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So, sometimes it takes my mind a little while to connect all the dots, but follow me on this. When the bailout was first proposed, he was really wishy-washy on if he supported it or not. I believe he now has always fully opposed the bailout, but he couldnt say that because politically it would look HORRIBLE. It would make him look like he didnt care about the economy. And if he had to vote for it... it would not be good to his base. If he voted against it... he doesnt care about the economy. So, he took the fence. When it looked like they might be making some progress and there might be a bill to vote on... a bill he opposes, he decided he didnt like that idea. So, he "suspended" his campaign and rushed to Washington to secretly destroy the deal in hopes he can be the "hero" by proposing a bill that is far less big government. Whether you are for or against the bailout, McCain never intended bi-partisanship. He went there to save his butt.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 05:33 PM) Best thing he's done in years. ahhh but he said he was going to Washington to work on a Bipartisan deal. When he got to Washington and there WAS a bi-partisan deal... instead of working to get the deal passed.... he came in with the intended goal to destroy the deal. Not really bi-partisan.

Looks like McCain Came to Washington to Destroy the Current Proposal:

Obama's camp, after sniping at McCain's "suspension," dismisses it this evening as a stunt in a memo to the press:

Wow. Bob Casey on MSNBC just said that they were close to a deal on the bailout, then McCain showed up... and all of a sudden things started to fall apart. hmm.... And a reporter on MSNBC (Howard Fineman) is saying right now that after John McCain came in and started talking to people, including John Banner (sp??), Banner came out and said the deal was off. Harry Reid is about ready to come out and hold a press conference saying McCain is screwing over the deal and parachuted into a fire fight in his own party and only made the situation WORSE.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 03:20 PM) Wiith all due respect why in the world do you "love" Swish? well, ok, I wouldn't say i "love" him. but i do like him a lot. He's been very inconsistent this year. But I think he has some really good potential. He'll never be outstanding, but he's good enough to be a cog in the team.

For What It's Worth:

QUOTE (lostfan @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 04:41 PM) Right. What DukeNukeEm posted in the Dem thread with all the state polls is a lot closer to what the election looks like. Correct. And if you look at the state polls, Obama is getting stronger. Many of the swing states (MI, WI, PA, OH, VA, CO) were very tight. Often within 1-3 points one way or the other. Now, he seems to be opening up a sligtly more solid lead in may of those. Here's a RCP Recap of key swing states: OH: McCain +1.2 (polls are all over the place in this states) PA: Obama +3.7 MI: Obama +5.5 (A little bigger if you through out the ONLY poll that shows McCain with a lead there) WI: Obama +3.8 (Obama did once hold a 10+ point lead here) NH: Obama +1.6 VA: McCain +0.8 (polls my not reflect the HUGE surge Democratic voter registration in this state) FL: McCain +2.1 (McCain has held a 2-4 point lead here most of the campaign) CO: Obama +5.4 NM: Obama +6.0 (Obama has held a solid lead here) NV: McCain +1.7 (This race has been close for a while) MN: Obama +2.8 NC: McCain +3.2 (Once recent poll has McCain +17. If you throw that out, it's Obama +0.2) This RCP state rundown doesn't include the variable of near ties of VA and NC. So, my "slightly" biased opinion is that Obama is a better striking position to run away with the election in an electoral landslide than McCain is in to just simply win by one electoral vote.

QUOTE (Soxbadger @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 04:56 PM) Its just the sample size compared to the size of the national population. Any day they can get a sampling that leans one way or the other. Exactly. i think many of the polls are in the 2000-3000 range? 3000 people to represent 100+ million who could vote? Not good. Compare that to some polls that do 1000-1500 for a single state.

QUOTE (LVSoxFan @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 11:06 AM) Whether we get in or not, it's time to blow this team up. I was thinking that last night while watching the game. The part that frustrates me is the "station to station" / Long ball only hitters that take up spots 3-6 or 3-7 depending on the lineup. We have Konerko, JD, Griff Jr, Thome and Pierzynski. They are largely station to station runners. THey are station to station runners who tend to think homer first. That doesnt really give us much of a chance to big inning rallies. I love OC, Ramirez, and Swish (he's had an off year). Add in Pierzynski and that is a nice "grinder" core to build around. Throw in CQ and I like the team a lot.

Interesting take: Is McCain attending as the Republican candidate for president, or as a Senator looking to solve a legislative impasse? According to a list of attendees circulating for today's White House meeting, McCain is bringing a campaign aide, while Obama's bringing a Senate staffer.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 12:00 PM) how long until McCain takes credit for this? Apparently only a few hours:

Remember, her "experience" as Gov is roughly 83 days she was actually in the capital. The other 300+ days were spent at home.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 12:58 PM) well, looks like McCain is going to the debate Suntimes is reporting a deal has been reached http://www.suntimes.com/news/nation/118472...t092508.article how long until McCain takes credit for this? Because, there wasnt a deal until he threatened to show up.

"Fundamental agreement" reached on bailout Glad to see McCain got in there to get this thing done. It would have been lost without him.

QUOTE (mr_genius @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 11:23 AM) Hmm, I see the new Obamatron software patch included stealing my robotics based jokes. We adapt. Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.

AAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! ok, I feel better now.

Obama Will Make Debate A Townhall If McCain Doesn't Show

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 10:57 AM) So if that were to happen and Barr were invited as a replacement, Obama would get free airtime to millions of viewers to spell out his goals as President and Barr would get a free opportunity to introduce himself to America. Win/Win for the Obama campaign. i doubt Barr would be invited. Call my cynical, but McCain would b**** and moan to no end and say the media has it in for him... blah blah blah. It wont happen.

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 10:52 AM) What I'm saying is what if Obama shows up to the debate and McCain doesn't thus allowing Obama to debate Barr? Barr would get a nation wide audience to hear his views and since his constituency is mostly conservative, McCain's absence could blow up in his face. CNN (via HuffingtonPost):

QUOTE (BigSqwert @ Sep 25, 2008 -> 10:43 AM) LINK If this were to happen it would be a death blow for McCain. Giving Barr a spotlight will eat into McCain votes. Sweet. Great idea. I actually hate the 2 party debates. I'd open it up to the "main 3" (Barr, Obama and McCain) and maybe even throw in Ralph Nader to be fair.

So, McCain is marching into Washington to fix a plan he has never read. Yea.....

North Carolina: Toss Up State? WOW! The four latest polls out of North Carolina show McCain +1, a tie, a tie and Obama +2.

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