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QUOTE(JoeBatterz @ May 7, 2006 -> 06:07 PM) How many White Sox Alumni are actually playing on other teams this year? Not just guys from the World Champs, but any player currently playing that spent any time in the Sox organization. How would this compare to other teams? Just curious. Position Players: Mike Cameron (SD) .230 AVG Ray Durham (SF) .203 AVG Jeremy Reed (SEA) .188 AVG Aaron Miles (STL) .292 AVG Josh Paul (TB) .250 AVG Greg Norton (TB) .200 AVG D'Angelo Jiminez (TX) .208 AVG Jose Valentin (NYM) .185 AVG Julio Franco (NYM) .220 AVG Ruben Sierra (MN) .188 AVG Tony Graffanino (KC) .143 AVG Carlos Lee (MIL) 1.064 OPS Magglio Ordonez (DET) .915 OPS Sandy Alomar Jr. (LA) .375 AVG Olmedo Saenz (LA) .313 AVG Kenny Lofton (LA) .320 OBP Miguel Olivo (FLA) .232 AVG Royce Clayton (WASH) .235 AVG Pitchers: Keith Foulke (BOS) 0.89 WHIP Bobby Howry (CHI) 0.87 WHIP Scott Eyre (CHI) 1.10 WHIP David Wells (BOS) Injured Bartolo Colon (ANA) Injured Kip Wells (PIT) Injured Josh Fogg (COL) 1.40 WHIP Jason Grilli (DET) 1.63 WHIP Gary Majewski (WASH) 1.40 WHIP Jon Rauch (WASH) 0.93 WHIP Chad Bradford (NYM) 1.60 WHIP Darren Oliver (NYM) 1.10 WHIP Tanyon Sturtze (NYY) 1.40 WHIP Esteban Loaiza (OAK) 8.35 ERA Tom Gordon (PHIL) 0.61 WHIP Roberto Hernandez (PIT) 1.60 WHIP Jon Adkins (SD) 2.63 WHIP Scott Schoeneweis (TOR) 1.31 WHIP I'll take some of those relivers back. Tom Gordon?

QUOTE(fathom @ May 7, 2006 -> 06:03 PM) With the way the ball jumps out of Arizona, Webb and his super sinker's a better fit than Vazquez. . In that particular stadium? No question. I'm thinking in terms of putting every one of these guys in a neutral setting, though.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ May 7, 2006 -> 06:00 PM) This is true but at the same time a 1.000+ would have put him in the same club as Babe Ruth (1.1638) Ted Williams (1.1155) Lou Gehrig (1.0798) Barry Bonds (1.0533) Todd Helton (1.0404) Jimmie Foxx (1.0376) Albert Pujols (1.0372) Hank Greenberg (1.0169) Rogers Hornsby (1.0103) and Manny Ramirez (1.0076) as the only players in the history of the game to put up a 1.000+ OPS for a career, though Manny, Helton and Pujols could possibly drop out of this club by the time their careers are over. That is one hell of an exclusive club. Yeah, tell me about it.

QUOTE(fathom @ May 7, 2006 -> 05:55 PM) Brandon Webb is fantastic now. I've noticed. It's a close call, but give me Javier. But yeah, that guy and Smoltz are the closest calls.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ May 7, 2006 -> 05:46 PM) Not having a 1.000+ OPS at the end of his career is going to affect his chances at the hall of fame. 1.000+ looks so sexy for a career mark. Anything above .950 in 10,000 plate appearances (give or take 1000) is golden, though. It'll be good enough for Top 20 or Top 25 in the history of the game IIRC.

QUOTE(ChWRoCk2 @ May 7, 2006 -> 03:26 AM) Javy is looking really solid easily the best fifth starter in the game. Well, it goes way beyond that IMO. Right now, I have him down as an ace for literally half of the teams in baseball: Philadelphia Washington Atlanta Cincinatti Pittsburgh Los Angeles Colorado Arizona Baltimore Tampa Bay Kansas City Cleveland Detroit Seattle Texas And the 15 that he's not an ace on: NY Mets (Pedro Martinez) Florida (Dontrelle Willis) Houston (Roy Oswalt) Chicago (Carlos Zambrano) St. Louis (Cris Carpenter) Milwaukee (Ben Sheets) San Diego (Jake Peavy) San Francisco (Jason Schmidt) NY Yankees (Randy Johnson) Boston (Curt Schilling) Toronto (Roy Halladay) Chicago (Jose Contreras) Minnesota (Johan Santana) Anaheim (Bartolo Colon) Oakland (Rich Harden) Call me crazy, but that's just how I see it. Jeremy Bonderman and Felix Hernandez have yet to really take off, and I think that Javier owns dudes like CC Sabathia, Brad Penny, Brandon Webb, Zach Duke, Livan Hernandez, etc. The only team that I could go either way on is Atlanta (John Smoltz).

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ May 7, 2006 -> 03:58 PM) In Frank Thomas' last career 210 ABs, he's hitting under .200. Frank Thomas under the Mendoza line for over 200 ABs is something I don't think anyone would ever envision seeing. I guess he really is in his prime. His career OPS has dropped from .997 to .990 thus far in 2006. It's not looking too good for Big Frank right about now.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ May 6, 2006 -> 05:18 AM) Juan Pierre has a f***ing cannon, did you see him nearly nail Greene at the plate!?!?!?!?! Nope, but I'll take your word for it. The dude has Marino-like arm strength.

Cubs lose. :sleep They have now been shut out by Juan Cruz and Chan Ho Park on consecutive nights. Solid.

Wow, the Cubs and the Padres are tied up at 0-0 going into the bottom of the 11th inning. What a battle. Cubs vs Padres

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ May 5, 2006 -> 09:14 PM) If his head is right, he is one of the most dominant relievers in the game. I am one of the few that really hated to see him go, but I think Mack will be a good player for the Sox. Marte did get a WS win. Exactly. Damaso is as mentally fragile as they come, but god damn is that guy gifted.

In Damaso's last 7 appearances (6 2/3 innings pitched), he has a 0.00 ERA, 9 Ks, 1 BB, and 3 hits allowed. He's on one of his little hot streaks.

QUOTE(Sox1422 @ May 5, 2006 -> 09:01 PM) After looking at the numbers, he only has 2 walks and 12 K's. Not bad. Looks like he has been giving up a lot of Sac flies. Yeah, that ain't bad at all.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ May 5, 2006 -> 08:38 PM) And they're both higher than Boone Logan's ERA is a deceiving stat fro relievers Word. A guy could be allowing a s***load of inherited runs while keeping his ERA relatively low, but his WHIP ratio is gonna take a beating. BAA could be a little deceiving too because walks aren't taken into account. Walks are the biggest killer in baseball IMO, and WHIP almost always tells me the story. I can't really think of any exceptions.

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QUOTE(WCSox @ May 5, 2006 -> 05:24 PM) Since about 80% of his posts contain insults, I'd say the answer is yes. OMG, and you're one to talk. At least I have a warm and fuzzy side. You are bitter 24/7.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 5, 2006 -> 05:21 PM) Thats where you are fundamentally wrong. Baseball in October is not the same as baseball in the middle of the summer. The way Ozzie has managed this team with Thome in the lineup has been brilliant, and I get exactly what hes trying to do with the tools he has. You are stuck on last year's playoff run and that team's makeup. Well its just not the same as this year's. You need to figure that out. Well, back to the basics: Get that runner in scoring position with less than two outs for your 3-4-5 I don't care who you are, or how many prodigious sluggers you have. If it works in the playoffs, you don't do something different during the regular season. You should treat every single game as if it's a playoff game, although that will clash with the amount of rest that you need to give players during the regular season. It's not all-or-nothing in the regular season, and then conservatism in the playoffs. IT IS CONSERVATISM AT ALL TIMES.

QUOTE(fathom @ May 5, 2006 -> 05:18 PM) If we had the pitching that we have now, back with that lineup, we would have been amazing. We're in every single game now due to our pitching. I'm talking about getting shut out by Joe Mays and a bunch of other rookie scrubs. Pitching wouldn't have done jack s*** for that lineup.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 5, 2006 -> 05:18 PM) SO, you would like to go on the record and say that the baseball style in the playoffs is the exact same in the regular season? Why shouldn't it be? If it wins in the playoffs, shouldn't it win by default during the regular season?

QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 5, 2006 -> 05:07 PM) Oh, now its whats effective in the playoffs. I see. Playing for every run possible is the way to win playoff games, no s***. And this team has the ability to do that if necessary. The playoffs are like playing every regular season game from the 8th inning. Which basically agrees with everything Fathom has been saying. Right now, the way Ozzie has been managing it, it has worked to perfection. Last year's lineup is nothing compared to this years, and I think the stats support me on that. So, the way to go about things on offense in the playoffs is NOT the way to do things during the regular season. I gotcha. Can you see the ridiculousness that I'm putting up with right about now? Don't you want to play your best style of ball at all times? Hmmm, let's try our best to be greedy pigs now, and then we'll tone it down a notch in the playoffs? This is a common sense issue.

QUOTE(fathom @ May 5, 2006 -> 05:06 PM) Greed? When RockRaines is defending me, maybe...just maybe, you're wrong. Yes, I'm a greedy sonofab**** for wanting the Sox to not play for ONE run. If we were going to play conservative baseball, we should have traded for Juan Pierre, and made him our DH and #3 hitter. LOL, so you probably long for the days of Thomas/Ordonez/Lee/Konerko, yeah? You enjoy watching us get shut out by some rookie, or some dude like Joe f***ing Mays? Not me. I like to be in every single game. It's called conservatism, not an all-or-nothing style of offense that you support. I think you're a great poster for the most part, but you gotta kick this bulls*** philosophy to the curb.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 5, 2006 -> 04:59 PM) It is your opinion, because the manager of the WS champs doesnt share your view. With your offensive strategy, we might not have even won the game yesterday, because you would have sac'ed iguchi, walked Thome, and may have not even had a run in that first inning. Since this team hasnt really played YOUR way this year, I would say im pretty happy that they havent. We'll see what's up come playoff time. And you know, with Konerko hitting the cover off of the ball, you don't think that a lot of those walks are going to come back and bite the opposition? They're not walking Thome to get to Rondell White, you know. That's Paul f***ing Konerko on deck. You're gonna have some GIDPs, and you're also gonna have a s***load of runs batted in with that guy at the plate.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 5, 2006 -> 04:53 PM) Is it really neccessary to insult him just because he doesnt share your point of view? You act like it's my opinion or something.... It's a f***ing undeniable fact, come on. You play conservative on offense. There ain't no opposing viewpoint.

QUOTE(fathom @ May 5, 2006 -> 04:34 PM) Yep, playing for one run at at time, in the American League, is pretty dumb. Especially when the ball is jumping at our park. From the 8th inning on, playing for one run does make sense though. It's called conservative, playoff-style baseball. ONE RUN AT A TIME. Especially with our pitching. Again, I feel like I'm talking to a Cubs fan whose entire baseball philosophy revolves around greed.

QUOTE(RockRaines @ May 5, 2006 -> 04:32 PM) Why would you want to take the bats out of probably our 2 best hitters right now? I dont understand that concept. Theres no overall benefit. You either let iguchi swing and have the added benefit of 1st and 3rd with no outs, or maybe even an RBI. Or take the bat out of his hands, and then take the bat out of your best hitters hands. Then maybe Iguchi is a #6 hitter, but we need to get that leadoff man (whoever is leading off an inning, not just Podsednik) in scoring position. That's what championship teams do, because you're not going to slug your way deep into the playoffs. Once in a great while you'll have an exception like the late 80s Oakland As. LaRussa was of that same train of thought: let's not get too aggressive with Lansford/Weiss sacrificing themselves to put Henderson into scoring positon. Let's wait for Jose and Mark to clean up. They got their one championship, but it should have been like three or four if their offense was more conservative, given the circumstances. Playoff ball is all about defense and conservative offense. That applies to all the major organized team sports.