Soxfest

QUOTE (southsider2k5 @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 11:30 AM) To my point... Jeff Passan ‏@JeffPassan 5m5 minutes ago Shockingly, Padres one of just five teams that haven't made a trade with deadline in 3 1/2 hours. Others: Cubs, White Sox, Twins, D'backs. Not true we got Sellers yesterday in trade.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 10:57 AM) Anything we give up for a rental when our backs are against the wall, is extremely risky. Belton Bill Melton was on yesterday and he had some interesting points (later on he kind of went back on them though, but I'll ignore that for the purpose of this post). Bottom line, he said that he hopes Kenny and Rick execute on whatever they planned to do prior to the streak happening. If they thought they had the goods to win, then do it, if not, then do that, but you shouldn't necessarily let 1.5 weeks of play impact your decisions for the rest of the season. I am actually giving Bill Melton more credit cause he didn't quite say it like that, but it was his point. It is also why I believe it is imperative for the club, if it is going to buy, to buy someone who will be here for the long haul (unless the rental is so cheap it is absurd not to do it, such as Beck for Cespedes or something like that). We should be taking a quasi Ranger mentality (or almost like a 2004 mentality when we acquired Contreras) and while the move might help us contend this year, the goal is for this to make us a better team in 2016 & 2017. With that in mind, when it comes to Shark, Hahn and Kenny have a ton of leverage right now. Dodgers still need that upgrade (and the list of pitchers like Shark is small and some rivals, including the Giants have upgraded). Angels have to also be interested in another pitcher (especially given the moves the Astros just made) and I presume the Yanks would be listening as well. I'm not saying I'm ready to sell as I want to buy and have said I want to buy (but potentially do a controlled sell as well). Given where the market is, if the Sox get the right offer, I don't blame them for selling Shark while still buying a bat elsewhere. I also am okay with them buying a bat and going for this thing, but please, please, do not buy a rental or make a bunch of moves ignoring our future. And also, please do not stand pat. This team, without another bat, has very low odds at fending things off, and at that point, given the leverage I presume we have with Shark, we'd be better off moving Shark, getting some talent who could help us in 2016 & 2017, while giving Erik Johnson and maybe even Montas some time in the bigs to see what we have in them. We can always then make another push to sign Shark in the off-season (if that is the move we want to make). Got a bad feeling keeping Shark and they get nobody and fade away for good by mid August.

QUOTE (Chisoxfn @ Jul 31, 2015 -> 10:58 AM) IF their is truth to this, I just shake my head. Overloaded with what. Garcia sucks and LaRoche has not been productive. What overload are we talking about? An overload of crap? Looks like Sox not interested in a upgrade, they thinks scraps they have now are playoff worthy.

I do not dislike Avi, but Sox brass to say he would be a 30/30 guy was a gross overstatement. I have no faith in them as talent evaluators.

QUOTE (Jose Abreu @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 10:02 PM) Which is what Upton/Cespedes would help. The fact that we're under .500 is irrelevant when we're what, 2.5, 3 games out of a playoff spot? No team under .500 is making the playoffs it is very relevant.

Lets get to .500 and go from there.............Sox brass in a very tough spot tonight, should be interesting to see.

QUOTE (SouthSideSale @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 09:40 PM) Why we brought him up is beyond me. He sucks Why he keeps getting chances is hard to see.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 09:26 PM) If that contract cost the Sox the chance to get better players, then I'll raise my hand and say I care about his contract. 14.5 million wasted.

QUOTE (greg775 @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 09:15 PM) I've noticed you really despise Danks. But in five of the last 10 outings that he's excelled in, you are silent when I brag about my boy, Danks. Don't be a Danks hater! He will prove u wrong ultimately. He is horrid he has yet to prove anyone wrong.

I hope Sox come back home and do not play like crap again.

Another guy sets his career high in K's.

QUOTE (Frank_Thomas35 @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 09:04 PM) The game isn't even over and we've been tearing the cover off the ball. Even if we do lose we had a great road trip that turned the season around in a way. A lot of positives, plus we may add a bat. We all freak out over every dip in the coaster, there's 69 games left. Well do our share of losing no matter what so take the good with the bad and vice versa. We just have to stay consistent. 62 games left

QUOTE (RockRaines @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 09:03 PM) I'm guessing sale with DL stint. Forearm soreness If Sale is really hurt then it is 100% sell.

Sorry but a sub .500 team at trade deadline should be a seller.

.500 not to be really disappointed in the ace tonight.

QUOTE (fathom @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 08:53 PM) Sale pitching like he's facing the Twins. Just a terrible start for him. Needed a big game and not getting it tonight.

Not good.

LaDunn is a mojo killer.

.500 so hard for this team

I thought Beckman was terrible today.

What a move

QUOTE (bmags @ Jul 30, 2015 -> 01:59 PM) You say Hahn, but you mean KW i think. He should

Thought Dodgers would get him.

Nothing but will be told how hard they tried.

If Sox keep Shark then they better upgrade.