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QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 07:21 PM) He's a free agent after next year and will likely test the market for his final contract. He's not worth Anderson and McCarthy. I didn't know he only had one year left. Of course, I wouldn't do that deal then.

QUOTE(CWSOX45 @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 07:38 PM) I blame Ozzie, how many of us saw this coming? As a manager u have to know what your players are capable of and not capable of, Ozzie did another terrible job today letting Vazquez even start the 6th inning.... fishin unreal... The worst thing to happen to this team this season was the Vazquez trade.

QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 07:37 PM) He won't go inside on lefthanded hitters either. He has a young hitter up there in Fahey with two strikes and he throws one out over the outer half. It's what we talked about yesterday. He really needs to learn another pitch, if not two more pitches. I still think starting the inning would do wonders for him.

QUOTE(Brian @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 07:36 PM) Just humorous just how much like clockwork it is. 6th inning he implodes. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me, fool me three times? ....punch someone in the face?

QUOTE(That funky motion @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 07:36 PM) How about some blame for some poor defence. Every game in this series the starting pitcher has had to get 4 outs in an inning. What was wrong with the defense that inning?

Our bottom of the order looks really tough today.

QUOTE(Kalapse @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 07:34 PM) Who knows how many runs Javy gives up if he's left in there, you can't leave him in to get killed, he has a history of completely imploding in the 6th, he should have been pulled before immediately following the HR. There's no way anyone can say it hasn't become a mental issue with him now. It's been almost the exact same situation the last three starts, and the same thing has happened.

Credepopsitup.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 07:33 PM) Great job Neal. At least Vazquez was decent. Wow...I guess I expect more out of a high-priced pitcher than 5.1-5 ER.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 07:32 PM) So glad he went to the bullpen. And no blame for Vazquez?

QUOTE(JimH @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 07:32 PM) Let me join the sarcasm parade here ... great job by Cotts huh? The book is out on him...jump on the fastball, and don't worry about anything else. You can tell that Markakis was sitting on that fastball.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 07:31 PM) Well there is the usual Javy Vazquez 5 runs by 6 innings that we are used to seeing. Nice job Cotts. It's amazing that the same thing happened that we've all complained about recently. I can't wait to hear Ozzie's excuses this time.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 07:30 PM) Fish it. I'm gone. You guys enjoy the rest of the game. I've had enough of you people for one day. A home run is a home run...period.

The good news is Vazquez is now in line to get his 100th loss of his career. Ozzie leaving him in to possibly get the loss goes against the way he's managed ever since he's got here. I really would love to know why he manages Vazquez different than everyone else.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 07:29 PM) Well, I can see why he was hesitant to go to the bullpen. Neal sucks for a second straight day. Cotts has allowed one of the two batters he's faced to reach. That's about the same rate for all of our starters recently.

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 07:28 PM) Oh hell. That's a routine flyball. It doesn't reflect on Javy's pitching ability at all. I hope this is sarcasm. If not, we might as well give Gload's grand slam back.

Another situation where Ozzie puts his relievers in a terrible spot by not just letting them start the inning. He's done this about 20 times in the last month and a half.

And there goes the lead. Can we trade Vazquez for no one?

QUOTE(YASNY @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 07:26 PM) Yeah. That 318 foot homer was really crushed. Who cares...it was a homer. The guy has PROVEN this season that the 3rd time through the order, and after 75 pitches, he's an absolute liability.

Does anyone make a 2 run lead seem smaller than Vazquez?

Good job Ozzie...leave Vazquez in long enough to possibly get the loss.

Don't you just love thought that we have Cotts warming up, and Ozzie let Vazquez start the inning with 2 of the first 3 batters being lefty?

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 07:22 PM) Now Mr. 6th inning just plunked someone. How many fishing times does it have to happen before ozzie figures it out. I still blame whoever put on that golf outing in Venezuela during the offseason.

Well, he'll be on second soon.

QUOTE(tealeafreaderii @ Jul 30, 2006 -> 07:18 PM) Really? At the thesis defense I've been to, the profs have been hard ashes about the students being able to back up their numbers with facts... Santana has 2.14 is era over the past three years against the sox... Mainly due to 2005 when he dominated the sox and had a sub 1 era in about 40 innings. I didn't say Santana's career numbers. I said in his recent outings (meaning his last 10 starts or so). We destroyed him early on about three years ago, when they thought he had some arm issues. We ended up beating him like 16-7 in a game.