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QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 05:25 PM) I find it hard to believe that Owens would be a vital part of this, or any other trade. He's not nearly as good as some people seem to think he is. I guess he was almost the starting CF and ROY for us, though. I can't believe someone actually thought that. Anyone who's described as a lesser hitting Willie Harris = superstar in my book.

In order to get Zito, I'm sure guys like Fields and Broadway were the prospects involved. You're not getting Zito for Garcia and Owens, etc.

This ought to be fun if Pods reaches base. I'm pretty sure Chen picked him off twice in a game last year. If Ozzie wants to get Mackowiak playing time, put him in LF then!

ESPN just said that Thome is out of the lineup today.

Riske for 2 innings tomorrow, according to Ozzie.

QUOTE(Jake @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 01:49 AM) You guys are nuts about Dye's arm. Almost every game is somehow changed because runners won't advance on Dye. There's a lot time where no one could throw out the baserunner and they still don't advance. Dye is really a gamechanger in RF, just because of how much they respect his arm and don't give him opportunities to throw runners out. Yeah, he's done just an amazing job at limiting runners from going from 1st to 3rd or scoring on a single from 2nd base lately.....not.

A win is a win.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 12:35 AM) Your nuts, our outfield defense is still >>> the Angels every day of the week and twice on Sundays (w/Mack). With Anderson its good (Dye is average to above avg, BA is above avg, Pods is one of the worse in the game). How is it better than the Angels? We'd have the worst LF and CF defensively in baseball if Mack's in CF. I also guess I view Dye's defense differently than you. I'm not sure if he's hurt, but he seems extremely slow out there in the last 30-40 games. Vlad sucks on defense, but at least teams respect his arm and don't always try to take the extra base on him. Doesn't Juan Rivera have a terrific arm? You see the Angels more than I do though, so I respect your opinion.

QUOTE(Frankensteiner @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 12:28 AM) I don't expect us to rack up our win total against good teams. Play .500 ball against them, stay competitive. 3-12 is not competitive. Of course it's bad. It was a terrible stretch for us. However, there's nothing we can do about it now. Trust me, I'm not Mr. Sunshine. However, it seems some people are more pissed that we won 13-11 than if we would have lost 2-1.

QUOTE(iguchi=dank @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 12:26 AM) I cannot agree with you more than right now Especially coming from someone who gave up in the 2nd inning.

QUOTE(Frankensteiner @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 12:25 AM) Actually, I said this team needs to prove itself against good teams earlier in the week (even if they swept the O's & Royals). We're not really playing well, imo, the O's are just playing worse. Sure, we're not playing very well. However, if we have to count on beating the top teams to rack up our win total, we're going to be screwed. Every one of these wins counts right now.

QUOTE(TitoMB345 @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 12:25 AM) I feel bad for the offense. They FINALLY light something up, and they still can't breathe. God DAMN our pitching is in the spiffter right now, worst in the entire league. 13 runs and we squeek out with a win. fishing christ. We won! Stop it.

YES!!! It wasn't pretty, but after watching four hours of this, thankfully it was a win.

Wow....where was that?

QUOTE(Frankensteiner @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 12:21 AM) I think already might be their worst win on the season, if there is such a thing. A win's a win...who cares. 2 days ago, you wouldn't have said this.

YES!!

It's a 3 run game....MORA'S RUN DOESN'T MATTER!

Why is Iguchi covering 2nd base? That's so stupid. This is some terrible IQ baseball we're seeing.

If the Sox were to lose this, it would be their worst loss of the season.

Bobby without his good fastball so far. QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 12:18 AM) I don't have a good feeling about this, prove me wrong Jenks. Prove me wrong. I'll be shocked if he gets the first two guys out.

In a very similar situation against the Orioles this year, Jenks struggled against the hitters he's going to face this inning.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 12:16 AM) Carl walked 42 times last year... ...Jim Thome had 42 walks on June 1st. Well done

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 12:15 AM) Anything which prevents Ozzie from starting Mack in CF is a good thing. An outfield of Mack/Anderson/Dye would be our best in terms of offense and defense.

Some bad luck on that vicious rocket by Dye. It's ok though, we had two bloopers benefit us that inning. QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 12:14 AM) Why can't Mackowiak get at least a few starts out in LF this year? Just see how it works out. He can't POSSIBLY do worse than Pods does. Mackowiak is better in every single possible aspect right now.

QUOTE(WHarris1 @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 12:13 AM) Thome hitless yet 4 runs scored. Are you saying that Carl Everett could have never done that? Tigers up 6-0.