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We could possibly be eliminated from the playoffs before the first game of the Cleveland series.

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Sep 23, 2005 -> 03:50 AM) I feel like turning off Palehose for the night so I don't VOMIT. Well said

QUOTE(kapkomet @ Sep 23, 2005 -> 03:26 AM) I'll tell you fathom, publicly, right here and right now. Every time you bash this team, and say they are not going to make the playoffs, you turn around and say "please don't question how much I root for the Sox". f*** that. You know, if you did, you'd say something positive once in a while. 95% of your posts are about what is wrong... but we're supposed to believe that you're all Sox, all the time? I have trouble with that, and I know others do, which is what gets us into these conversations. I *WILL* question you based on your history here. Sorry, but that's the truth, and I'm just calling it as I see it. When good things happen, I say "way to go, etc." If this was soxcheerleading.com, I'd take on a different tone. Since it's soxtalk.com, I felt like I could post how I feel about things. I've made no secret all year that I hate Ozzie, and didn't think that this season was going to end up well.

I thought we'd lose this game, but once you have the opportunities we had to win this game, it became an awful loss. A win over Johan at this time of the season would have been huge. At this time of the season, you need to win games, no matter how ugly the win is.

There's a big difference, at least for me personally, between saying "this team f***ing sucks" and "f*** this team". I can safely say that everyone, including the most postive posters, this we suck right now. But if you say f*** this team, be prepared to be told to get out and stay out.

QUOTE(Felix @ Sep 23, 2005 -> 03:26 AM) It is f***ing true, whether you believe it or not. Well, then it will be the first 90 plus win season to devastate a fan base and set the organization back a few years possibly.

QUOTE(Felix @ Sep 23, 2005 -> 03:29 AM) I'll agree with the 4 besides Ozzie. You think Ozzie has handled the pressure well?

This team has heart, but very average talent that has an awful lot of players slumping. I'm not too sure that a lot of our players can handle the pressure. The Sox members I would say have been extremely disappointing are Ozzie, Everett, Dye, Buehrle, and Garcia.

QUOTE(redandwhite @ Sep 23, 2005 -> 03:24 AM) Fathom sucks... sorry buddy, just taking advantage of being on that other side for a change.

QUOTE(qwerty @ Sep 23, 2005 -> 03:19 AM) Fathom is the pessimist and felix is the optimist. It's good to see that fathom has a new sparring partner now that rowad44 is gone. Rowand44 and I were getting along well. I have no problem with the optimistic posters on this site AT ALL! I just feel like I'm getting picked on a little too much now because of the punching bag syndrome. But don't worry, I'm not like Ozzie. I won't b**** about it in the paper.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Sep 23, 2005 -> 03:17 AM) You said people shouldn't be upset b/c of all the choke talk, b/c the team deserves it. I don't know how that's going to make anyone feel better. Some people like this team and actually take some pride in it. I said that they shouldn't take that type of talk so personally. You'd think they were afraid that their families were going to get ripped in the press, etc. Please don't question how much I root for the Sox.

QUOTE(SnB @ Sep 23, 2005 -> 03:16 AM) Dear fathom, 2.5 months ago or so i told you to lighten up, there is no way this team doesn't make the playoffs. I apologize. Don't apologize, I'm as pissed as anyone. I wish like hell that I'm wrong. You won't see me on hear saying "I told you so". We're still in this f***ing thing, no matter how painful these games have become. I couldn't be more sincere about the bottom line of my signature.

QUOTE(Jordan4life_2005 @ Sep 23, 2005 -> 03:15 AM) LMAO. Fathom, why does everybody get mad at you? There's like 30 other people in here, including me, dissing this team to hell. Yet, it all comes back to you. Especially when I was trying to take a difference stance on things.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Sep 23, 2005 -> 03:15 AM) I'm quite cool. Then why jump all over a post that had the best of intentions? I know most of my posts should probably piss people off, but that's not one I felt should have been jumped on.

QUOTE(redandwhite @ Sep 23, 2005 -> 03:14 AM) has the trade deadline passed? are there any good free agents? Yeah, Mark Bellhorn

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Sep 23, 2005 -> 03:12 AM) This is PHT, I didn't know we had to discuss what's going on in our personal lives too. Of course people are going to get upset. Does anything in this world satisfy you? The Sox obviously don't, and now the fans don't cheer to the fathom standard. Holy s***!!! Lighten up, I was trying to actually be positive that maybe they should just step away from the ledge and realize this isn't worth going over the ledge about.

QUOTE(Soxfest @ Sep 23, 2005 -> 03:10 AM) This is getting terrible! GETTING?

QUOTE(DonkeyKongerko @ Sep 23, 2005 -> 03:09 AM) On the disabled list? I meant it more as a shot at Hawk for thinking that this offense was capable.

QUOTE(greasywheels121 @ Sep 23, 2005 -> 03:08 AM) We're supposed to like it and not get upset? Makes sense. No, but it's like people are more concerned about that than the health of their family, etc. The same people that are so scared about it will still be back on opening day cheering their ass off.

QUOTE(SleepyWhiteSox @ Sep 23, 2005 -> 03:05 AM) Can the blame be placed squarely on the offense tonight, or will it be another 'blame Ozzie' night? Even though Ozzie made some dumb decisions tonight (Marte and letting Everett bat in the 9th), this offense is completely to blame. It's a full organizational collapse. Hey Hawk...where would he play?

QUOTE(Yossarian @ Sep 23, 2005 -> 03:06 AM) We're going to get everyone who ever choked in the history of baseball off the hook the way we're going. Seriously, why do people get so upset about that? This team deserves every criticism they receive if they choke.

QUOTE(JimH @ Sep 23, 2005 -> 03:05 AM) Good for you, the rest of the board marches right along with you, yeah, that makes it right. Now Jenks is not getting the job done. It all started with a bad play by Aaron Rowand. Once again, the Sox make mistakes and Minnesota capitalizes. I agree with your sentiment about Rowand. He's the most overrated player on the Sox by far, and that's hard to do when you have Pods on your team.

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Sep 23, 2005 -> 03:04 AM) I rest my god damn case. Some people, and I'm not referring to JimH, would rather take out their frustrations on certain posters rather than to admit this is an epic collapse.

This Jenks guy.....don't you think we might want to stop pitching him? 3 straight games he's allowed a run.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 23, 2005 -> 03:03 AM) SON OF A b****> WE ARE GONNA LOSE THIS DIVISION. And we deserve to.