn't one) then the actual shooting itself now.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Feb 15, 2006 -> 05:29 PM) Do me 1 favor...don't clump me in with whatever group you're opposing there. To this day I still think Clinton should have resigned in '98, based entirely on what he did during his "Personal" time, if you can call it that. I didn't mean YOU personally, my bad, but the thinking in general.

QUOTE(Soxy @ Feb 15, 2006 -> 05:28 PM) As long as its consensual I agree with that (but what do I know, I'm just a liberal. . .). If a CRIME is committed on personal time of course it matters. And no crime was committed (oh, he didn't have a 'stamp' - a law that went into effect 5 months ago and most hunters around here didn't even know about it and i live here). So what's the story again?

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Feb 15, 2006 -> 05:23 PM) Are you the Vice President of the United States? It doesn't matter. According to you liberals, what is done on PERSONAL time, shouldn't matter. Hmmmmmm.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 15, 2006 -> 04:30 PM) I was trying to point out to you - these talking heads are not the same as "the media". News is reported by reporters, and they aren't always out to get even with people. And I guess I don't see where you are getting this big conspiracy thing. Do I think that the Vice President shooting someone is a bigger story than a former VP giving a questionable speech? Of course I do! And so do most Americans, as is made clear by how often people are clicking those links on CNN and MSNBC and what not. This is not some vast liberal conspiracy. There are undoubtedly some people who dislike Cheney, but taking his name out of the picture, this is still a pretty big story. No it's not. It's been MADE INTO a big story. If I shot you in the face for a hunting accident, it wouldn't get written on the back of toilet paper.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Feb 15, 2006 -> 03:17 PM) Kap, you sound just like the conspiracy theorists you are complaining about going after Cheney. Columnists and talking heads tend to enflame - that I grant you. Its their role. Stop there. That's it. That's my point. They are there to enflame, and basically be a hemmoroid. Nothing more, nothing less. And when the big boys got 'scooped', now they're going to get EVEN with this 'BASTARD'. It's wrong, despicable, idiotic, whatever lame metaphor you want to use. We have a former VP basically committing treason (well, that might be a little strong, but his words in such a speech were CALCULATED) in another country, and we have a hunting accident in this country. Which is the bigger story? Oh gee, I wonder why?

QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Feb 15, 2006 -> 03:13 PM) Exactly. Not to hype up anything but to misdirect attention away from their f***ups. And its our allies who are doing it. I was going to mention that... Pakistan is about the heart of it all right now. It's clearly an example of why in the long run, this will become even deadlier then it is now.

QUOTE(kyyle23 @ Feb 15, 2006 -> 03:01 PM) Im with you SS2K, it doesnt make sense to me. Some Danish cartooners make offensive cartoons and next thing you know Pakistanis are burning effigies of George Bush and tearing up (sniff*sniff*tear*) KFC's. There has to be someone somewhere whispering in these peoples ears that America is behind this, because they are all kinds of fired up. Sure there's sniffings of it. The governments of tyranny over there are using this to hype up the fatwahs.

Freedom of Speech! Gore was robbed! He's RIGHT! Just look at the drivel posted on here on a daily basis. It pretty much confirms it, doesn't it?

QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ Feb 15, 2006 -> 02:11 PM) The media's Cheney hunt Feb 15, 2006 by Brent Bozell Once it was clear that the man sprinkled with birdshot would survive, Vice President Cheney's hunting accident was widely expected to become a late-night comedian's bonanza, a frenzy like Wal-Mart shoppers scrambling for $29 DVD players. As "Today" replayed the comedian clips on Tuesday, NBC's Matt Lauer asked, "Had a feeling that was coming, didn't you?" Katie Couric replied: "Well, I mean when you heard the story you just knew they were gonna go crazy with it, so they did." With apologies to the Cheney friend who received the pellet facial, the incident was funny. Now we learn the vice president received a warning citation from a Texas Ranger for not buying a $7 hunting stamp in advance. As a friend e-mailed me, "Where else can you shoot a lawyer in the face with a shotgun and get off with just a warning?" What really shocked people was the way our Cheney-hating press corps went crazy with it. The Big Three networks aired 34 stories in the first 48 hours of evening and morning newscasts. They treated this not as a mishap, and then a punchline, but as a brewing national scandal. The 18-hour delay in alerting the media! The failure to pay a $7 hunting stamp! "Questions remain"! "White House under fire"! "Growing political fallout"! The focus of the story quickly shifted from an embarrassed Cheney to the shamelessly egotistical press corps. Look no further for a poster boy for egotism than NBC White House reporter David Gregory, who was captured in an untelevised morning "gaggle" in the briefing room Monday morning yelling at Bush spokesman Scott McClellan. First, he accused the spokesman of "ducking and weaving," leading McClellan to quip that he should emote later, when the cameras were on. "Don't accuse me of trying to pose to the cameras!'' Gregory shot back. "Don't be a jerk to me personally when I'm asking you a serious question!'' McClellan said, "You don't have to yell," and Gregory replied, "I will yell! If you want to use that podium to try to take shots at me personally, which I don't appreciate, then I will raise my voice, because that's wrong!'' In how many ways is this a joke? These reporters take shots at McClellan and the rest of the administration on a daily basis, in the briefing room, and in their news coverage. Some of those shots are quite personal. But how dare the president's spokesman lecture them! The incivility of it all! Then came the televised briefing on Monday afternoon. It's been a while since the cable networks aired one live, but it's not every day that the vice president caps his friend, so they made an exception. In retrospect, I bet they wish they hadn't. These reporters looked like a "Saturday Night Live" skit with the goofy questions they asked. They started with huffing and puffing about their own territorial prerogatives, that the survival of America is hanging by a thread, and that thread is the press, which must be updated minute by minute. Terence Hunt of the Associated Press insisted, "Isn't there a public disclosure requirement that should have kicked in immediately?" (Quick answer: There is no "requirement," period.) Gregory protested, "The vice president of the United States accidentally shoots a man and he feels that it's appropriate for a ranch owner who witnessed this to tell the local Corpus Christi newspaper, and not the White House press corps at large, or notify the public in a national way?" Several questioners fussed over how it was not "appropriate" for a "private citizen" to alert the media. The outrage was palpable. How dare the Corpus Christi Caller-Times get the scoop before we did! We are the national news media, and we must not be overlooked on a major breaking story on quail hunting. The divas were denied, and they were cranky. From there, it just got sillier and sillier, with questions like: "Is it proper for the vice president to offer his resignation, or has he offered his resignation?" And: "Scott, under Texas law, is this kind of accidental shooting a possible criminal offense?" By this time, you just wanted to buy McClellan a beer. Meanwhile, over the weekend, former vice president Al Gore went to Saudi Arabia and denounced the U.S. government for committing "terrible abuses" against Arabs after 9/11, that Arabs had been "indiscriminately rounded up" and held in "unforgivable" conditions. Gore made no mention of the "terrible abuses" the Saudi tyrants commit, perhaps because it would be unseemly to insult his host on his home turf. So instead he used his host's home turf to insult his own country. No one asked about that at the White House. Most media outlets had no time or space for it. They were too busy covering the far more important Dick Cheney Quail Shooting Scandal. Absolutely.Dead.On

QUOTE(Texsox @ Feb 15, 2006 -> 04:20 AM) LMAO. Let's look at two events Bill Clinton accepts a blow job, and we invest hundreds of millions of dollars and a special prosecutor, and hold impeachment proceedings. Vince Fosters name comes up. The Veep shoots a man, and the press should STFU No need to investigate, trust the government on this one. Nothing here, look the other way. Nothing serious. gotta love us Americans. You're twisting my point, as usual. The media is a bunch of lazy bastards who have vendettas against people who 'wrong' them. I don't care who, what party affiliation, what the circumstances are, it's true.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Feb 15, 2006 -> 02:34 AM) No, occassionaly, you understand one :banghead :banghead :banghead :finger

QUOTE(Texsox @ Feb 15, 2006 -> 02:31 AM) By the way, who does the press publish for? Each other or the public? When someone sends f*** you to the press, they are saying f*** you to their readers and viewers, which I believe is everyone here. So we could have a situation where the Demheads say STFU about Monica and the GOPerheads say STFU about the Veep in an accidental shooting. When we allow the STFUs to continue, we voluntarily give away one of our freedoms, that of an open and free press. Yea, I give a STFU and a "f*** you" to the press. LOUDLY. You know why? Because these f***s, none of them, have any integrity anymore. NONE. They're a bunch of spoon fed, hypcritical f***balls who all try to scoop each other but don't want to work for it. On top of that, they all have their own agendas to "get that break". I have no respect for these asswipes. And let me be clear, I mean "old" AND "new" media. If ANY of these slimeballs had ANY integrity, maybe I wouldn't feel this way. In hearing the snippets of news on my traffic station, I'm completely disgusted by ALL of these assholes and how they are handling this story, and it's not just this one, it's every story.

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QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Feb 15, 2006 -> 01:10 AM) Naawwwww, they'd rather see him forced to resign. On the subject of the cover up, I don't know what the big deal is. Governments always try to cover up bad news. You're exactly right... and the worse the news is, the more they can push the issue. It's pathetic. PATHETIC.

QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Feb 15, 2006 -> 01:04 AM) Former Reagan and Bush press secretary says that Cheney ignored his responsibility to the American people to Editor and Publisher today. http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/ne...t_id=1001996613 I hate to do this, because now I'm switching the topic back to Clinton. *sigh* - but it's an easy target. What about the whole Vince Foster mess? How long was it before that story broke? What about Monica? The only reason that kept going as long as it did is because the press secretary went out there and lied for months about what really happened. So now on this issue, incidentally, the sheriff was called pretty quickly, and the report's filed, yet OMG the MEDIA didn't know. STFU already. It's all about perspective. And as usual, the press corps want a piece of ass because they were 'scooped'. f*** them.

QUOTE(Texsox @ Feb 14, 2006 -> 11:36 PM) In all fairness to the list of worst, we have a pretty damn good record of electijg Presidents, I believe even our worse would kick the crap out of most of the world's leaders. That's a very good point. Occassionaly, you have those.

QUOTE(KipWellsFan @ Feb 15, 2006 -> 01:00 AM) Lawrence O'Donnell: Was Cheney Drunk? http://news.yahoo.com/s/huffpost/20060214/...wN5bnN1YmNhdA-- You may remember O'Donnell for being the first to name Rove as source for Matt Cooper's TIME story. They want him to be drunk so bad they can taste it. And you know what else? I almost think the f***ing media wants this guy to die. Go ahead, flame me, but the way these f***ers are pressing on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... ... just because some little ass newspaper found out first. OMG!!! CONSPIRACY! GMAFB. This discussion is so f***ed up.

Well, I met my wife 'online'. The funny thing was, my ex-girlfriend signed me up for it sort of as a joke. Actually she was the one that was (at least) pyscho looking back. I don't think my wife is pyscho or going to kill me, at least the last time I checked.

I forget which game it was, I think it was the Cleveland game after they clinched in Detroit, and he got the start. Everyone watching, on tv, Cleveland, hell, EVERYONE knew that 3 straight fastballs, eyeball high, were coming, and he swung right through them with that ugly ass swing of his. That was enough for me to see of Joe Borchard, because after a taste of MLB, he STILL can't lay off the high fastball. The game is about adjustments and how to overcome your weaknesses. JoBo can't adjust. Enough said.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Feb 14, 2006 -> 10:31 PM) Where did you get your MBA? I've got two trimesters to go after this one - I'll be done with it in November of this year. Getting it at University of Dallas. But I currently have my master's degree in accounting from Manchester College which is in northern IN.

QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Feb 14, 2006 -> 10:21 PM) Well he was in the military. Colonel ...

QUOTE(Steff @ Feb 14, 2006 -> 10:08 PM) http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0206/301210.html Towson, Md. (AP) - Baltimore County Police found 27-year-old Josie Phyllis Brown of Buena Vista Lane dead last night at an interchange near Interstate 95 and Interstate 695 in Arbutus.They have charged a Catonsville man whom she met on a popular Internet Web site with first-degree murder. John Gaumer, 22, is being held without bail. Gaumer lives on the University of Maryland Baltimore County campus, but it's not clear if he was a student there. The woman was reported missing last month in Baltimore City. Police say Gaumer was developed as a suspect in her disappearance and admitted he killed her. According to County Police spokesman Bill Toohey, Gaumer said he met the woman on the Myspace.com Web site and took her on a date Dec. 28. Gaumer told police they started arguing in his car and he left the woman on the ramp from southbound I-95 to the Inner Loop of the Baltimore Beltway. Gaumer told police he returned, there was another argument, and he admitted throwing the woman down an embankment and beating her with a blunt object. Damn. That's crazy.

QUOTE(Rex Kickass @ Feb 14, 2006 -> 09:57 PM) Not you, I meant Paul Hackett's "stabbing in the back" comment. Fine. I'M ANGRY. YOU SUCK.

Boz, Barrons is the way to go. This is coming from hearing a lot of people talk about it in my MBA program. Personally, I didn't have to take the exam this time when I got in to grad school since I already have a master's. However, I took the thing back in 1995 - didn't crack a book and I think I got 550's on each IIRC. It's not too bad.