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QUOTE (knightni @ Oct 8, 2014 -> 08:17 AM) They need to find a up-and-coming coach that was a former player. Someone that knows the success of the past and can promote it to recruits. Is there such a person out there? Maybe an ex-coach or player under a former head coach. The best candidates fitting that I can see are John Holecek, Loyola HS coach and Mike Bellamy, our WR coach. Neither is qualified. Another bad part about hiring terrible coach after terrible coach is the lack of a coaching tree. I like the idea though. There's um, Mike Locksley who was a top assistant but quite possibly the worst head coach in cfb history. I don't mind a guy who is from the area, can sell us as the state school. I like Babers in that regard, from his time at Eastern (which has to be the most bizarre hotbed for football out there). The aforementioned Fuentes coached at Illinois State as long with a lot of his staff. A message board poster claims we put out feelers to Sean Payton, lol.

I like Cubit. Keeping him would be for some stability would be the cherry on top of my pie in the sky pick of Schiano.

I think just the opposite of Illinois. They need to make their past a bigger deal. They should point to those "5 BANNERZ!!!". They had the greatest CFB player ever play at their school. There's also Dick Butkus, Kevin Hardy, Simeon Rice etc. This is a school that doesn't appreciate it's history at all. I realize it wouldn't be much more than a historical footnote now, and that's fine, but you would even realize Illinois had a history talking to just about anyone, fans or not. Not saying we should return to a national power even, but marketing sucks from making illinois look like anything but a doormat. That's even when we do win.

Rice's student section might be the best in the state.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 7, 2014 -> 02:21 PM) Not really. I think the basketball program has a higher expectation and chance at sustained success. The football program is just dead to the world. Of course illini basketball has higher expectations. We're talking about Illini football fans though. Half of them defend Ron freaking Zook, generally regarded as an awful coach by the rest of the sane world, like he's their own first born. Hell this whole discussion started because illinois fans think they might have a shot at a guy from one of the worst programs in the country and whose resume includes a 10-19 mark as a head coach. How is that having too high of expectations?

I think he's confusing basketball and football fans.

Compared to Memphis? FIU is not much a step backwards. Yes to Illinois they both are. That's what happens when you get fired.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Oct 7, 2014 -> 12:54 PM) What are Ron Turner and Ron Zook doing now? Ron Turner is still head coaching in Division 1 and Zook is coaching in the nfl. Not bad considering they were football brain dead.

Yeah. It's a gigantic step up.

Yeah. He needs to win a bit this year to fully prove himself but I'm on board. Hopefully he still has some major ties to Texas.

I think I'mjumping on the Justin Fuente bandwagon for Illinois.

I'm more worried about some school like West Virginia than Florida or Michigan. Projecting the fired coaches: Kansas, Michigan, West Virginia, Iowa State, Hawaii, Idaho (how did anyone anyone give Paul Petrino a HC job), UNLV. Don't see anyone else really that close. Maybe a surprise or 2. Maybe Colorado opens up. Gonna be interesting how the food chain ends up. Harbaugh going from nfl to Michigan is the best case scenario. Not sure who Florida goes after. West Virginia and Illinois would be in for similar candidates with them being the better job. Coacheshotseat.com lists Saban as having the hottest seat. Okay.

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Oct 6, 2014 -> 10:45 AM) Talk about blasts from the past As if he doesn't have an alt on here right now.... But yeah that's why message boards with strict molding never last. When you ban half your userbase, there's no one left to post.

Boegarts, Bradley Jr, Allen Craig, Betts, Swihart, Ranaudo, Owens and Joe Kelly.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 6, 2014 -> 08:44 AM) OK. I am also going to try and make a run at Kate Upton this offseason as well. Wish me luck. At least Kate Upton should actually be on the market after those mistress pics. Sale not so much.

Big Game James

Only bad thing is they will totally get Gardenhire now

Okay Showalter

Hmmm feel like he got pulled a little early

QUOTE (gatnom @ Oct 4, 2014 -> 11:43 PM) Who do you like? Not going to shoot down your candidates, just genuinely curious. This would be my mostly realistic list. I realize some guys get better offers/don't come here but it only takes one: 1. Greg Schiano 2. Pat Narduzzi 3. Dino Babers (like him more than a lot of people I realize) 4. Jeremy Pruitt 5. Chad Morris 6. Bud Foster 7. Craig Bohl 8. Pete Lembo 9. Tim Deruyter

QUOTE (gatnom @ Oct 4, 2014 -> 01:35 PM) Wishful thinking, but if they can find a way to throw enough money at Chuck Martin to fix this dumpster fire I'd be ecstatic. Chuck Martin I'm sure would take the Illini job in a heart beat. He should also be about 10th on our list.

QUOTE (fathom @ Oct 4, 2014 -> 05:20 PM) Some great refs in the Stanford game as well...not If you're Stanford why would you ever agree to go back to South Bend.

QUOTE (raBBit @ Oct 2, 2014 -> 10:33 PM) Tom Gordon was one of my favorite pitchers. He's the nicest guy in the world. I was sure to disclose that I was curious about him specifically, no need to get salty. My bad, my post was not directed at you.

QUOTE (witesoxfan @ Oct 2, 2014 -> 03:43 PM) There are actually a lot of guys I have issues with on that list. How many of those guys were one year wonders? How many were successful before getting with Cooper? Why can't Cooper fix guys and keep them fixed? How many of those guys were going to be good no matter who was pitching coach? How many of them are just not very good to begin with? It's pretty subjective in that manner. Like I said, I'm not trying to say Cooper is a bad pitching coach. I like him and like what he does, but so much of the coaching game is having good players. It's amazing we got one year out of a lot of those guys. That's the whole point.

Haha love how you nitpicked one guy