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Maybe someone should try to find a picture of Ozzie and Abreu golfing together last week?

QUOTE(SoxFan1 @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 06:09 AM) Do you want to get killed? This is a threat. What? Patterson's fast, can play center field, and bats lefty. Sounds like a perfect fit to me. AND IF ANYONE'S TAKING ME SERIOUS, SHAME ON THEM!

QUOTE(spiderman @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 06:08 AM) Garland for Abreu ? Highly unlikely, I'd think.... Why is everyone so quick to say the White Sox aren't going to keep Garland/Contreras ? ? ? KW has said over and over that pitching is what this team is built upon, and they have already made 2 moves to upgrade the offense. For me, it was the quotes by KW where he told those guys they better get serious about signing an extension.

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 06:07 AM) They wouldn't. The Sox have zero chips for Crawford. Honestly we won't be able to deal with a small market team at this point (after dealing Young, the Sox aren't going to have the type of prospects to give up for a team not looking to add payroll). cough cough Blalock cough cough

How about Garland for Corey Patterson?

QUOTE(Chisoxfn @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 06:04 AM) Its too bad Edmonds isn't a few years younger cause I'd suggest a deal for him (with one of the starters) cause you know the Cards are looking for pitching. Also, just want to say, doesn't this still leave open the possibility of a Garland for Abreu deal or something along those lines as well (if the Sox wanted to get crazy with payroll). Plus considering they are getting Duque off the books, it wouldn't be a huge increase in Abreu (just saying this name cause everyone's been talking about him over the off-season). Considering that KW is managing like he's in charge of an XBox baseball team, who the hell knows what will happen next. Man, remember when the Trade Winds were exciting during the regular season trade deadline? I miss those days....it's boring now

I have a feeling that last year's success and increase in attendance has made JR and KW think more about maintaining the success in the immediate future, and not really worry about the distant future. If that means payrolls around 90 million, then I'm not too worried. Come on, since when are we concerned about trading prospects? We're not exactly the greatest developers of talent.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 05:58 AM) I'm not a huge fan of Adam Dunn as people know, but most importantly I don't want Scotty in center. I agree about the defense, which makes me think the Dunn trade won't happen. Crawford and Blalock are better fits.

As long as that reliever isn't Cotts or Jenks, I don't really care who it will be.

QUOTE(Rowand44 @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 05:55 AM) Would love it, meh, please no. Please no to Dunn? I think you'd warm up to him when he walks over 100 times, hits over 40 homers, and does so for the next 10 years. I'd rather have Dunn than Crawford on my team, but I wouldn't complain about either.

What's the estimated time on a Phil Rogers article showing up on chicagosports.com stating that a deal is close? He always seems to have an article discussing the possibility of the particular deal on the day it happens.

So how many times over the next couple of days will we hear the names Carl Crawford, Hank Blalock, and might I add, Adam Dunn?

Dear Chris Young: Please grow up and become a Cubs Killer! Thanks, Fathom

Rotoworld's already bashing the trade from the Sox point of view. If this trade is legit, I'm thrilled to get rid of Duque, who easily had the worst contract on the team.

QUOTE(SHAFTR @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 05:47 AM) Blalocks 2005 Away splits .231 AVG / .276 OBP / .335 SLG = .611 OPS Blalocks 2002-2004 Away Splits .243 AVG / .300 OBP / .407 SLG = .707 OPS Lucky for us then, the Cell is a great hitter's park. Also, he's locked up for more years than Crede will be, which obviously seems like a big key for KW.

As many know, I'm one of those people who always expect something bad to happen. Am I the only one who thinks that it's still likely this is just the same info from sportsline, and it still could include Garland?

Now, KW should wait until guys like Millwood, Washburn, and Weaver sign, and use that leverage to get big time value for Garland.

QUOTE(Flash Tizzle @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 05:42 AM) You can about finalize this deal--MLB is reporting it on their main page. Goodbye Duque, Young--and soon, Garland. It basically says the deal's going to be announced on Wednesday.

Even though, as we said, people hate Blalock here, I would still take him in a heartbeat over Joe Crede.

I know people dislike him cause he sucked last year, but it wouldn't shock me at all to see KW try and use Garland as a chip to acquire Blalock. It seems as if KW doesn't trust the market right now, and he would rather just avoid the impending contract quarrels with Crede/Boras.

You don't have a 6 man rotation where 5 of the starters will likely all being making at least 7.5 million per season. There are still so many possibilities that KW can look at if they do acquire Vazquez without trading one of our main starters, but I would believe that when I see it. However, as of now, I would much rather see KW just sit back, relax, and be pleased with how this offseason went.

There's not a chance in hell we're going to trade Duque for Vazquez, and then put McCarthy in the pen. That would be one of the most expensive starting rotations in baseball. If we bring in Vazquez, you can bet your ass there'll be another trade with Garland or Contreras involved in it.

After reading that article on the official site, I think it's a matter of when, not if, either Garland or Contreras gets traded. I would put the percentage at about 95 pct likely Garland goes, and I think it will happen within the next 10 days.

QUOTE(JimH @ Dec 14, 2005 -> 02:16 AM) It has everything to do with the White Sox looking for cost certainty while maintaining an excellent pitching staff. So the pitching staff gets older, more expensive, and worse? I think that's the reason for the 25 page thread.

QUOTE(witesoxfan @ Dec 13, 2005 -> 10:29 PM) You can see why he is such a clubhouse problem at times. Or maybe it's cause he witnessed a parent get killed in front of his very eyes?