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FWIW, Ozzie and the coaching staff was aware before the game that Jenks was having shoulder tightness.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Mar 1, 2007 -> 03:33 AM) Anytime a pitcher has to leave a game after 10 pitches because of an issue with a shoulder or an elbow you have to be concerned. If Jenks said he's had this problem since spring training started, can someone explain to me why the hell he took the mound today? I was thinking the same exact thing. It's frustrating that Garland said he felt tightness in his shoulder also, and couldn't get loose. If that's the case, then why are we putting these guys on the field right now?

QUOTE(GoSox05 @ Feb 28, 2007 -> 10:29 PM) just tightness in his shoulder. No pain. It's good that he didn't feel pain, but you have to be concerned whenever a pitcher (especially a power pitcher like Jenks) has shoulder tightness.

QUOTE(hi8is @ Feb 28, 2007 -> 10:25 PM) i thought that was regarding his breaking ball No, fastball Jenks has tightness in his shoulder....that's never a good sign.

Interesting that Danks pitching coach from last year said he only throws 88 to 90 mph. Most of the scouting reports when we traded for him said he throws 90 to 93 mph.

QUOTE(CWSGuy406 @ Feb 28, 2007 -> 10:17 PM) BA rocked a double. 1-for-3 on the day. Said the ball went about 450 feet. Seems like we have 4 or 5 doubles from our main offensive guys.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Feb 28, 2007 -> 10:14 PM) Just got back from class, can anyone give an overview so far? Buehrle and Garland got shelled, and Jenks threw about 10 pitches (with no control), and pulled himself after calling Ozzie and Herm to the mound. No update on his condition.

Needless to say, if there's any injury report relayed on the radio, please report it here.

QUOTE(CaliSoxFanViaSWside @ Feb 28, 2007 -> 09:43 PM) 3 pitchers 3 diasters . Well, at least MacDougal is as dependable as it gets. I almost wonder if Jenks was trying to overthrow too much, as he usually starts off in the low 90s in ST.

BP might have to lower our projected win total to 70 now.

Well, this is about the worst thing that can happen. Jenks called for the trainer, and is getting pulled.

To be honest, Singleton sounds much better right now. There's not as much dead-air time, and he sounds more energetic than he did in the past.

A walk and stolen base from a leadoff hitter!!

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Feb 28, 2007 -> 08:11 PM) Well on the sunny side, Mark is getting cheaper by the pitch. I'm very happy we didn't sign him to a 4 or 5 year extension. I was thinking about this over the offseason, but what Buehrle needs right now is to switch to the NL. The AL seems to have a good game plan against him after seeing him for 5 years now. BTW: this has NOTHING to do with the start of this game. Just a thought I've had about Buehrle for a few months now.

Cancel the postgame....and season. So, who can we get for Buehrle?

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Feb 28, 2007 -> 07:48 PM) Yup, cheering for an individual over the White Sox, w000000000000000000t. I'll never understand it, and trust me, there are plenty more who don't, it doesn't make any sense. I agree with you 100 percent. This is close to being as bad as people that say "oh well, I'm not mad that he hit a walkoff homer, at least (insert player's name) is on my fantasy team". I hated Timo Perez, but I still rooted for him because he was on the White Sox. On the other hand, I would never root for a player against the White Sox.

QUOTE(Jimbo @ Feb 27, 2007 -> 08:17 PM) This sounds bad, but Santo won't get in until hes dead. just my thought It's so hard for me to resist Santo jokes right now.

The more I watch the shows back-to-back, the more I realize how much better Prison Break is than 24. The twists and turns on Prison Break actually make sense, while the 24 stuff is so recycled.

QUOTE(Beltin @ Feb 27, 2007 -> 03:48 PM) They got the Cubs' draft picks. At 96 losses for the Cubs and another 91 for the Nationals, that should equate to a competitive team 5 or so years from now. Compared to the type of prospects they could have received for Soriano, those draft picks are mediocre. It's too bad we don't have any toolsy outfielders, as we could have gotten Soriano easily from Bowden.

QUOTE(Steve9347 @ Feb 27, 2007 -> 03:35 PM) That would have been the worst trade of all-time. And that's why Jim Bowden is an idiot and the Nats got nothing for Soriano.

QUOTE(U can putitontheboarrrrd...YES @ Feb 27, 2007 -> 03:08 PM) He did no such thing. He said that last seasons rumors of the Nats trading Soriano for player X were false and that he would not hesitate to make any deal if he thought it would help the ballclub win. You could tell exactly what he was saying about the trade, and that how he sometimes have to respond when certain trade rumors are not accurate (in this case, he said he's not someone who's afraid to pull the trigger on a trade). I actually heard a similar story about what went down with the Nationals, and that they were asking for a lot more than just McCarthy for Soriano. They were asking for McCarthy, Broadway, and Fields.

Even though he didn't say this in exact words, KW basically inferred that if the Nats would have taken McCarthy straight up for Soriano, he would have pulled the trigger on the trade.

If we're going to be anywhere near as bad as this projection believes, I hope we struggle early, which will force KW to get something in return for Buehrle at the deadline.

QUOTE(Felix @ Feb 27, 2007 -> 03:02 AM) Why not give Fields more time to blossom (offensively and defensively in LF) at AAA though? How do we know his year last year wasn't a fluke? I mean, it was his first REALLY good offensive year in his minor league career (and afaik, he's never played LF regularly), and I'd rather give him the time he needs to prove he's ready for the majors as opposed to rushing him and potentially screwing him up mentally. That's why I suggested we give him the chance right now to win the spot, instead of just hoping that Pods comes back from his injury. We all know that Pods is a very below average player if he's not 100 pct, and it's questionable how healthy he'll be during the first few months of the season. I don't care how crappy the coaching was during Winter Ball....it's inexcusable that Fields didn't get more playing time in the outfield this offseason.

QUOTE(ptatc @ Feb 27, 2007 -> 09:38 AM) Let's see you don't want a pitcher in the majors who hasn't proved anything however you want a hitter who isn't proven in the majors to play a position he has never played before in professional baseball? You must rank defense lower than you do speed on the hierarchy of baseball skills. I know you really dislike Floyd but to start a guy in a position he hasn't played before and expect anything good is just silly. Remeber the early years of Lee in LF? Fields is a good athlete, and compared to what Pods offers defensively in LF, I would gladly like to see Fields get a chance to prove he can play out there.