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Wow, this team is so freaking awful. Only person who even put up a fight tonight was Pena. Seriously Ozzie, get Flowers and Viciedo some playing time.

Way to suck Linebrink and let Carter get his first career hit.

QUOTE (Quinarvy @ Sep 21, 2010 -> 05:09 AM) Should Kenny be marketing Pena as a possible starter on the trade market? No, he's more valuable to the Sox as a possible replacement starter for guys like Peavy. Pena should start the rest of the season to see if he can keep this up.

Lillibridge is not a Major League player. He's getting close to being Chuck Knoblauch in the field.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Sep 21, 2010 -> 04:50 AM) Any analysis of the sox using X player properly requires the Ozzie factor to be analyzed. Garcia is family and if he is on the team and Ozzie is here he is a starter. If he hit lefty and was grindy Ozzie would consider him the best baseball player that has ever played. Thought for sure when I saw that you posted it was going to be another fantastic rant about Walker's hitters fading like crazy down the stretch, especially with the long ball.

This team is just putting on a clinic with RISP lately.

QUOTE (J.Reedfan8 @ Sep 21, 2010 -> 04:38 AM) Shut him down. He's pitched about 190 innings anyway. I honestly would shut down Danks and Buehrle too, but I know we won't do that. But hey.. we get to see more Lucas Harrell and Carlos Torres! Might have to keep an eye out of that 15th race more closely. Jackson should be shut down as well. Instead, Ozzie seems to be pushing the starters more than usual. Really have to hope we dodge a bullet without having a serious Floyd shoulder injury.

Please add any updates about Floyd's injury to this thread

Play Tyler Flowers!

Tightness behind right shoulder for Gavin

QUOTE (South Side Fireworks Man @ Sep 21, 2010 -> 03:56 AM) Actually, he grabbed his tricep, not his bicep. Stone said the initial report is "shoulder tightness." Hopefully MRI comes back clean, and we shut him down for the season. If it's a severe shoulder issue, then Gavin has a very long road ahead of him.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Sep 21, 2010 -> 03:53 AM) Certainly not for a full season every 5th day, but as the occasional long reliever? Again, no thanks.

AP reporting it's likely a shoulder injury with Gavin.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Sep 21, 2010 -> 03:46 AM) I keep wondering if Garcia could fill the role of long reliever/spot starter next year. I could be wrong, but I don't think we can count on him for another full year as the 5th starter. However, I think he could be an interesting candidate for the role that Pena has found himself in this year a lot, which is coming in early in certain games with the hope of giving the Sox somewhere around three or four innings before they could get to the end of the bullpen. I know a lot of it depends on the ability to get warm quickly in the bullpen, but if Freddy could make that transition, I think it could be a great niche for him. No thanks on Garcia, as he cannot be relied upon for a full season and just like with most veterans, I have no faith in Ozzie to use him correctly.

Denver television reporting it's suicide....so sad

QUOTE (elrockinMT @ Sep 21, 2010 -> 02:35 AM) He grabbed his bicep Based on our luck this year, it will be a detached bicep, or something weird like that.

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Sep 21, 2010 -> 03:29 AM) On the replay of the last pitch he threw, you wouldn't have known that he hurt himself. There was no body language to suggest as much. Certainly nothing like what Peavy displayed on his last pitch of the season. So from that standpoint, I'm hoping it's not all that serious. Hopefully it's a back strain, etc.

Did Floyd just walk off the mound, or did Herm come out to get him?

QUOTE (Thad Bosley @ Sep 21, 2010 -> 03:22 AM) We don't know as of yet. The replay on the last pitch he made was inconclusive, but Stone said he saw him grab his right tricep when he was in the dugout. That's all we really know at this point. Ugh, that's not good. Can we just forfeit the rest of our games and save the team from everything that can possibly go wrong?

So Gavin got pulled on a 2-2 count? Please tell me it's a leg injury and not arm related.

What happened to Gavin?

QUOTE (J.Reedfan8 @ Sep 20, 2010 -> 04:40 AM) f*** it.. ima create a thread on our placement pick right now. I did it last year.... And greg, we know you want the Sox to win every game, and that you don't think draft placement matters. Please don't hijack that thread, thanks

QUOTE (caulfield12 @ Sep 20, 2010 -> 04:37 AM) Not to mention Lance Broadway... Broadway was flying up every team's chart, not just the Sox. It's not like Bogusevic and/or Carrillo did anything either.

QUOTE (Thunderbolt @ Sep 20, 2010 -> 05:35 AM) Like that time we had the #18th pick in 2002 and chose Royce Ring over Denard Span who fell 13 spots due to salary demands. Right, right? You should know I was being sarcastic.

QUOTE (JoeCoolMan24 @ Sep 20, 2010 -> 05:33 AM) I kind of wonder how many Dodger fans said this last year...... "Jim Thome just sucks. He needs to retire. Such a bum." Similar situations, except Manny has been better than Thome was. Good analogy (yes, that was sincere). Maybe Manny still has something left in the tank, but it's not going to be for the White Sox. His tenure here has been an absolute disappointment.