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QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Sep 17, 2005 -> 05:33 PM) He should of started this game, but our fearless leader forgot the part in his bulls*** press conference when he got hired about playing the game the right way. If 100+ pitches through 3.2 innings giving up 4 runs giving up 8 or more hits is playing the game the right way, then he should of managed the f***ing royals. they play like that all the time. This team hasn't played the game right since August 1st.

Duque's ERA is now 5.24

There's going to be a ton of Ozzie bashing around baseball and the radio today. The decision to start Duque today was worse than Manuel's decision to start Cotts against the Yankees. At least some people thought Cotts had a chance to succeed that game.

QUOTE(jphat007 @ Sep 17, 2005 -> 05:30 PM) Well if Bmac is starting the next game why is that a waste. Gives him time to get some work in today before he starts in 5 days. Because we have no clue if he will really start for Duque next time. Dusty Guillen could very well say he wants Duque's leadership during the stretch run.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Sep 17, 2005 -> 05:29 PM) Huge understatement. He must be the easiest pitcher to steal off of in baseball. No, that would be Contreras

QUOTE(sayitaintso @ Sep 17, 2005 -> 05:29 PM) But oz wants to respect his players. I think ozzie lost respect of his players quite a while ago.

Duque has just supplanted Timo as my least favorite Sox player ever!

11 recorded out, 12 base runners for Duque. On the bright side, at least his start has been so pathetic that hopefully Ozzie will look past all of Duque's "attributes", and realize that he shouldn't be close to the mound again.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Sep 17, 2005 -> 05:25 PM) If he got back a Flash Gordon baseball card he would have made an incredible deal. And we're going to have to likely trade one of our starting pitchers in order to manage his contract next year. Duque, do us all a favor, and please retire!

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Sep 17, 2005 -> 05:24 PM) Now we are going to waste McCarthy here. He should of f***ing started this game, but our fearless leader decided he needed to give a cookie to El Duque. Who's going to be the first one to get suspended for saying what everyone's thinking?

QUOTE(whitesoxmanager @ Sep 17, 2005 -> 05:23 PM) why is it that the sox radio side seems like they have the same attitude we all do? expecting the worst hoping for the best..... There's not a person in the Sox organization that thinks Duque should still be starting besides Ozzie. Also, from tidbits I've heard on the radio, there's a lot of people PISSED OFF about some of Ozzie's managing decisions.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Sep 17, 2005 -> 05:23 PM) Back in June or July they enquired. KW needed to pull the trigger, even if they gave nothing back. KW asked for Flash Gordon. That's about as absurd of offering Jon Adkins for Ray Durham.....oh wait, that happened.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 17, 2005 -> 05:22 PM) Maybe the Yankees will take him back. No I'm not kidding. No way, even they know he's done. Yankees won't be taking chances on injury prone pitchers for a while.

QUOTE(elrockinMT @ Sep 17, 2005 -> 05:21 PM) For crying out loud Ozzie what in the heck did you leave The Duckie in for? Now it's 4-0 and some unknown rookie has 3 hits including a triple and 2 rbi's against him. He is done! He's not an unknown rookie. He's one of the weakest hitters in the history of baseball. And if you think I'm joking, look at his career stats.

Not only that, I'm sure we'll completely waste McCarthy now for the next 4 or 5 innings. We're better off putting Baj, Sanders, etc in.

What a f***ing joke. Duque better not start another f***ing game for the White Sox this season.

QUOTE(Balta1701 @ Sep 17, 2005 -> 05:19 PM) It's closing in on being Duque's fault here. (And Dye's too). What happened w/Dye?

10 outs recorded, 9 base runners. Thankfully we started him today.

QUOTE(Dick Allen @ Sep 17, 2005 -> 05:18 PM) The guy is done. The fact that he is signed through next season is a real problem for the Sox. That's $5 million they could be using on someone who is actually effective. And everyone in baseball knew it.

QUOTE(3E8 @ Sep 17, 2005 -> 05:18 PM) Are Dye's eyes okay? What happened? Also, how far was Morneau's homer?

BTW, this isn't even as much Duque's fault as it is the Sox's pathetic offense.

QUOTE(Milkman delivers @ Sep 17, 2005 -> 05:16 PM) Just STFU. You'll be grateful when he tears up the postseason. I can't believe you some times. Haha, well said. I can't wait to hear Ozzie say how great he pitched today, and that he'll give him another chance. You do know McCarthy isn't Roger Clemens, don't you?

Duque has retired 9 guys, and allowed 7 base runners today.

QUOTE(southsideirish71 @ Sep 17, 2005 -> 05:13 PM) How far will Morneau hit it. Good call

I'm loving this veteran experience I've seen from Duque the last month.