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Easily worst game of the season. Trifecta of bad pitching, defense and hitting. Changes need to be made with this roster.

Watching highlights from early in the game, it still pisses me off how many fastballs Rodon threw. The Pirates swung and missed a ton of offspeed pitches yesterday vs Hamels. Not sure why the game plan was so reliant on fastballs early in the count.

This team is playing bad enough that people will lose their job. Hahn needs to be accountable for some of these holes he left coming into this season. I don't necessarily think he should be fired, but he needs to shake things up.

QUOTE (dpd9189 @ Jun 16, 2015 -> 02:14 AM) I keep hearing the Sox can't do the full scale rebuild like the Cubs but at this point, I'm all for it. This team isn't going anywhere anytime soon. If you rebuild, you better have good talent scouts and developers

Had a chance to listen to Farmer and DJ. Holy cow do they hate this team. DJ was saying how the 1994 team he was on would have never had so many poor at bats as this team, as he seemed to be questioning their focus.

QUOTE (maggsmaggs @ Jun 16, 2015 -> 12:49 AM) He has taken a sizeable step back this year. It's really a shame. With the shaky defense, his offense was going to carry him, but a .700 OPS season is just brutal from a guy considered an easy top-100 prospect. Unfortunately, it's been a disappointing year so far on the farm. There's no one that I can say with confidence will be a starting infielder/outfielder/catcher/pitcher down the road at the big league level. Montas and Danish still have a lot of doubters in terms of their ability to start.

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Jun 15, 2015 -> 11:52 PM) We might as well try Leury, Saladino, Davidson, Micah and Sanchez in different combinations from 3B to 2B until we've eliminated nearly all of them from being legitimate 2016 options. or just give Johnson and Davidson as many at bats as possible if the Sox sell off the veterans. Guys like Saladino and Garcia are highly unlikely to play big roles next year.

QUOTE (chitownsportsfan @ Jun 16, 2015 -> 12:48 AM) Sucks it's gone this way but this team is awful, the run differential tells the story. The games they win are mostly close, many of the losses are blowouts thanks to the offense. Clean house. I know this is surprising from me, but I don't even blame Ventura for this mess. The players just flat out suck this season on this team. Never seen a group of veterans just all underachieve like this in the same year.

QUOTE (Condor13 @ Jun 16, 2015 -> 12:44 AM) Davidson needs to be playing 3B soon for the sox unless they trade for someone I don't think Davidson will hit over .200, but if he can play good defense and hit 16-20 homers in a season, I think I would take that at 3b over the current platoon.

This lineup vs Liriano has definite no-hit capability. Just not a lineup you can expect to compete.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Jun 15, 2015 -> 11:40 PM) Johnson, Beck, and Micah should be getting playing time too as well I assume it will happen once Samardzija gets traded. Plenty of time left for development, as that seems inevitable.

Hopefully now that he's healthy again, we start to see more extra base hits by Anderson. His slugging pct. is way down from last year.

QUOTE (Buehrle>Wood @ Jun 15, 2015 -> 11:34 PM) Lol To be fair, one of those games was started by Correia, who was in the minors all season.

Of his first 28 pitches, only 4 were sliders. What the hell is with that game plan?

QUOTE (GreenSox @ Jun 15, 2015 -> 11:33 PM) Send him down. He didn't have command in Charlotte and he doesn't have it here. He was great of late until this start. With this team not going anywhere this year, they should be using his starts to get him to mix in some change-ups. More focus on development, less focus on results.

All 5 hits off of the fastball...nice pitch selection

Pirates needed extra innings to even score a single run twice over the weekend.

Pull him, good effort Carlos

This team is so freaking bad. Even one of the few overachievers no-showed tonight.

QUOTE (flavum @ Jun 16, 2015 -> 12:27 AM) This is shaping up to be one of those times you pull the plug early to protect his innings. Nobody will be watching Noesi anyway. The preparation and effort level by this team early in games is just ridiculous.

Rodon better start throwing strikes if he wants to get out of the first few innings.

QUOTE (Condor13 @ Jun 15, 2015 -> 11:25 PM) Wtf kind of effort was that from flowers to block that slider I thought Soto was supposed to be Rodon's catcher?

Another great start for the Sox tonight.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jun 16, 2015 -> 12:13 AM) This is a pretty consistent trend. We ranked similarly past two years. We are a horrible defensive baseball team and nothing the team did this off-season changed that fact. In fact, they probably only got worse defensively (not better). I'm willing to bet the defense would instantly improve if they flipped Melky to RF and Avi to LF. From there, I expect we'll see a new 3rd baseman here next year that will be better defensively than Conor. A problem that's lurking for Hahn is the team desperately needs to find better offensive players, yet they need defensive upgrades as well. Guys that are good at both are usually very expensive.

QUOTE (knightni @ Jun 15, 2015 -> 09:02 PM) IIRC, the Sox wanted Kolek or Nola but Rodon fell into their lap. If Rodon was gone, they were taking Nola according to an article a few weeks ago. No idea who wrote it though.