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I don't think so . Narvaez was one of our decent OBP guys, Zavala isn't at all. But probably better with the glove . Pitchers like him , probably didn't like Narvaez.

Saving the big bucks for big fish and maybe others, starting pitching outfielders. Hahn did say there would be better defense if he had to pick one thing that would get better in 2019.

He was in AAA thats pretty close to ready. Although I would agree he probably needs more Ab's and his OBP was terrible.

We found him !

Could also mean maybe the Sox go after Realmuto

Doesn't necessarily mean Grandal. Can always go with Castillo and Zavala.

Give Fathom credit for finding the rumor . He mentioned it and it was discussed in another thread.

Whoah ! Ha all of a sudden we are flush with catchers to let 2 of them go.

Mets to the Mariners rescue. Seattle shouldn't get the better part of this deal. You either let them rot with the older Cano or you come away the clear winner in the trade. Cano doesn't want to play anywhere but NY . Seattle is desperate here, Mets need more like Mallex Smith or someone else.

Seems right though I think the Sox find a way to keep Avi unless some other team is salivating to sign him. Hold onto him until you can get a guy like Brantley to replace him. Brantley is sort of like what Avi could have been, Trouble is Brantley gets injured a lot too.

That's why I'm skeptical. There's no reason to give up prospects in our top 30 especially if its the 1st trade of the off season. If its for Ryan Cordell , Delmonico, Tilson, Fulmer , Avi or one of the young relievers sure pull the trigger.

Color me skeptical.

What I said is I want the Sox to keep more talented players over the less talented. I said want the Sox to K less. i said could care less if Avi is non tendered. I said I want more guys to hit .330 . If you are confused that's on you. I think everyone here would agree with everything I said.

Lol you are unbelievable. I got snippy because you twisted what I said into something about Avi's 2018 season which I never mentioned. I don't think it's impossible to want one more talented player over those less talented and yes I want the whole team including Avi to K less. Why do I have to limit my choices to just those 2 ? I can want both .Did you become God all of a sudden saying I can only have one of those choices ?

Ergo I implied we have a team full of high K guys with low batting averages and I could care less if Avi is non tendered.i Prefer he'd stay because he has more talent than Delmoncio ,Cordell and a host of others we could get rid of just as easily as Avi ,who don't have the talent or upside of Avi and are close to the same age. I don't have an agenda I just don't see much of a reason for getting rid of a talented player when most of those he is currently competing are less talented. Pretty simple. Tender him and if you sign above replacement guys in the OF then send him packing and still owe him very little.

Who said anything about Avi's 2018 ? All I said was I wish we had more guys who put the ball in play enough to hit .330 so we can have many more arguments about inflated BABIP's. Are you having problems with reading comprehension lately ?

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I wish we had a few other guys who actually put the ball in play more often. I'd like to see more guys hit .330 and have a lot more arguments about how lucky they were.

We will find out very soon what the Sox have in mind for Avi. I know the arguments against Avi and for him. Hell, I'm the one usually sticking up for the guy. I've thought he has JD Martinez potential. When he was hot last year he was amazing. You just see the potential in bursts. I was hoping this off season he would work with the same guys that fixed JD Martinez swing but I doubt that's happening. I know if he is non tendered someone will sign him and take the chance we didn't , hoping for one season where he can put it all together. Just seems sort of wasteful to toss aside one of the most talented guys we have.

Hey Sox have to do business the same as other teams . It's standard practice now for opt outs. You either include them or get left in the dust. Why anyone would think the Sox won't do is antiquated thinking.

Maybe not imperative but could make a difference in the millions of dollars. Mariners went from $450M over 10 years to $2 billion over 17 years. That's over 4 times the money with less than 2 times the years.

Keep on believing that if you want to. Besides it won't be 2 years this will be the 3rd year of the rebuild where we should need to see significant progress on building a future team . I truly believe you're not giving anything Hahn has said about spending money when the right free agents are available any credit whatsoever. Maybe my math is different from yours and apparently I am not the only one doing the math this way.

All we can do is hope a better team brings in higher ratings. Higher ratings mean higher advertising revenue. Bad team, lower viewership equals less advertisers and less money. Higher ratings equal more viewers for advertisers fighting for space during the telecast thus leading to higher advertising contracts. That's as simply as I can put it. Not sure we can draw a correlation to other teams. I'd just say that's Ratings 101. The most glaring example of this is how much advertisers pay for Superbowl ads which gets extremely high ratings.

Is it really so hard to believe that ramping up right before the TV contract is due wasn't part of the plan all along? To go into a rebuild without that in mind would be pretty shortsighted. Maybe you just aren't giving the Sox front office enough credit while proselytizing what you personally think was the plan all along.