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That's the best play I've seen live in my life.

Yes, Uribe is still in the lineup. Unfortunately, it's a police lineup.

QUOTE(GoSox05 @ Oct 17, 2006 -> 07:18 PM) i wouldnt be suprised. It seems like there isnt a lot Pierre fans, but i like him. I've actually grown to love this idea. If Ozzie's going to try and play Ozzieball, we might as well have someone who can steal bases, create situations with his speed, bunt, and make contact.

Thanks for the two great plays in the 9th inning of Game 4 of the WS....now get lost Juan. P.S.- please don't shoot me for that comment.

QUOTE(Buehrle>Wood @ Oct 16, 2006 -> 03:29 AM) I'm sorry fathom, but that's just an unanswerable question. Predictions are predictions, but you are asking for an exact number of wins between two teams we haven't even seen play yet. Oh, of course. But I just see this trash talking saying how Kansas won't be good, etc., and I was just wondering if he was going to say that Illinois would win 8 times out of 10 (or something like that). Because if someone is going to go with that view, then it's real hard to have an unbiased argument.

I don't know if this is old news, but NBC News reported tonight that the Sox beat the Cubs in TV ratings for the first time in two decades.

QUOTE(TaylorStSox @ Oct 16, 2006 -> 03:13 AM) Better in the second half? They play in a garbage conference and lost in the first round of the tourney. Try again. btw... this all started when the KU fan started antagonizing Illini fans at a time when we're obviously pissed. So the "trash talking" is somewhat justified. Illinois played one of the worst at-large teams in the history of the tournament, and then lost in the 2nd round of the tournament. In 2004, I can understand trash talking about the tournament showing by Kansas. However last year, they lost to a damn good Bradley team. Taylor...let me ask you this: if Kansas played Illinois this year 10 times on a neutral court, how many times would you predict Illinois would win?

QUOTE(TaylorStSox @ Oct 16, 2006 -> 02:42 AM) I never said they were boring. I said they're frustrating to watch because they have so much talent but suck so bad. Face it. All those burger boys and you're getting beat by mid majors in the only games that really count. Kansas, with a bunch of freshman, was clearly a better team after December than Illinois was last season (a team with a lot of experience). Kansas returns everyone from that same team, and Illinois lost their two stable forces. I'm not a big fan of either team, but Illinois fans might want to think twice before trash talking Kansas fans about what's going to happen this year.

QUOTE(redandwhite @ Oct 15, 2006 -> 10:33 PM) Well, with all due respect, him or anyone else on here isn't a manager because we don't have the same oppurtunities and connections than Ozzie Guillen, someone who played the game and has all the connections in the world. I couldn't have been more sarcastic.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Oct 15, 2006 -> 02:18 PM) Don't you find it interesting that just about everyone in baseball, even the Yankees where money isn't an issue, find McCarthy a lot more attractive than any of the other members of the greatest rotation ever assembled. Maybe just maybe Ozzie is wrong, and BMac is a good starting pitcher. Will you stop!! If you know so much more than Ozzie, then why aren't you the manager?

Looks like we're never going to hear someone say he has a gun defensively anymore.

How did D.J. White look tonight? Anyone think he can stay healthy this year?

Here's my thought on the Gordon sage: this isn't Sampson's fault. Gordon did nothing to try and prevent IU from recruiting him once Sampson took the job. Rather, it seems like Gordon Jr. loved the attention, and he felt like IU was a better fit for him. This isn't a scenario where someone like Coach K all of a sudden decided to recruit a player, and then he went after someone who had already verballed to a program. At the end of the day, Gordon Jr. wanted to go to IU and play for Sampson.

QUOTE(Steff @ Oct 11, 2006 -> 09:04 PM) Though there is no proof and all witness accounts state the plane appeared to have mechanical issues. I don't see the point in s***ting on the guy. And if it's not true, it's libel. Or is there a direct quote from AR.... I'm actually pretty sure that there were some direct quotes in the war of words between Lidle and Rhodes that was very ugly.

QUOTE(Steff @ Oct 11, 2006 -> 08:57 PM) Very. Would you mind altering the hearsay you posted above? In regards to what Rhodes said? I think it's relevant just because it shows that someone has already mentioned a while ago that he's a reckless pilot.

Rumors I'm hearing is that Lidle definitely was in the plane, and he's presumed to have died.

2004 stats don't mean anything now. They're about as worthless as Scott Podsednik's left arm.

I was told that Phil Rogers has an article in the upcoming Baseball America about this.

I've heard that the Sox have left him off of the 40 man roster, so he's going to be a FA unless they change their mind in the next few weeks. Any update on his situation?

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Oct 10, 2006 -> 02:36 AM) actually, the one knock on Ryan Zimmerman is his putrid defense. He had issues in his only minor league season as well as issues this year in the majors. he's a loooong way from the gold glove. just look at his .965 fielding percentage this season, compare that to .978... I thought he's considered one of the best young defensive 3B in history?

This thread has the potential to be the longest thread in soxtalk history? So far, what's been the thread with the most pages?

QUOTE(RockRaines @ Oct 9, 2006 -> 02:28 AM) The fans dont pay the bills. You have to think Big George is not happy with A-rod right now, and someone has to be shown the door. Out of all the marquee players that you let go, he is the first. Plus you know they are going to make a run at pitching next year, why dont we offer up some clutch playoff pitchers (Garcia, Mark, Count) and see if they bite on one of them. This isn't meant for you Rock, but the next one to offer up Contreras or Vazquez in a trade to the Yankees is going to make me punch someone.

QUOTE(redandwhite @ Oct 8, 2006 -> 11:52 PM) All good points row, fath, collapse. It seemed to me that far too often this season Uribe and Anderson were automatic outs. You can't be giving up two outs every time through the order. Obviously the main point of this thread is Alex Rodriguez, I think we're all in agreement that Rodriguez at short stop for the White Sox would be an excellent acquisition. As for the asking price, I think the people who threw out Crede and Garcia are on to something. You're absolutely right about them being automatic outs...it really killed our offense when you take into consideration how pathetic Pods was this season. If Uribe is your only designated "defensive" player, then he's a great fit. It's when you have too many other "defensive" players, that's when the easy outs start to add up.

Much like Freddy Garcia, Juan Uribe is the type of player who I think will definitely have "career years" during their contract years.

QUOTE(redandwhite @ Oct 8, 2006 -> 11:40 PM) I don't come here to start s***, you did that yourself. I came here to talk baseball, saying that I thought a guy making top dollar with the lowest on-base percentage in baseball didnt have trade value isn't flawed. Is top dollar really 4.5 million for someone who will hit you 20 homers and drive in 70 RBI while hitting at the bottom of the order....while playing well above average defense? No offense red, but you make it sound like he's making 8 mil a year on a team with a 40 million dollar payroll.