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QUOTE(Linnwood @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 01:52 PM) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Major...Mitchell_Report DAMN! well done to all who complied that.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 01:49 PM) That sounds like he was asking someone else to inject him. no no. you mised the context. "he observed two of his Chicago Cubs teammates inject themselves with steroids in an apartment....He said that one of the players brought the steroids to the apartment but was afraid of needles and therefore asked the second player to administer the shot.' What he is saying that Player A brought them but didnt like needless, so Player B injected Player A while Karchner watched.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 01:46 PM) But the phrase earlier printed in this thread presents him as both a supplier and as a user. I would certainly count him. It says he was OFFERED them and saw them used, no direct evidence that he used them.

QUOTE(longshot7 @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 01:41 PM) See, the problem with a list like this is the example of Matt Karchner. He's in the report as someone who willingly talked to the panel about members of the 1999 Chicago Cubs he personally saw inject - not because he himself used. Good catch. I'll remove him.

QUOTE(Controlled Chaos @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 01:40 PM) It is pretty crazy how many played for them. not sure how many use WHILE with the cubs. But a lot sure went through them. Sox have one for sure.

QUOTE(Mplssoxfan @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 01:36 PM) Whether Don Fehr will allow it, I don't know. He almost has to. his nuts are against the wall.

QUOTE(Linnwood @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 01:34 PM) It wasn't just on ESPN. I'm watching on the MLB.tv thing, and I heard that too. oh great. here comes a terrorist attack

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 01:32 PM) Is their any complete list of the players out there yet? Or will it take a bit for someone to actually read through the report and give us a complete straight out listing of each player. This was the list as best as I could put together. (Sorry if I missed anyone): Marvin Benard, Barry Bonds. Bobby Estalella, Jason Giambi. Jeremy Giambi, Benito Santiago, Gary Sheffield, Randy Velarde, Lenny Dykstra, David Segui, Larry Bigbie, Brian Roberts, Jack Cust, Tim Laker, Josias Manzanillo, Todd Hundley, Mark Carreon, Hal Morris, Matt Franco, Rondell White, Roger Clemens, Chuck Knoblauch, Jason Grimsley, Gregg Zaun, David Justice, F.P. Santangelo, Glenallen Hill, Mo Vaughn, Denny Neagle, Ron Villone, Ryan Franklin, Chris Donnels, Todd Williams, Phil Hiatt, Todd Pratt, Kevin Young, Mike Lansing, Cody McKay, Kent Mercker, Adam Piatt, Miguel Tejada, Jason Christiansen, Mike Stanton, Stephen Randolph, Jerry Hairston, Jr., Paul Lo Duca, Adam Riggs, Bart Miadich, Fernando Vina, Kevin Brown, Eric Gagné, Mike Bell, Matt Herges, Gary Bennett, Jr., Jim Parque, Brendan Donnelly, Chad Allen, Jeff Williams, Howie Clark, Nook Logan, Daniel Naulty, Jay Gibbons, Rick Ankiel, David Bell, Paul Byrd, Jose Canseco, Troy Glaus, Jason Grimsley, Jose Guillen, Darren Holmes, Gary Matthews, Jr., John Rocker, Scott Schoeneweis, Ismael Valdez, Matt Williams, Steve Woodard http://www.soxtalk.com/forums/index.php?s=...t&p=1548718

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 01:29 PM) That doesn't appear to be what the report says. The report says he sent Radomski a bottle while he was on tampa for testing. That does not mean he wasn't using them before he sent that bottle to Radomski; in fact, it suggests he was on it at least some time beforehand, because he was able to recognize that he got a crappy shipment. yea, i caught that too. He'd been using for a while.

This was the list as best as I could put together. (Sorry if I missed anyone): Marvin Benard, Barry Bonds. Bobby Estalella, Jason Giambi. Jeremy Giambi, Benito Santiago, Gary Sheffield, Randy Velarde, Lenny Dykstra, David Segui, Larry Bigbie, Brian Roberts, Jack Cust, Tim Laker, Josias Manzanillo, Todd Hundley, Mark Carreon, Hal Morris, Matt Franco, Rondell White, Roger Clemens, Chuck Knoblauch, Jason Grimsley, Gregg Zaun, David Justice, F.P. Santangelo, Glenallen Hill, Mo Vaughn, Denny Neagle, Ron Villone, Ryan Franklin, Chris Donnels, Todd Williams, Phil Hiatt, Todd Pratt, Kevin Young, Mike Lansing, Cody McKay, Kent Mercker, Adam Piatt, Miguel Tejada, Jason Christiansen, Mike Stanton, Stephen Randolph, Jerry Hairston, Jr., Paul Lo Duca, Adam Riggs, Bart Miadich, Fernando Vina, Kevin Brown, Eric Gagné, Mike Bell, Matt Herges, Gary Bennett, Jr., Jim Parque, Brendan Donnelly, Chad Allen, Jeff Williams, Howie Clark, Nook Logan, Daniel Naulty, Jay Gibbons, Rick Ankiel, David Bell, Paul Byrd, Jose Canseco, Troy Glaus, Jason Grimsley, Jose Guillen, Darren Holmes, Gary Matthews, Jr., John Rocker, Scott Schoeneweis, Ismael Valdez, Matt Williams, Steve Woodard,

No Sosa listed

QUOTE(Linnwood @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 01:08 PM) Is there a list in the PDF? It's not a continuous list. It's basically Name followed by the evidence against them.

Nook Logan

Kevin Brown

In the report are photocopies of actual CHECKS written to Kirk Radomski.

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 12:59 PM) The report will be available in PDF on mlb.com momentarily. I just downloaded it. 409 pages

QUOTE(GoSox05 @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 11:35 AM) The Sox new slogan should be. "We may suck, but at least we don't cheat".

QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 11:24 AM) I'd still sign Prior right now. His value has nowhere to go but up. Thought crossed my mind too. Not sure yet.

There is an argument that well, they were hall of famers before before staroids, so they still deserve to go in. Well, Pete Rose isnt in the hall. While they are different situations, as a PLAYER Pete Rose was a LOCK for the hall of fame. You can NOT have it both ways. Either they deserve to be in, or they do not. If the policy is to ban those who viotaed rules or were "unethical", then it applies to all.

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 11:05 AM) Milton Bradley hmmmmm..... roid rage anyone?

ESPN is already starting the spin. Well, these players are ASSOCIATED with steroids. They never tested positive. That's all we have knowledge of right now.

QUOTE(Fotop @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 10:11 AM) Take this with a HUGE grain of salt, as I got it from friends of friends of friends....It'll be interesting to see if it's true... Full list.. "Brady Anderson, Manny Alexander, Rick Ankiel, Jeff Bagwell, Barry Bonds, Aaron Boone, Rafaeil Bettancourt, Bret Boone, Milton Bradley, David Bell, Dante Bichette, Albert Belle, Paul Byrd, Wil Cordero, Ken Caminiti, Mike Cameron, Ramon Castro, Jose and Ozzie Canseco, Roger Clemens, Paxton Crawford, Wilson Delgado, Lenny Dykstra, Johnny Damon, Carl Everett, Kyle Farnsoworth, Ryan Franklin, Troy Glaus, Rich Garces, Jason Grimsley, Troy Glaus, Juan Gonzalez, Eric Gagne, Nomar Garciaparra, Jason Giambi, Jeremy Giambi, Jose Guillen, Jay Gibbons, Juan Gonzalez, Clay Hensley, Jerry Hairston, Felix Heredia, Jr., Darren Holmes, Wally Joyner, Darryl Kile, Matt Lawton, Raul Mondesi, Mark McGwire, Guillermo Mota, Robert Machado, Damian Moss, Abraham Nunez, Trot Nixon, Jose Offerman, Andy Pettitte, Mark Prior, Neifi Perez, Rafael Palmiero, Albert Pujols, Brian Roberts, Juan Rincon, John Rocker, Pudge Rodriguez, Sammy Sosa, Scott Schoenweiis, David Segui, Alex Sanchez, Gary Sheffield, Miguel Tejada, Julian Tavarez,Fernando Tatis, Maurice Vaughn, IJason Varitek, Ismael Valdez, Matt Williams and Kerry Wood." DANG! No one on there really surprises me. I think a lot of them had been suspected for a long time.

QUOTE(daa84 @ Dec 13, 2007 -> 10:03 AM) several prominent yankees will be named according to espn....that probably is clemens and pettitte, but i wouldnt be shocked if arod, damon abreu pop up either sheffield (not current, but spent several years there)

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