HuskyCaucasian

QUOTE(MurcieOne @ Jan 3, 2008 -> 09:42 PM) Huckabee is undeniably the most talented orator on either side, the speech he's giving right now sounds very sincere. wait until Obama speaks.

QUOTE(DBAH0 @ Jan 3, 2008 -> 09:37 PM) So biggest winners and losers in both parties from tonight's result? Romney took a HUGE hit tonight. It's going to be hard for him to recover. McCain was a winner. he wasn't competing hard there, but landed 3rd and might win NH. Edwards... hmm... not sure. might be a looser. Clinton will hold strong in NH, but some Edwards supports might flock to Obama.

NBC reports that Dodd is dropping out.

Jeez, Hillary propped up the corpse looking Madeline Albright behind her.

QUOTE(GoSox05 @ Jan 3, 2008 -> 09:00 PM) What is a good website to look at polls? I rely on RealClearPolitics. But you have to be a careful consumer. They have some "fringe" polls that have been far from accurate.

QUOTE(GoSox05 @ Jan 3, 2008 -> 08:57 PM) If Obama won the nomination, you think Edwards would settle for VP again? Wont be edwards. of the current candidates, Richardson would be the favorite in my opinion. But i think Bloomberg might be a sleeper

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jan 3, 2008 -> 08:56 PM) If you're not on a college campus, or in like DM, CR or Waterloo, it's like winter there's so much white. oh I know. My wife's family is from between Iowa City and CR. It's snow land.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jan 3, 2008 -> 08:49 PM) Jack Caferty says Iowa is white. Really? I have a joke about that actually. I had classmate in college that was black and we used to talk all the time. I made a joke about iowa being white and having NEVER seen an black person in Iowa all the times I had been there. He laughed. One day I was driving through Coralville and heard this car pull up next to me with the bass CRANKED. I looked over, it was 2 black people!!! I went back to school that next week and told him and he high-fived me. it was funny. Stupid story, but shows your point.

QUOTE(Mplssoxfan @ Jan 3, 2008 -> 08:43 PM) If Hillary ends up finishing third, that will set up a "Comeback Kid" scenario in New Hampshire. Don't like that one single bit. Cant be the comeback kid when you have pretty much acted as the defacto winner the past 6 months.

Could the Clinton News Network pick a less flattering picture?

MSNBC Projects Obama to win Iowa!!!!!!

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jan 3, 2008 -> 08:19 PM) Anyone watching on CNN.com? yea, what about it? (I am flipping between CNN and MSNBC. I plan on putting together a MSNBC highlight video if Obama wins)

Go Obama Go! Obama is pulling away. 439 (35%) 399 (31%) 394 (31%) 61% reporting

QUOTE(mr_genius @ Jan 3, 2008 -> 05:55 PM) Maybe he is just a Democrat that doesn't like Hillary Clinton. Which is what? 60-70% of the democrats?

Who is DLS?

QUOTE(whitesoxfan101 @ Jan 3, 2008 -> 11:07 AM) Question for those smarter than me on politics (everybody who has posted in this thread, in other words): Just how important is the Iowa Caucus? I know it's the first one and happens here at the start of the year of the election, but what happens tonight matter as much as the media is making it seem like? Thanks in advance for any help you can give to a novice here. I dont have the total history, but here it goes... Iowa is important because the media and the democratic party say it is. It's about momentum. In 2004 Kerry was I think 3rd or worse in iowa and NH. But he sprung ahead in Iowa and WON. The NH Primary a few days (maybe a week) later, Kerry won that. It's all about momentum. It doesnt mean everything, but it CAN. Iowa is important, but if the democratic party could make Idaho, Illinois, Texas, Nebraska more important if they really wanted to. Why is Iowa important? i dunno. Some argue they are the "real america" Or, a broad sampling that represents the rest of the country. I dont know how true that is.

QUOTE(vandy125 @ Jan 3, 2008 -> 11:07 AM) I'm looking forward to going! 6:30 pm! (Never thought that I would look forward to it) I wish i lived in iowa

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jan 3, 2008 -> 10:55 AM) I agree, and I'm being serious. You think George W. Bush has destroyed this country? Hillary will run it to hell. I don't think I would go THAT far, but i think she would continue to divide the country. She can be very divisive (might be just perception, might be reality, i don't know)

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jan 3, 2008 -> 09:25 AM) If Clinton finishes third (or worse, ESPECIALLY worse)... :) It will make my day. Hillary + Third = A VERY happy AtHomeBoy

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jan 3, 2008 -> 10:07 AM) And by the way, Bloomberg says he won't run. Obama's VP maybe? They did have that secret breakfast.

This is how it was just explained to me by my mother-in-law. (names changed to protect the innocent) The land originally belonged to Mike and James -- (James) will and Mike's said it went to their wives for a life estate and then to the 6 heirs (my wife's grandmother and her brother and cousins) --- so that is why it is in the life estate. But, upon James' wife's death it immediately went to the 6 heirs - she has always gotten 50% of the proceeds of the farm rent and any other income (Mike's wife did too until she passed on and that is when the 6 heirs took that 50%). But, as soon as James' wife died it went to the others and we got a check for what was in the trust set up for her estate already -- so she no longer has the ownership in the farm --- that was all done in Mike and James' wills (which my wife's father has). The name on the deed of the land is James' wife. Does that make sense?

The name on the deed is a now deceased relative who had no children. It's not the original owner, but a wife of a descendant.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 2, 2008 -> 01:16 PM) Yeah, that's beyond my level of understanding... but it sure seems like that would be against the legal documentation. I assume that an attorney was used as executor of the will with the division of ownership - that might be your best place to start. Yea, they have been using a lawyer to "manage" the land issues. However, they have become disenfranchised with him as he just doesn't seem to care about it anymore and he is getting old (doesnt even own a computer). So, they are going to consult another lawyer who might actually want to work this rather than just say "yea, whatever that guys says is ok". My personal feeling is that what the guy is trying to do isnt legal, but he is hoping you wont try to fight it and just cave to his demands.

QUOTE(NorthSideSox72 @ Jan 2, 2008 -> 12:54 PM) Then that is where you start - the person whose name is actually on the will. He/she owns the land, and the only exceptions to ownership are any legal agreements (documented) that he/she knowingly made. Follow the trail from there. If she didn't do anything legally documented to split the land, then its hers to do with as she pleases - as I understand it. But if I were you, once you figure out where that trail ends, I'd talk to a lawyer (probably someone who works probate). In the meantime, if you want to stop the sale, if you find out whose name is on the title, you can always point out to them that only the owner of property can sell it. even if they tried, when the buyer's title search was done, they'd find the seller wasn't the owner, and that would be the end of that deal (unless the buyers are stupid enough to not buy title insurance). thanks so much for the help. It is my understanding that the ownership of the land is not really in dispute. It's document through wills who owns what share (they all co-own the land). The problem comes with how a 32% ownership can force the sale when 68% don't want to or are indifferent.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Jan 2, 2008 -> 12:03 PM) It's probably not going to happen... at least for a while. I would argue Obama or Edwards would make this a high priority. The problem is they wont take office until 2009 and nothing firm would be done until 2010 and even then it's a transition process of 5-10 years.