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QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 03:24 AM) Anyone who believes, as Hawk/DJ did, that Podsednik's HBP wasn't intentional is certifiably baseball retarded. It couldn't have been a better situation to drill one of our hitters. And gues what? Not only were our pitchers disgraced, hitters overwhelmed, but Texas stomped on our corpse at the end. It's embarrassing to even think about. I'm optimistic it will pump us up. The real question is this: Ozzie said we would retaliate if they do anything fishy. Now, his boy is pitching tomorrow for us. Will he risk ejection for Garcia, and order him to throw at a Rangers batter?

QUOTE(Felix @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 03:22 AM) He's been around for awhile in game threads, just not posting. I miss him around here. At least he started intelligent threads.

Another week or so of this miserable team play, and we're going to find ourselves in a lot of trouble.

Thank you Texas!!! That might be the spark we need. Ozzie is going to flip about this. Why can't Ozzie charge Buck in the dugout?

QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 03:10 AM) Well I'm not going to go back and research your posts but you know and I know you have been beating the drum for at least two years now about Cotts being good vs. righthanded hitters, and why doesn't Ozzie leave him in for the whole inning. How about just admitting it for once? As for leaving Cotts in, they were down by 3 runs already so I can see why he did it. You're right that I say Cotts should be allowed to start an inning once in a while. He's good enough where he should be allowed the right to get 3 outs on his own in an inning. Against a tough righty though who has seen Cotts before and done well vs him, I don't think he should still be in. We have 3 very good non-closer relievers in Cotts, McCarthy, and Thornton. All 3 of them should be allowed to be more than just one batter relievers.

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 03:09 AM) Who up for starting a link for Tracey > Garcia in the rotation? You'd go from the longest leash in history to the shortest leash.

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 03:05 AM) Ozzie is destroying a lot of Sox fans inside. I'm not ready to blame this whole slump on Ozzie, as it's a massive slump by the whole team. However, when things are going bad, that's when you need your manager/coaches to be at his best. It's easy to manage a team when you're hitting 5 homers and the pitchers are throwing complete games. Showalter managed a phenomenal game tonight with his decision to pull Wasdin when he did.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 03:04 AM) Right and how many times have we heard on this site, especially from you, that Cotts is just as good against righthanded hitters and Guillen should stop matching up "strictly based on the hand someone throws or hits with"? Let's face it. It's the players who aren't executing. Guillen is giving them plenty of chances to do so. Actually, I haven't said the Cotts thing against righties once this year. He's been better against lefties all season. I was the person saying that Jenks should have face Jason Michaels in game 3 of this season, and not Cotts in a crucial situation. Do you really think Cotts should have been left in?

QUOTE(Heads22 @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 03:02 AM) At lot of it goes on Ozzie, IMO. We had a great chance to get some momentum from the first game against the Tigers. Then we don't use our starting lineup the next two games, which cost us in game 3. I just simply don't know what the hell he was thinking leaving Cotts in to face Mench. Mench is very good against lefties, and has destroyed Cotts. If you have Tracey warming up, bring him in the damn game.

QUOTE(Greg The Bull Luzinski @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 03:02 AM) Apologists Aside: Medical Diagnosis, choking. This isn't choking. In order to choke, you have to fall far down. We're still in the Wild Card race, and it's not like we've dropped 10 games in the standings. This is just awful baseball, and it's by nearly all 25 of our guys, and our 4 main coaches should be embarrassed.

QUOTE(Butter Parque @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 03:01 AM) at this point we are a laughing stock with our effort and our execution I wonder who Ozzie will verbally attack tomorrow in the press. Today, it was radio talk show hosts.

QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 03:00 AM) Phuck this. Season is officially over IMO. Come on now, don't give up.

Textbook managing by Ozzie...the guy's 2-2 with 2 homers against Cotts.

Sometimes I wonder about our scouting reports. From everyone I've talked to about Young, you want to avoid throwing him 2 strike offspeed pitches. Of course, we threw IRod numbers 2 strike offspeed pitches, and he really hurt us.

QUOTE(Tony82087 @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 02:48 AM) I feel bad, because I understand there are people that live thousands of miles away and cant make it the Cell, however tomorrow will be my 26th game of the season, and its the 1st of 06 that I really do NOT want to attend. I have a feeling that if it gets ugly, we'll hear a lot of booing tomorrow.

Will ESPN have this as their poll tonight "Do the White Sox have the best rotation, minus one inning, in history?"

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 02:47 AM) PK=CLUTCH Roll over some more grounders please He looks so tired up there. I was hoping it was just the flu he had.

QUOTE(SoxFan562004 @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 02:45 AM) maybe I'm looking at this too critically, but Hawk is saying he doesn't notice a difference being around the team during this funk, but I see a difference in watching the games. Their approach at the plate lately has been like a team 25 games under playing for contracts. Cooper's comment about fatigue didn't strike me as an overly positive clubhouse. This team just sucks right now.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 02:44 AM) Please PK, I'm sick of begging you for big hits. DO IT. Outside of the first Tigers game, it seems we've seen a ton of weak pop-ups to the right side (the Tony Graffanino special) or rolled-over grounders to the left side.

Iguchi with some very odd swings tonight. This would have been a golden opportunity for Thome's first bunt attempt. We caught a break! Make them pay Konerko. Thome looks a little gimpy.

QUOTE(SoxFan562004 @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 02:38 AM) ok, a guy with a 4.95 ERA, but pitches well against left handers, so good to see Pablo still sitting on the bench!! Pods is 2-3 tonight, and Ozuna has looked like a pitcher at the plate recently. You can't blame Ozzie for this decision. Ozuna is likely to be more valuable as a PR tonight. QUOTE(chisoxdavid @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 02:39 AM) I dont know about that one. I hate to play the race card but Anderson got away with that because he is *cough white cough* Yep, and Mackowiak's not.

Pods half-assing it down the line. I've seen more of that from this team in the last two weeks than I did all of last year.

QUOTE(stretchstretch @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 02:37 AM) We can all complain about pitching nonstop, but our "most powerful offense in baseball" continues not to return any pressure whatsover on opposing team's pitching. 1,2 or 3 runs max in nine innings is just not going to get it done. Minny gave up six runs and still won by 7, plain and simple!!! We have way too many guys hitting over three hundred and too many HRs to be losing games every time we give up 5 runs............................ The Sox offense carried this team for an entire half of the season. Isn't it about time our pitching picks up the offense? Literally, the only time I can remember our pitching bailing out our offense was the Garcia/Reyes game. QUOTE(BigSqwert @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 02:38 AM) Showalter trying to burn his pen in the first game of the series. or just win

QUOTE(Felix @ Jul 22, 2006 -> 02:33 AM) Mack would have had that You can only imagine what the outcry on here would have been if Mackowiak did that same thing. The second most disappointing thing this season, besides our starting pitching, has been our outfield defense.

Ha...this is freaking pathetic. Ozzie's leaving Buehrle out there to have another game of 7 or 8 runs allowed. Thanks Felix