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QUOTE(bunkerf16 @ Sep 3, 2006 -> 08:49 PM) Question for you Sox fans........how many in here thought Ozzie was a good manager last year, and how much of the "Ozzie Sucks" mantra going on here is because of frustration with how the team is playing......Did you guys think Ozzie sucked last year too, and they won dispite him, or has his management style changed since last year..... Thanks..... I thought he sucked last year. However, when you have amazing starting pitching and a bullpen which is untouchable, any manager will get good results.

The biggest chance this team needs to make is with their manager. His recent quotes illustrate that he has no clue how to manage this particular personnel.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Sep 3, 2006 -> 08:48 PM) It would suck to get swept by the Red Sox. And I think that just might happen. If Ortiz is back tomorrow, then I think it's very possible. Any word on Manny's status?

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Sep 3, 2006 -> 08:47 PM) The AL wildcard is just about who sucks least down the stretch. I hope everyone now realizes how bad of a manager Ozzie Guillen is. People forget how terrible he was in the last two months of last season last year. Thankfully, our starting pitching ruled in the postseason. Ozzie made two terrible calls in the postseason last year (bringing in Marte and Hermanson), but luckily got bailed out. QUOTE(CWSOX45 @ Sep 3, 2006 -> 08:47 PM) World Class Cheerleader.....Piecebb of s*** manager. That's the problem....he's not a cheerleader this year.

If we don't make the playoffs, this season can't end soon enough. It's hard to really enjoy watching this team right now. Ozzie should thank his lucky starts that Dye and Crede have allowed this team to be over .500 this year.

Is it possible for a manager to choose the wrong thing every time? I'm convinced it is after watching this series. Thankfully Gathright was brought in for the 7th inning, or we're looking at a likely sweep.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Sep 3, 2006 -> 08:39 PM) jphat would say the homers were just bloops hit on great pitches. Yep, Garcia meant to hang that pitch to Shealy.

Want to play a little deeper Uribe? I HATE YOU OZZIE GUILLEN!

QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Sep 3, 2006 -> 08:38 PM) Ozzie f***ing up so much Since game 2 of the season, and hasn't stopped much since then.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Sep 3, 2006 -> 08:37 PM) How can anyone even defend Ozzie anymore? And bah, I hate BMac in close/late situations with short outings. It's too bad the good posters don't come in here, as they're about the only people that do defend him. I'd love to hear what Wealz has to say about this game.

QUOTE(maggsmaggs @ Sep 3, 2006 -> 08:36 PM) why freddy garcia started that inning blows my mind. Why Neal comes in blows my mind even more. And some dumbasses will still argue that he doesn't try to get his buddies the win every time they're on the mound.

I wish Ozzie would have stuck to his word and quit after we won the World Series.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Sep 3, 2006 -> 08:34 PM) Does Ozzie want to win this game? Why do anything different and panic?

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Sep 3, 2006 -> 08:32 PM) Ozzie you f***ing moron you never cease to amaze me. Get a clue. Can the bus home with him, Cora, Garcia, Pods, and Uribe get lost for the next 30 days?

QUOTE(BearSox @ Sep 3, 2006 -> 08:32 PM) omg! ozzie is actually taking out the starting pitcher! What a shocker...one batter too late.

I'm sorry, but is Ozzie trying to get fired?

Freddy's still in!!! I HATE YOU OZZIE GUILLEN!

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Sep 3, 2006 -> 08:30 PM) Luckily, we have the meat of the order coming up for the 9th. We're going to see Mackowiak, Cintron, and Gload

PK's homer earlier is definitely not going to get him out of pull mode.

Good job Jim!!! You should only be hitting against righties, but way to deliver.

QUOTE(iguchi=dank @ Sep 3, 2006 -> 08:19 PM) Honestly I don't even blame the pitching staff much these last 2 series, I don't think we've faced 1 pitcher with solid solid stuff. Most of the pitchers have been guys who've sucked pretty much their whole career, and our offense can't do anything. It would be nice if one of our starters went out and made one or two runs enough for a win though.

QUOTE(shoota @ Sep 3, 2006 -> 08:16 PM) I understand your point that there's nothing Ozzie could do to improve the performances of his starters, but he could have made adjustments to other facets of the team that would have lead to more victories: starting BA in center more often, Mack in LF, and his poor use of the bullpen and Cotts, Riske and Politte. I disagree. Ozzie's reluctance to ever pull a starter early has done nothing to help the fatigue from last year's inning toll and the fatigue they've had this season. It's amazing how bad the starters have been considering there's only been one DL stint between all of them this year.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Sep 3, 2006 -> 08:14 PM) 2 out of 3 to the Yanks in Yankee stadium. We however have had 6 games against the worst 2 teams in the AL. And we are going to split them. f***ing pathetic. And we had to have gifts in all three games to eventually win them.

QUOTE(daa84 @ Sep 3, 2006 -> 08:07 PM) actually reality caught up with them I still remember people calling me crazy when I said we needed to upgrade our offense at the trade deadline more than we needed to upgrade our pitching. There's only so much you can to do upgrade pitching, but there are a lot of offensive options that we could have looked into.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Sep 3, 2006 -> 08:08 PM) Guys like Rodgers, Moyer, Redman, whatever want right handers to pull their weak ass fastball on the outside corner to the SS and 3rd baseman. To beat this type of pitcher, either they have to make mistakes over the middle, or you have to go oppo on it. But going oppo would cause Gregs head to explode. How about the fact that Thome used to be a 2nd half player, and has been a disappointment in the 2nd half this year? Meanwhile, Frank Thomas is on a team notorious for being amazing in the 2nd half, and he's going nuts.