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QUOTE (SnB @ Nov 18, 2009 -> 06:48 PM) it was alot of fun watching the illini freshmen last night. It's amazing what happens to an offense when you're not playing 4 on 5 for four straight years.

QUOTE (Nokona @ Nov 18, 2009 -> 03:54 AM) Please, what B&B have been doing with Bears fans this season has been incredible radio. Agreed, last Friday's broadcast was incredible.

Illinois rarely ever plays a true road game out of conference.

QUOTE (Brian @ Nov 17, 2009 -> 02:15 AM) Did the guy get fouled on the heave? The camera work I saw was awful. My favorite play was with about 12 minutes left when Perry Stevenson caught a 10 foot jump shot at the rim and no goal-tending called. Then, Wall drives on a one on 4 and three guys block the shot, and they call a shooting foul.

Watch about 3 seconds before Wall's game winner. Maybe the most blatant carry you'll ever see.

Yeah, the refs in this game have been disgusting.

So yeah, Brandon Jennings is good.

San Juan Shootout with a solid field this year with Villanova, Dayton, Ga Tech, Kansas St, Ole Miss.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 13, 2009 -> 08:22 PM) Nah, I later realized you were talking about the throw to Kellen Davis, which was an obvious PI. The pick 6 you were referring to was a throw where Hester just waited for the ball instead of going after it and because of it a Niner was able to almost jump the route and take it for six. No, the pick 6 I was referring to was when Cutler tried to force a throw instead of throwing it out of bounds. His hand got hit as he threw it, and the ball floated in the air and ended up falling incomplete.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 13, 2009 -> 07:12 PM) Look at Jay's history, he is not a turnover prone QB. He's a gunslinger that turns it over, but prior to the last 12 or so weeks, he really didn't turn the ball over a whole ton. The problem is, when your are asked to throw 50 times and teams can seat back and wait and still get to the QB you are going to end up throwing a lot more picks (its the nature of the biz). Give him even decent offensive talent and he might just win an MVP. Thats how f***ing good Cutler is. Wasn't he among the league leaders last year in interceptions? Like I said yesterday, I like Cutler a lot (especially compared to Orton), but he's not living up to the hype, plain and simple.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Nov 13, 2009 -> 07:04 PM) Are you f***ing kidding me...that throw was on Hester not coming back to the ball. Cutler made two stupid passes (both picks in the end zone) and lets be honest, the last one he had to force the ball cause time was gone. In theory he should have thrown it away and we get one more play, but his last pick wasn't really the end of the world. No idea what play I was referring to, but I don't think it had to do with a throw to Hester.

QUOTE (Friend of Nordhagen @ Nov 13, 2009 -> 05:49 AM) No. That's just the point. It doesn't "all" fall on Cutler. But for some folks, none of it falls on Cutler. I GET that Cutler has talent. I GET that he's way down the list of problems. Turner is a dope. Angelo built the worst offensive line in the league. Forte looks slow. And the receivers are inexperienced and not so good. I don't even like Kyle Orton, unlike some wackos who make it all about him. What I'm pointing out is something different -- a very weird excuse-everything-Cutler-does mentality that has started to creep into these discussions about the Bears. He's the quarterback, and he's turned it over a lot. And some of those -- yes -- are his fault. His fault. This is a perfect post, thanks FoN!

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Nov 13, 2009 -> 05:31 AM) as time runs out. With 8 seconds left, he should have launched it as soon as no one was open. Even Matt Millen said that...and I never thought I'd use that as my supporting argument.

QUOTE (southsideirish71 @ Nov 13, 2009 -> 05:30 AM) The one where Hester fell down? I am sure he misses the line he had in Denver. And the receivers who actually can get open and run routes and catch the ball. Sorry, I meant the one in the end zone. I will say that Cutler is amazing at escaping pressure in the pocket.

QUOTE (Athomeboy_2000 @ Nov 13, 2009 -> 05:28 AM) Note: That last pass was forced because no one was open and time was about to run out. On those plays, if no one is open, you have to launch it out of back of the end zone.

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Nov 13, 2009 -> 05:27 AM) The screen was the biggest play of the night. They're referring to the WR screens. You're right, the RB screen worked better tonight than ever.

It sucks cause I really like Cutler, I hated Orton...yet I can't stand Cutler's decision making and thought his body language after the first pick was disgusting.

Ugh, Cutler sorta struggles on National Television (if you consider this game that). Just a terrible game for Cutler.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Nov 13, 2009 -> 05:14 AM) great discipline guys!!!! Way to be, not a close game or anything That looked like one of those cheesy football parody movies where the fattest guy on the field jumps on the pile.

QUOTE (Friend of Nordhagen @ Nov 13, 2009 -> 04:11 AM) This team is one of the worst-assembled and worst-coached teams I've seen in a long time. I'm sure a lot of people heard B&B review Angelo's draft picks over the last 5 years. It's amazingly bad.

The defense has played phenomenal tonight. Hell of an effort by the DTs

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Nov 13, 2009 -> 04:57 AM) See this is the exact argument I don't understand. If 3/4 of his picks are not his fault and everyone around him is failing...why the hell is it his fault? Logic fail. Well, I'm not giving him the benefit of the doubt on the first and last pick. He was playing solid football in first half, but he's missed some easy passes in 2nd half and he got extremely lucky the 49ers didn't have a pick 6 on the last play of the Bears last drive.

The funny thing is that before tonight, I thought our wide receivers were actually playing good football all season. Minimal drops, key catches, etc.

Don't get me wrong guys, I like Cutler a hell of a lot more than I did Orton. However, he needs to get his composure back right now. He's having a dreadful game and has now missed a few easy passes to go along with his picks.

QUOTE (Jenksy Cat @ Nov 13, 2009 -> 03:48 AM) Yeah that would be a fantastic idea. This f***ing coaching staff needs more criticism, not one of the few decent offensive players we have. You know I think Turner is an absolute joke, and can't believe he still has a job (the similarities between him and Greg Walker are scary). Funny comment from my wife, who is much less critical than I am "was Forte on steroids last year, as he seems slower than s*** this season"