Jordan4life_2007

Wow. My god the Hawks are f***ing dumb. I'll take it.

I'd have to imagine no way in hell they let Rose get to the cup again.

No more lobs, please.

The Hawks are begging the Bulls to win this game.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 3, 2012 -> 09:17 PM) And I know its early but playing rose and deng 40+ mins in the regular season needs to stop. So basically throw the game? I see what you're saying. But this particular game warrants them being out there that many minutes.

Luol is playin' his ass off.

Rose forced that last three. And Kyle Korver needs to be dismissed. He's utterly worthless when he's not hitting from the outside.

This doesn't surprise me a bit. Hawks should've been up 30 the way the Bulls were shooting. A 10-2 and they're right back in it.

Bulls should be thanking basketball Jesus that they're only down 12. That was the worst half of basketball I've seen since the Eddy Curry, Trenton Hassell era.

Soxtalk at it again. Treating one of our very own like a cheap prostitute. 2005, anyone? Go, JD. I'll always be thankful for you ending our 95-year title drought.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jan 2, 2012 -> 09:46 PM) I just can't understand the defense of Kenny on here. The Quentin trade sucked IMO. It's a no brainer to say it sucked. I guess nobody on the Sox we ever trade is worth a s***. To get two hack pitchers for CQ seems pretty lousy to me. Carlos arguably was the second best hitter on the White Sox last year. I guess our organization is THAT BAD if our second best hitter can't get us a haul of anything but two players who in the words of our own Dick Allen are "garbage." Who's "defending" KW? If you choose to ignore things like salary, market value, skill-set, other teams' needs, etc, that's on you. If anything, Padres fans are the ones that should be pissed off.

QUOTE (kjshoe04 @ Jan 2, 2012 -> 09:09 PM) I'd think his value would go up compared to a decade ago when everyone was hitting 30 bombs a year. But he's only done that once. And there's no, "Well, if CQ was healthy, he could've done it more than once." Because he's never healthy. Never has been and probably never will be. Look what happened to Jermaine Dye after '09. It's different circumstances, of course, but they're similiar players. JD couldn't even get a job. There's way more emphasis on speed and defense now.

I think the problem with the pro-CQ crowd is they don't realize it's 2012 and a different game now. Guys like CQ don't have as much value as they did a decade ago. The game of baseball has become more about speed, athleticism and versatility. You were not going to get some great package, at least on the surface, for somebody as one-dimensional, injury-prone (even going back to his Arizona days) and a year away from FA. Guys like CQ aren't really hard to come by. '08 was an outlier. Competent GMs aren't going to be fooled by that year. That was his "career" year. What you've seen the last three years from him is what he is. And again, in '12, that doesn't hold as much value. If he was under control for an extra year? Yes, I would've expected better. But that obviously wasn't the case.

One thing I'll say against the Heat, they definitely do not like to see zone defense. Zone 'em up, rebound the basketball and you've got a much better chance.

QUOTE (sircaffey @ Jan 2, 2012 -> 05:30 PM) Did you even watch the series? Let's just ignore the fact that the game plan was clearly to let Bosh do what he wants......Where do I get that the Bulls control the paint defensively and on the boards? Well, why tell you when I can show you???? Look at the shot charts for each game. It's a gross advantage towards the Bulls. And I will tell you this. The Bulls out-rebounded the Heat in 4 of the 5 games and were +21 for the 5 games. Yeah they control the paint. And this was WITHOUT Asik for almost a full 2 games. GM 1: http://espn.go.com/nba/shotchart?gameId=310522014 GM 2: http://espn.go.com/nba/shotchart?gameId=310522014 GM 3: http://espn.go.com/nba/shotchart?gameId=310524014 GM 4: http://espn.go.com/nba/shotchart?gameId=310524014 GM 5: http://espn.go.com/nba/shotchart?gameId=310526004 What the hell does this prove? Yes, the Bulls thoroughly kicked the crap out of the Heat on the boards in the first game. After that, it's pretty damn even. Let Bosh do whatever he wants? lol. Well they better rethink that strategy. Because that's exactly what he did. Whatever he wanted.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jan 2, 2012 -> 05:17 PM) What Rose has on LeBron in terms of speed/quickness, LeBron makes up for in size/length. When LBJ is right on top of Rose, speed/quickness goes out the window because he isn't getting by the 6-9, 270-pound freak. If this is the case, then the Bulls REALLY have no shot. If your best player can't consistently get to the cup and either get to the line or get your 'mates open shots, you're done. I chalked up last year's performance to Rose being extremely young and possibly not being 100% physically. But if he can't beat LeBron off the dribble, sorry, they have no chance. And that's a guarantee

QUOTE (KyYlE23 @ Jan 2, 2012 -> 05:09 PM) Hey look, j4l is telling everyone how the season will end, like he always does, since he is always right. Right? Didn't the heat win 72+ games last year and the title? lol. Whatever. I just throw my opinions out there. You don't see me making Steve-like (LEBRON AND BOSH WILL SIGN WITH CHICAGO!!! BOOK IT!!!) guarantees. And I was like, what, one of 4 billion people wrong about the Heat winning the title last year? Wow. You got me.

QUOTE (sircaffey @ Jan 2, 2012 -> 04:53 PM) Which will be A LOT tougher to do against this Bulls team. Like you said, the Heat are at their best when they can get to the rim and get out on the fastbreak which is why their weakness in the paint is not a problem you can just overlook. The Bulls will control the paint both defensively and on the boards against the Heat. The Heat will not be able to beat the Bulls relying on the fastbreak. They will have to win it in the half court, which is where the Bulls are great defensively, and the Heat are mediocre offensive. Relying on it? No. They don't have to rely on it. But it's a weapon they appear to be utilizing much more than they did last year (again, very early in the season). Don't know where you get the Bulls controlling the paint offensively and defensively from. Unless that wasn't really Chris Bosh kicking Noah's and Boozer's ass last year to the tune of 23+PPG and like 60% shooting. And it goes both ways in the half-court.

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Jan 2, 2012 -> 04:30 PM) We'll just have to see, I'm not ready to give the title to Miami.You also need to put your Heat crack pipe down, I'm not buying the Heat are unbeatable argument, hell yeah they can be beat.Micheal Jordan was really the only player you could say was unbeatable.James is nowhere near that level or else he would've won a title already.The Bulls have a bigger upside, they are younger and deeper and now have deep playoffs expirience. If that Mavs team can beat Miami, then they definitely can be beaten. I don't believe any eastern conference team can beat Miami. I never said they couldn't be beaten. You're still trying to rationalize last year's loss (Noah was hurt, Korver couldn't shoot, etc) and saying the series was close despite losing in 5 games. Though there's no mention of Wade's uncharacteristic bad shooting series, Haslem being rusty after missing 70 games, Mike Miller being a non-factor with the wrist injury, etc. The Bulls have bigger upside than Miami because they're younger? The Heat's entire starting 5 is 29 and younger. The depth is overblown. And the Heat have the same "deep" playoff experience.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 2, 2012 -> 04:08 PM) But that same Heat team has had major fights against Boston (sans Pierce), Charlotte, and Minnesota, which they really shouldn't have had. So let's put an asterisk on the Bulls Christmas day win. No Bynum. And apparently the Heat have to win every game by double figures. Gotcha.

QUOTE (Balta1701 @ Jan 2, 2012 -> 03:49 PM) Last May I'd have agreed with you, at least about the Heat. Then the Finals happened, and the Heat were thoroughly outplayed by the Mavs. If the Mavs can outplay the Heat that completely, then the Heat are not untouchable. Thoroughly? Really? 2-2 after 4 games with Miami blowing a 15 point lead with just over 6 minutes to go in game 2, and losing game 4 by I believe 3 points? Then Dallas basically went nuts from 3 in games 5 and 6. Dallas was better. But I wouldn't say they were that much better. Last year was the year to get at the Heat. First year playing together, lack of depth, etc. We're still very early in the season, obviously. But if you've watched even bits and pieces of any of their games, you see they're playing at a much faster pace - which is a more conducive style to the exceptional athletes they have all over the court.

QUOTE (Rowand44 @ Jan 2, 2012 -> 03:19 PM) Are the Knicks still better than the Bulls? I never said the Knicks were definitively better. I said they had a case. And only time will tell. But who cares. Neither can touch the Heat.

lol@$120 million being chump change I thought Mcgrad was greg for a second. I thought only he posted in poem form?

QUOTE (MexSoxFan#1 @ Jan 2, 2012 -> 11:51 AM) To be fair, Rose wasn't the same after his ankle injury he suffered vs the Pacers, and Noah was ineffective after his hand injury, he didn't even play the 4th qtr in those playoff games, the Bulls advantage is in the PG and C position vs the Heat and with those players hampered, that nullified the Bulls advantage.I really believe the Bulls playing their best vs the Heat playing their best, it won't be a Heat 4-1 playoff victory again.The Bulls can beat Miami, they are bigger and deeper.Korver won't suck again, he missed a ton of open looks, at least I hope not. You need to put that Bulls crack pipe down. Under no circumstance, outside of injury, can this Bulls team beat a Miami team playing at an optimal or near optimal level. The Bulls advantage at C is nullified because Miami can just go with either Bosh/Haslem, Haslem/Bosh at the 4/5 and be just fine. As far as depth goes, I don't know if this Norris Cole character is for real or not, but if he is, that advantage goes out the window as well. Once Battier gets acclimated, you have a bench of Cole, Battier, Haslem, Jones, Miller (though he has to prove he's healthy).

Damn, this is old-school Kalapse. Are you going to post more in 2012, you wuss?