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QUOTE(Jabroni @ Mar 16, 2005 -> 03:03 PM) Diaz pitched 16.2 innings as a reliever last season. He could have just managed to get by without getting rocked for that amount of time, even with his crappy no speed/no movement fastball. Getting by for 16.2 innings didn't suddenly make Diaz's fastball any better. I did say it was a small sample size. But i do believe if he is gonna succeed it's not gonna be as a starter it will be as a reliever.

Widger is my hero. He hits a single that knocks in one run and makes in first and third one out.

QUOTE(JUGGERNAUT @ Mar 16, 2005 -> 01:03 PM) I'll be glad to fill in the pcs for you Koney + Contreras/Garland to AZ for Vazquez. Basis: This was the highly rumored trade in the off-season & AZ did not upgrade at 1B. KW pulled that trade off the table. Not AZ. Money-wise it makes sense for both teams. I expect Contreras to have better numbers than Garland by mid Jun so I think it's more likely Contreras. If you asked KW whether he would want to upgrade the staff by swapping Contreras for Vazquez at the expense of Koney if Thomas is productive by then I think he says yes. If Contreras is really pitching well we might even get some $ to offset Vazquez salary. So that gives us Buerhle, Garcia, Vazquez, El Duque, BMC for the rotation. Potential to be the best in the majors. Period. Locked up for 06 & most are locked up for 07. Next we have our hole at 3B. Crede represents nothing more than a patch to hold the fold until Fields is ready. The Sox could do well to upgrade that Patch with Mike Lowell of the FLM. He's owed a little more than 8M/yr for 3 more yrs. I expect the Marlin's to throw in some cash to drive that cost down to 21M for 2.4 yrs for the ChiSox. In return they get Crede & Garland. For a team that lost 20M last year Garland is a good investment. His potential in the NL has always been much higher than the AL. Crede still has sizeable upside. Hopefully both are playing well enough to bolster this trade. The better their playing the more cash FL has to throw in. Obviously you can't pull the Lowell trade unless El Duque still looks to be in good health. You're not going to take that risk. But the Lowell trade is one that can wait until the trade deadline. That gives the Sox about 5 BMC starts in the bigs as well to decide whether to do it. The additions of Vazquez, BMC, Gload, & Lowell as 1st stringers will help much more than Contreras, Garland, Koney, & Crede.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Mar 16, 2005 -> 02:53 PM) Diaz however has a very very very very straight slow fastball. He doesnt really project as someone that can become electric out of the pen. His numbers out of the pen last year say otherwise. Even though it was a pretty small sample size.

Jugger, burke is what 33 now? I know he plays multiple positions but there is no way in hell that he has more value that adkins or diaz. I can understand why you think borchard still has good value since you thought davis had any chance of him beating pierz out of spring training.

Rowand grounds into an inning ending double play in the third.

QUOTE(ZoomSlowik @ Mar 15, 2005 -> 03:41 PM) I gotta assume that you guys will crush the 8th graders unless they are freakishly big or freakishly good. They gotta have at least 2 guys around 6-6, and the way I remember grade school basketball there were like 2 guys in the division that big. I know that would have been ugly comparing my grade school to my high school, we had two all-staters on varsity my freshman year, and one of them was Corey Maggette. Who was the other?

My main problem is allen. He was saying how the sonics are use to ''hand checks' being called and that the bulls get away with every damn call. Well i am sorry if the refs did not help you out allen. Does he know how much s*** the bulls went through for those six years after the dynasty ended? Mercer could have been punched in the face and the refs would have been looking the other way. I think it is about damn time the bulls get a call or two. The sonics= sam cassel. Every foul that is called that shake their heads in disgust wanting to know who the foul was on and why. Even thought the fouls are clear as day. Crawford is a joke and i am sure anyone will agree with that. He called a three second violation on the bulls and no one was even in the paint, period.

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Mar 15, 2005 -> 10:58 PM) There were also news articles saying that the Sox were close to signing Vizquel. Vizquel himself said that he was almost a White Sox but signed with the Giants at the last minute. Another favorite of mine... ''my sources tell me that alex ccora has signed with the indians''. Four days after everyone in the world knew about it.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Mar 15, 2005 -> 10:55 PM) Omar Vizquel = White Sox ...or no Didn't he put his reputation on the line? Or lack there of...

QUOTE(Jabroni @ Mar 15, 2005 -> 10:30 PM) You would be wrong then. Yesterday on ESPN 1000, Bruce Levine said that there were a few teams interested in Borchard. Other teams have scouts at every Sox game to look at Borchard, Willie, and Adkins. Bruce levine also has a very good track record.

QUOTE(elrockinMT @ Mar 15, 2005 -> 10:42 PM) Nothing wrong with what you said WT. I think Joe B will make the team. Which team is ''the team''? Charlotte or the major league team?

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Mar 15, 2005 -> 10:35 PM) He only like led the majors in bunt hits last year...and he played like half the year...not sure how much more you can use your speed then that. If he stayed healthy he would have broken the record for most bunt hits in a season.

Skiles ''It was a fairly called game''. Ray allen ''It was a well called game''. Slap.

Lmfao@ allen right now.

The sonics b****ing paid off. Wow, simply disgusting game.

19 times gordon has scored 10+ in the fourth quarter which leads the nba.

3:22 left and there have been 62 f***ing fouls called. Crawford ( the official) and the rest of there crew must have gotten some sexual favors out of this.

In 23 minutes curry has three rebounds 0 defensive f***ing rebounds. Let the praising begin.

QUOTE(soxman35 @ Mar 15, 2005 -> 09:34 PM) now if we do try to pick some one up who do u think we should look for Russell branyan.

QUOTE(soxman35 @ Mar 15, 2005 -> 09:31 PM) this is a stupid argument i know what he can and cant do and i think we need to get some one new and 3 base thats what i think You need to look at some facts but you don't seem like anything more than a troll so who cares.

QUOTE(soxman35 @ Mar 15, 2005 -> 09:26 PM) makes way too many airs buddy way to many we can have that on are team

The refs apparently have listened to the sonics. f***ing bunch of pansies. This is one of the lamest games ever played.

QUOTE(El Piervizdyeguchansodnik @ Mar 15, 2005 -> 09:02 PM) Is it just me or does Hinrich suck? He can't drain anything and he takes way too many shots. It is his fault that he misses all those wide open shots but it is not his fault that he is shooting all of those shots. He just does what he is told to do. Hinrich far from sucks. He passes well ( sloppy on occasion), crazy ass defense, drives well and kicks it out well while driving etc...

QUOTE(chisoxfan14 @ Mar 15, 2005 -> 03:15 PM) no he better not be! Willie better be!