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Quite ironic that some of us have been fighting all Spring Training for Logan and Anderson to make it, as I'm sure others are like me in not exactly thinking these guys are world beaters. For me personally, it's all about the message the organization is sending, as well as the incompetence of our manager to evaluate personnel.

IF this team isn't going to make the playoffs, I wish for the following three things to happen: - be far enough out of the race by the deadline to trade Buehrle - Ozzie continues his idiotic act and says something that gets him fired - Danks proves he can be a MLB starting pitcher

QUOTE(spiderman @ Mar 29, 2007 -> 04:35 AM) Yep, we're back to having the revolving door at the #5 spot - yet Kenny says the White Sox didn't take a step back. I hope he is right. As it relates to the 2007 season, this offseason was an absolute disaster. From day one, I stated that this offseason wasn't the year to start worrying about the future. Rather, the offseason coming up would have been the ideal time to start loading up on prospects.

QUOTE(TheOcho @ Mar 29, 2007 -> 04:26 AM) Wowww... When they ask Ozzie why Logan didn't make the team he's going to say it's because of the game he walked two batters, Wow... I noted this during the game thread. Ozzie was b****ing about Logan's control, yet was praising Danks for throwing strikes after he was wild last game.

Blum/Jenks/Garcia

I really don't know why we even had Spring Training this year. It seems like the only things that were accomplished were figuring out we have no one ready to be our 5th starter....and Toby Hall isn't a first baseman.

Comcast just stated that Logan and Floyd didn't make the team. I have no faith in our organization right now to make the right decision....it's really sad.

Is MacDougal's velocity down? Let's hope he avoids the DL this year....but that might be wishful thinking.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 09:51 PM) I was thinking the same thing as Hawk and DJ. You pull a muscle attempting to stretch a double into a triple in a blowout I'll f***ing kill you. Is he ok?

QUOTE(Jenks Heat @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 09:37 PM) Why is that this team simply refuses to make a pitcher work by fouling off good pitches or letting them go rather than swinging at everything. They never fouled off tough pitches last year. We'd take so many called third strikes. I'll have my Pods called 3rd strike counter going this year. Someone should keep track of how many times Thome takes a called third strike on a full count, and starts running towards first to try and sell it.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 09:32 PM) Is missing the strikezone, failing to exceed 91 mph, and giving up inherited runners considered positive? That bad? I have a feeling Jenks will be on the DL sometime during April.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 09:30 PM) Jenks in. Give us something positive.....please

I don't bet on baseball, but if Santana does face Danks during that 2nd series of the year, you could make a lot of money betting on the Twins. I like Danks, and think he'll eventually be a good #3 starter, but he's going to have a lot of trouble in the majors right now.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 09:25 PM) Saying they should be able to pull out a 5.50 ERA is a lot different from saying they'll have a lower ERA than McCarthy. Trust me, there were people on here over the last few weeks saying that Danks or Floyd would put up a similar/better ERA to McCarthy.

QUOTE(Gene Honda Civic @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 09:23 PM) Which should you believe, 10 random innings in Tucson, or a minor league career spanning (without looking it up) 450 innings? Totally different game though facing major league hitters. When I was watching Danks last game, he was throwing a lot of high fastballs (at 91 mph, that pitch might go a long way). In the minors, you'll get more guys swinging at that pitch than you will in the majors.

QUOTE(shawnhillegas @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 09:22 PM) Is this a highly contested point? Oh yeah. It amazes me how many people think we can just throw "name your pitcher" into the 5th starting role, and at worst, they'll have a 5.50 ERA. The common argument is that the list of guys we have up for contention is better than the busters in 2004. However, the minor league numbers for many of the 2004 busters were just as good as the guys we've been trying out for the 5th starter spot now.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Ozzie was complaining in the press yesterday because Boone walked two guys. However, the last week or so, he's been saying how much he likes Danks cause he can throw strikes? Didn't Danks walk 4 guys in his last outing? I would still love to bet anyone that McCarthy's ERA will be better this year than whoever is our 5th starter.

QUOTE(BFirebird @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 08:13 PM) Same here. He dominates us. It's funny....I thought he meant he hoped Farmer wouldn't be around on Monday.

QUOTE(Soxbadger @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 06:50 PM) I dont see how an unbiased observer can believe any of the bulls*** coming from the Gordon camp. Even the old Indiana articles paint the picture horribly for him. That's what I'm saying.....the fault should go totally towards the Gordon family, and Sampson doesn't deserve the hate he's received. QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 06:54 PM) Sorry, now I understand what you were trying to say. My point was that there was speculation for a long time about Gordon, when Sampson became the coach. There's a blog post in there in the July archives discussing the matter. I'm sure if you look in this thread, from the time Sampson was hired from the time EJ committed, you'll see plenty of discussion on the topic. Illinois had to be curious about what was going on, but EJ definitely put them in a bad spot to where they couldn't really prepare well either way. Justin Young, one of the best sources when it comes to recruiting, was one of the first to report from the summer camps that Gordon has reopened his recruitment. H

QUOTE(iguchi=dank @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 06:38 PM) Hey fathom, did ya read the al/nl central pecota article on prospectus today, they tried to explain the forecast for us. Loved the part about LF and CF. Haven't seen it yet....anyway you can link that, or is it premium?

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 06:19 PM) On one hand, good news for our Sox. On the other hand, bad news for a few of my fantasy teams. Careful there....

Ozzie's been saying for a month now that Ozuna will start on opening day.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Mar 28, 2007 -> 05:33 PM) I don't think this article says anything new Soxbadger. I think everyone knew Gordon was looking and thinking about IU when Sampson became the coach. If Illinois or Weber couldn't figure that out, there's some major problems over there. His visits to Bloomington weren't kept secret or anything. It's like the boy who everyone tells him that his girlfriend is cheating on him, but he doesn't want to believe it. Even if the girl is telling him to his face that she's been faithful, he should know better that there's too much smoke for there not to be a fire. It amazes me how much hate Illini fans have for Sampson for this whole thing. Any coach in America would have done the same thing Sampson did, and last time I checked, coaches don't need to tell other coaches who they are recruiting or not.

There were some minor league experts that were claiming Haeger be a great player for some team to trade for this offseason, as the Sox weren't that high on him, but he's very projectable as a knuckler.

We're not going to be trading for a back-up catcher until we know Hall is out for the year.