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I don't get the love affair about having guys ready for the next good Sox team. No one knows when that will be. By you're argument if Eder is struggling in 1.5 years on a bad Sox team they should trade him for another injured prospect ? It's fine you like Eder but he may not be good enough and if he is good enough there's no guarantee that the Sox will be a good team in his tenure with them. He'll be 30 in 5 years. When do you expect the Sox to be above .500 again ? You know you can still be a bad team with plenty of good players on it. Look at the Angels with multiple years of having Ohtani and Trout. Those 2 are superstars and they had other good players but to be a good team you need 20 good players and depth behind those 20. Your MLB team isn't going to get good any time soon trading 27 year old MLB talent for 24 year old injured minor league talent very often.

If the Sox had got any takers for Eloy it might have made getting Busch a possibility. Easy to pine for him now that he's doing good when he was an older prospect who had shown very little defensive and offensively in his brief trials with the Dodgers.

Mainly because he was a DH and 1st baseman and the Sox have team full of them

I saw him drop a routine throw to 1st a couple days ago

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Of course but he's probably started every game in LF against LHP too.

I doubt he wouldve taken a MILB contract 3 months ago.

Benintendi can sit more instead of being a fixture in LF every freaking day.

I wouldnt say he sucks. A guy has to get some ABs under his belt. Hes got a great arm , just needed some work on his fundamentals on defense. His bat has played anywhere hes been even though he had to be rusty when he first got to the states. AT the highest levels his lack of consistent AB's against high level pitching has been apparent.

What does this even mean ? Are you just piling on now to get a chuckle ? What should've been done that wasn't done the next day? Are you suggesting Kopech was supposed to pitch the day after he threw 2.0 innings ? He was unavailable, Leasure was unavailable, Brebbia was injured. Wlison was pitching in his second consecutive game and 4th in the last 6 and they luckily got a 7 pitch inning out of him . I'm just as upset as anyone that the team is filled with has beens and never was'. But they suck and their best relief pitchers weren't available. Things change from day to day, that's how pitching worksnot only in the starting rotation but also in the BP. Expect wins perhaps weekly.

Except that he never came close to actually being on the Chicago White Sox. I do remember reading he was distraught when he heard that he was traded.

Finally an honest fan who doesn't act like he knows everything and didn't put words in anyone's mouth. West Eddy is just saying it's pretty subjective and it's hard to argue either way when we basically know nothing and it's not like Getz was in charge very long . How many years was it and how many succeedes can you expect in that time frame and how does that compare to other teams ?Plus there's the whole definition of what should be counted as a success. There's just so many people involved in the scouting ,drafting and development of hundreds of players and then you have the biggest obstacle of all (JR) looming over everything that has always hurt the Sox development of any youths. I always bring up the Dominican Republic, the best Latin America country to get prospects in the last 50 years . Why is baseball filled with DR stars and the Sox have never had one ? It's all on JR because he refused to play the game in the DR that all the other clubs in MLB were playing. We'll never know if he was sincere about that the process being too shady or íf it was just another way to say I'm not spending money there. It still continues to this day. And there always reports about lack of personnel and equipment to keep up with the latest tech in all phases of the organization . For JR the all encompassing player development dept. is an easy area to cut funds that escapes the attention of the media and thus the fans.

JR would have to pay for Ellipses in the dugout and redesign the dugout so its not likely but it would be innovative.

I actually think that's a jab at JR. For anyone wanting Getz fired this quote might piss JR off enough to do it. Of course it would be after Getz contract runs out.

Maybe there shouldn't be a bench in the dugout just treadmills* and modern stationary bikes. *Treadmills may be too dangerous for some our players.

Ok .If that's the case it's not very independent thinking.Why be an echo chamber for Getz ?

Maybr it's supposed to be funny ? Some people just have strange internet personalities. It might be his way of protesting how much he despises the Sox now.🤷‍♂️

Ok but u didn't say banking on Vaughn hasn't exactly been a developmental win either.How many more MLB plate appearances does Vaughn have compared to Sheets ? Vaughn's a top 5 pick in the draft and Sheets a 2nd round pick. Neither has distinguished themselves in any way. At this point I'll lean towards a hot hitter in a sea of bats with holes in them . No one's going all in on anybody , just leaning and happy to see some positive.

Worst player of all time in 11 games ?🤣 You can't make this s%*# up . Did this turn into a football season ?

So basically we're at the point that every Sox player is bad and we cannot hope for any type of development that is not linear ? Meh I'll keep hoping against the odds that they find some quality MLB players just by holding onto some guys. It may haved worked in some cases like Semien and Tatis, Jr. or would they have withered on the vine ?

And I usually try to back up what I say with stats when the guys arguing against you don't take into account much of anything except whats in front of their noses. I actually looked up each relief pitchers game logs over the past week or so and in Wilson's case how he's been used in his career. Then once i also remembered Brebbria was injured I couldnt remember if they brought up a pitcher so I looked at the transactions and saw Shuster was brought up. The game he pitched was one of the few games I didnt watch this year.

I guess we're still waiting to know when Clevinger will make a start. I suppose he may get a minor league game or 2 once they feel he's ready. But in the mean time with the off day today maybe they reset the rotation and they're all on normal rest now ?

Because of the off day this thread has yet to be banished to the Sox archives. I do like discussing the game sometimes but its difficult when you're discussing with an angry fan base and just I don't want to be another sheep mindlessly playing follow the leader. I'm not a contrarian or a troll or water carrier. i Just think I see what other fans ignore. It's just too easy to say a guy is a bad manager or bad exectuive when their whole position or station was by being a part of Reinsdorf's Peter Principle.

Right which was what I thought and why I suggested sending Shuster back down after his 1 appearance. But it didnt happen I guess because today's an off day so the BP gets some much needed rest. They did what they could yesterday but if the game went any longer Shaw just would've had to pitch another inning.