fathom

They are giving us hope by not coming out and saying the roster is set

I see nothing wrong with what he said

Sure seems like Jennings will be dealt https://mobile.twitter.com/TBTimes_Rays/sta...897462260895745

QUOTE (LDF @ Jan 29, 2016 -> 02:01 AM) you make a very valid point there. however, that is the cost the sox would have to pay.... to cost of doing business. or in this case the cost of screwing up the org soooo bad that the sox needs to over pay players in order to get them to play here. the the sox FO to look in the mirror to see who screwed this org up, Sox not being competitive last year hurt in so many ways. There weren't supposed to be so many holes for 2016, but Hahn wasted a ton of money last offseason on players you wish weren't in the organization.

Cespedes is receiving a ten million dollar signing bonus over the next 30 days. I doubt the Sox had that in their budget. A lot of these playoff teams are using their revenue from the playoff games and utilizing it on signing bonuses. Thus it doesn't count towards their 2016 budget.

Merkin keeps insisting Turner has a shot at 5th spot. I don't get what they see in him.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jan 29, 2016 -> 02:35 AM) What else could he say? We spent all winter trying to replace the guy because he sucks, and now we are stuck with him? Not good when you have this situation and a DH you tried to pay 8 million dollars to another team to take.

QUOTE (Baron @ Jan 29, 2016 -> 01:09 AM) He also said he had to talk to Avi after the rumors and they are "excited" to have him starting in RF. This sucks...I wonder if Ventura makes it past July

QUOTE (Dunt @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 11:33 PM) Just don't know how you can sell Avi to the fanbase. We all have watched him the last 2 seasons, he is absolutely dreadful at every aspect of the game. To even be suitable starter, he's gonna need to be a 25-30 HR guy and nothing has ever shown he can be that. You still have holes at SS, DH, and maybe LF, you have the opportunity to improve in RF, to not address it just shows me this front office does not care about winning. It's looking like they completely misjudged the market on the big 3 outfielders.

QUOTE (BlackSox13 @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 11:48 PM) Rosenthal mentioned the Rays will save 4M because of this trade so maybe the Rockies took McGee and his salary to get better pitcher prospects for Dickerson. Hard to judge this trade without knowing the rest of the package the Rockies are getting. Rockies got German Marquez, nothing special

Was a reason ever given for why Rodon and Lawrie aren't going to be there?

They really just need to let Avi DH and worry only about hitting. What all the excuses about him only having one full year leaves out is he got hurt one of the other seasons cause he plays the outfield like as if he has never played the position.

QUOTE (soxfan2014 @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 10:09 PM) How many OF/DH does Tampa need? Loney, Morrison, Jennings, Kiermaier, Souza Jr, and now Dickerson. Plus it sounds like Brad Miller will see some time in the OF (depending on what else they do at short). Jennings possible trade chip. Lots of teams linked to him already.

Can't link it but Merkin also tweeted that Ventura knows Hahn is trying to tweak roster

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 10:56 PM) Same here. They'll only be improved some after only trading for a couple players. Not spending is ridiculous. Spending less than 10 million in free agency is inexcusable

QUOTE (TheFutureIsNear @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 09:48 PM) Wow, makes you wonder if we could have offered something like Petricka and Guerrero and gotten Dickerson already. The FO better having something up their sleeves because all of this sitting on their hands while the OF market passes them by isn't go to get this team to the playoffs. You would have thought if nothing else Detroit getting Upton would have lit a fire under them...makes you wonder if Hahn is handcuffed with the payroll as it is? Just very frustrating. I think McGee is beloved by MLB teams more than fans think. I know Levine said last week the Cubs thought of him as their potential closer of the future.

QUOTE (Dunt @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 10:47 PM) If Avi is the starting RF again next season and he struggles, the front office should be cleaned the f*** out. That is not the horse I'd want to hitch my wagon to if I was Hahn. Couldn't agree more. Hahn has been a total disaster so far. Results on the field have sucked and the system is a mess.

Avi will be around but doesn't mean it's not as DH

QUOTE (ChiSoxFanMike @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 09:28 PM) The Sox couldn't beat that offer? Seriously? What the hell is Hahn doing? No, Fathom, I'm not melting down. I'm just genuinely baffled as to why Hahn has done absolutely NOTHING to fix the OF problem the Sox have. Sox simply have no resources to trade that aren't important members of the team this year or next.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 10:06 PM) So I don't get it. You trade a quality young outfielder for a good reliever. Makes no sense to me. Is a highly thought of prospect also part of this trade with the Rockies? If not, I'm extremely dissapointed the Sox weren't interested in Dickerson. He is young, cost controlled, and when healthy has been a much much better ballplayer than Avi Garcia. Who do the Sox have to trade that's as valuable as McGee? No one that is easily replaceable.

QUOTE (chw42 @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 10:02 PM) Rosenthal thought this trade made no sense for the Rockies a few days a go. They have no use for McGee... They didn't have a closer. Do now

Wonder if Rockies flip McGee now. He's been rumored to a ton of teams this offseason, including Dodgers/Cubs/Nationals.

QUOTE (Sockin @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 09:43 PM) McGee going to the Rockies with others. He'll make a nice trade deadline acquisition for someone.

QUOTE (shipps @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 09:42 PM) As things continue to happen around the league it gets more and more likely Garcia is the Whitesox starting RF for next year. This move makes it way more likely the Sox get Fowler, IMO. No doubt in my mind he ends up with either the Cubs, Sox or Angels.

QUOTE (Dick Allen @ Jan 28, 2016 -> 08:40 PM) I'm sure a lot of teams would like 2 picks in the top 50 and Dexter Fowler. Agreed, and I know I've said this elsewhere, but I'm not that concerned about stacking up with draft picks right now. If the Sox decide to blow it up in a year or so, Sale/Q can restock the system immediately. Rather see what this core of players can do with another above average player on the roster.