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QUOTE(nitetrain8601 @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 07:11 AM) Well no. Ozzie had El Duque starting this year if he was with us. That was just Ozzie being respectful to the veteran. No one really believed that statement by Ozzie.

QUOTE(hitlesswonder @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 07:11 AM) So where do you think he will start? I'm thinking maybe Tampa Bay or Cincinnati. I'm thinking that Garland will be on another team's roster by the beginning of 2006.

There's no way McCarthy starts next season in AAA.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 06:29 AM) Ya, with the Yanks (or did he not pitch when the Yanks were in the playoffs?) I know he pitched and got bombed in Game 7 of the ALCS.

QUOTE(sircaffey @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 06:24 AM) BMac starting in AAA full-time or filling the last spot in the Sox bullpen? McCarthy has nothing left to prove in the minors.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 06:18 AM) It better not include Cotts. I trust Williams is a sane man, and those requests earlier were before Chris Young was included. Actually, the deals had Young and Cotts rumored to be in it.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 06:18 AM) Well one thing we can all agree on: There is never a boring day with Kenny at the helm. Well, besides for the trade deadline when all he got us was G. Blum. What a waste he was.

Quick note: there were rumblings earlier that Arizona was trying to get Cotts included in the deal. Please don't do that KW!

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 06:13 AM) My ass it's under those conditions. If we're giving up Duque, Young, AND a major league reliever for Vazquez that cash figure better represent a sizable portion of the contract. Or a stud prospect of theirs better be included. f*** this overpaying s***. I'm tired of it. If we're trading Garland, and Blalock (for example) is what we receive, one of their stud pitching prospects are going to be included. I don't care if he's a FA next season. Texas can remain in the perpetual pitching rut unless they accept those conditions. Flash...other GMs love to trade with KW cause they know he'll overpay. Looking at what Arizona has tried to get for Vazquez, I have a feeling KW is going to overpay to get Javier.

QUOTE(SoxFan562004 @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 06:12 AM) lol, there was a picture of Ozzie and JV dropping off some charity goods Yeah, I saw that earlier in the day, which was why I said this.

Maybe someone should try to find a picture of Ozzie and Abreu golfing together last week?

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 06:09 AM) Do you want to get killed? This is a threat. What? Patterson's fast, can play center field, and bats lefty. Sounds like a perfect fit to me. AND IF ANYONE'S TAKING ME SERIOUS, SHAME ON THEM!

QUOTE(spiderman @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 06:08 AM) Garland for Abreu ? Highly unlikely, I'd think.... Why is everyone so quick to say the White Sox aren't going to keep Garland/Contreras ? ? ? KW has said over and over that pitching is what this team is built upon, and they have already made 2 moves to upgrade the offense. For me, it was the quotes by KW where he told those guys they better get serious about signing an extension.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 06:07 AM) They wouldn't. The Sox have zero chips for Crawford. Honestly we won't be able to deal with a small market team at this point (after dealing Young, the Sox aren't going to have the type of prospects to give up for a team not looking to add payroll). cough cough Blalock cough cough

How about Garland for Corey Patterson?

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 06:04 AM) Its too bad Edmonds isn't a few years younger cause I'd suggest a deal for him (with one of the starters) cause you know the Cards are looking for pitching. Also, just want to say, doesn't this still leave open the possibility of a Garland for Abreu deal or something along those lines as well (if the Sox wanted to get crazy with payroll). Plus considering they are getting Duque off the books, it wouldn't be a huge increase in Abreu (just saying this name cause everyone's been talking about him over the off-season). Considering that KW is managing like he's in charge of an XBox baseball team, who the hell knows what will happen next. Man, remember when the Trade Winds were exciting during the regular season trade deadline? I miss those days....it's boring now

I have a feeling that last year's success and increase in attendance has made JR and KW think more about maintaining the success in the immediate future, and not really worry about the distant future. If that means payrolls around 90 million, then I'm not too worried. Come on, since when are we concerned about trading prospects? We're not exactly the greatest developers of talent.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 05:58 AM) I'm not a huge fan of Adam Dunn as people know, but most importantly I don't want Scotty in center. I agree about the defense, which makes me think the Dunn trade won't happen. Crawford and Blalock are better fits.

As long as that reliever isn't Cotts or Jenks, I don't really care who it will be.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 05:55 AM) Would love it, meh, please no. Please no to Dunn? I think you'd warm up to him when he walks over 100 times, hits over 40 homers, and does so for the next 10 years. I'd rather have Dunn than Crawford on my team, but I wouldn't complain about either.

What's the estimated time on a Phil Rogers article showing up on chicagosports.com stating that a deal is close? He always seems to have an article discussing the possibility of the particular deal on the day it happens.

So how many times over the next couple of days will we hear the names Carl Crawford, Hank Blalock, and might I add, Adam Dunn?

Dear Chris Young: Please grow up and become a Cubs Killer! Thanks, Fathom

Rotoworld's already bashing the trade from the Sox point of view. If this trade is legit, I'm thrilled to get rid of Duque, who easily had the worst contract on the team.

QUOTE(SHAFTR @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 05:47 AM) Blalocks 2005 Away splits .231 AVG / .276 OBP / .335 SLG = .611 OPS Blalocks 2002-2004 Away Splits .243 AVG / .300 OBP / .407 SLG = .707 OPS Lucky for us then, the Cell is a great hitter's park. Also, he's locked up for more years than Crede will be, which obviously seems like a big key for KW.